Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula (Page 4) (Top voted first)
Updatedis Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.
Caggor, it makes me sad & angry to read your post esp as there was one similiar a few months back.... I dont understand what doctors in the US are thinking!! why are they not listening to their patients, esp ones that are at this point because they cant endure the pain any longer..,..btw, i do understand...the disease i have has no cure or treatment beyond pain relief & before i decided to go onto this medication the pain was so bad i was contemplating my choices. It took a while to get the doseage to the point it was effective also but ive beennstable for about 4yrs now. All i can suggest is try the ideas Bobby mentioned (if you havent already) & i wish so badly someone will help you. Take care
Thats horrific Jeanie, id be going to my nearest MP & & discussing it with them.....if that gets you nowhere go higher up the political scale..... Also id be moving away from the area you live in, i know for a fact i could't cope with the pain i have without strong analgesia.....i dont understand how doctors can be so callous they are supposed to help not hurt their patients.
Hello Jeannie,
I'm so sorry to hear that . I'm having anxiety just contemplating myself in this position . What area do U live in, just so I can put my mind at rest... Do U see a pain management dr ? Oftentimes they will help u. It doesn't make sense to have a blanket rule for all patients . As a long term pain medication user i know it sure works for me ... Hope this remedies itself .
Yesterday I had to take the s***ty plastic formula manufactured by Mundingpharma (not sure of the spelling) because they had run out of the Sandoz brand at my chemist.. Half an hour later I was vomiting and had a really horrible headache...I didnt get any pain relief until I was able to get my Sandoz ones in the afternoon... I am astounded that doctors believe that there is nothing wrong with the plastic wrapped Mundingpharma product.. What I want to know is who trialed those tablets? Who from that pharmaceutical company said that there are no side effects? Who said that the pain relief was the same as the Sandoz? Who is lying because the Mundingpharma formulation is so horrible yet the doctors that I see say that it was trialed and I'm the one lying....? So who does the testing for these companies? Who are the guinea pigs?
Sandie, Thank you for all of the information that you have taken the time to post here. It is much appreciated by me and others, I'm sure. Every now and then we get a know-it-all, who thinks they can diagnose and fix our problems (most recently Kimber). And..the know-it-alls ALWAYS have to throw in some rude comments about people being addicts, instead of people who are trying to live every day with debilitating pain. Do they really think that drug addicts would come to a site like this? What would be the point? I guess the internet trolls are always looking for new places to spew their nasty venom...and one of them just happened to turn up here...Kimber-Troll. Again...thank you, Sandie... for your much needed and appreciated advice. Sometimes, it is you who gets me through my day, when I don't feel like I'm going to make it.
I'm going on eight years use for chronic back pain and I too am suffering from the formula change. I've also noticed the pills themselves vary in strength throughout the same bottle! Side effects have appeared I never had too (tearing eyes, fatigue, jumpy legs, tenseness . . . And now; hot flashes!). I've not felt this bad since I was hurt, originally.
Maybe a class action suit would get everyone's attention, huh? I know this much: I'm at my wits' end! Heaven help us. It sure seems no one else will!
You're right! You don't see Budweiser removing the alcohol content from their products because of alcoholics!!
What I don't understand is that the instant release haven't been altered (the OxyCodone). If I'm not mistaken, you can still chew them up/crush them and they're not rendered inert. So, where "abuse" is concerned, who care about the extended release tablets? The junkies can still just use the IR's! Since that's the case, why put us through this agony? Could it be to sell more of the IR's - which I now find myself using more than before (to get me through, between "long-acting" OxyContin doses)? What I get are generic . . . . Does Purdue own stock in generic companies? :-/
Oh! SO I went to some super-specialists last week (withholding who/where) and you know what they did for me? They prescribed a super-dangerous anti-depressant! Gee . . . thanks a lot! :-( (I'll pass on that.)
Long time legit chronic pain patient here.
The "ghost" is absolutely true. It is a known fact.
So to you people accusing this person of being stupid, it is you that is the moron. Read the paperwork that comes with the Oxycontin, or go on Purdue's website.
BTW The OP formula does suck, but it is better than nothing...
You know . . . you can tell your co-worker to tell her husband, "Thanks a lot . . . NOT!" from me!
It's people like him who are responsible for we legitimate users/sufferers being in the bind we're in now! (Of course, I recognize the government oughta' get the heck out of our business/lives too - but, they wouldn't be nearly as empowered were it not for the abusers!)
By the way, my son has ADD. He just called me from college in Boston to tell me that, because of FDA meddling, the entire supply of Adderall is now exhausted - for the whole US!!! No more will be manufactured/available until after the first of the year - and maybe not till February!
He's had to start a new medication. The name escapes me right now, but there are far more side-effects listed AND . . . instead of the usual $5 copay, it's a $75 copay!
There's your useful, efficient, benevolent federal government for you!
Heaven help us should we get another four years of this madness!
I am weary over this constant battle to aquire good medical care as well as pain relief. I also am on the new op's. No matter how much i tell myself they are the same as the old formula..i can't continue to decieve myself because they are NOT the same.Tell that to your Dr/pharmaceutical company and they will disagree. It is true that they keep one from serious withdrawal and there is some pain relief but all in all they just don't cover the pain well. And what patient's are paying for the new formula for the amount of pain relief..well... I take many other med's for various ailment's and i could swear they are not working as well. How could they..after one takes a op and they gell up ..all other med's wick into the gell.Face it..we are at the mercy of greedy pharmceutal's and dr's who own stock in them.Once i strted the new op's i have sting's and itching and a constant upset stomach.I still can't trust the plastic in these. How long before op patients become ill from all the plastic we are consuming?
Concerned, thanks for your concern. I am sorry for your family, but there are so many of us who need this med. It just needs to go back to the original formula. I myself cannot take morphine and I have tried methadone, which I found I am allergic to. So what else is there? I take my meds exactly as prescribed. I do not have a tendency toward addiction, but I am dependent upon oxycontin. I always will be, as I have permanent nerve damage in my lower spine due to an epidural. You are speaking from the heart, which I understand. I have a brother who is an alcoholic. His choice to be the way he is.
That's y they make places called drug rehab my Gma has had 5 back surgeries 4 in 4 an a half months an 18 surgeries all together so rehab is the only thing that will help people with drug addicions get over it if they want 2 stop its messed up that people that need it for chronic pain have suffer because of drug addicts learn not 2 get on ir if u dont need iit an oxycotin is synthetic heroin so if the resort to heroin better them on that then something they dont need an let the people that suffer from pain have what works best for them an let the drug addicts go through withdrawals for being stupid for getting themselves in that position people that r in pain didn't ask for what happened 2 them
It does NOT accumulate in your body. It is safe to take. The issue with tylenol is taking it with alcohol or other drugs that are hard on the liver. There are millions of people who have taken it for more than 24 yrs who are fine. The dose (max) is 4grams thats 4000 milligrams or 8 extra strength tablets, 8 hydro 5/500, 8 tylox, 5mg oxycodone/500mg apap, etc. That is why they made the 10/325 percocet so a patient could have more oxycodone than 12 of the 5/325 percocets provided. It wasn't the oxycodone, but the acetaminophen (APAP) that was the issue. So, instead of 12x5 or 60mg oxycodone and 3875mg of apap in 12 percocets, you can now have double the oxycodone with a given amount of apap.
Regarding your relative who is 65. Tylenol is STILL SAFE. AGE IS NOT A FACTOR, its the metabolism and function of the body. As we age our organs sometimes do not work as well. Many elderly people have less liver and kidney function than they did when they were younger. SO, you have to watch the dose of everything, alcohol, drugs (including tylenol), salt, caffeine, and so on.
To make a blanket statement that over 65 should not take tylenol or that it is dangerous over a long period of time is ridiculous and irresponsible. Stick with things you know something about, and leave medicine to those of us who know about it. It will save a lot of people getting worried because they read something online that some "expert" posted. How do you know they were an expert? "They had all these facts and figures they posted", which mean nothing. Absolute garbage.
What were yo taking pain pill's for? And what are you doing for pain now that your off? Dear it's a common mistake to point ones finger at everyone who need's pain med's if you yourself is an addict. It's also very foolish and wrong.
Honey, you're sadly mistaken. It's NOT easy to point fingers, but I've been in the game long enough to know that most of these people posting about the meds not working the same, are 100% more likely to be addicts. The fact of the matter is, if you've been on the medication for over a year, you are also ADDICTED. You are certainly dependant on the drug..
I WAS prescribed oxycontin upon having a car wreck several years ago. I've had injections in my vertebrate, have done physical therapy, and also the meds. Once I could no longer break up the oxycontin, I did what just about EVERYONE did, and switched over to the immediate release (Perc 30's). That's something the drs should also realize people were doing. None the less, I didn't post anything to point fingers, I'm simply hopeful that some of you will wake up! If your judgement is CONSTANTLY clouded and you're not in the right state of mind, you've not living life to your ability. Pain killers are a MASK, and you know it as well as I do. It doesn't HEAL ANYTHING. It just covers it up..
Even though I do still suffer from pain, I deal with it. I live with it, because I have to. I have to for my children, my family, and for anyone who's ever cared about me. You should consider the same..
Some people are addicts, and some people are dependent. We will both go through withdrawals if we stop. The difference is this, those of us who are dependent will have excruciating pain that is mind boggling. Obviously you are an addict, or you would know this.
Why are you 'calling someone else out'? This thread is not about abuse. It is about whether there is a possibility of bring the old Oxycontin back. If you want to argue, go to another thread, K?
TO CLEAR UP:
Addiction and Dependency are )))NOT((( the same. I am using OxyContin and am dependent on it. I need it for pain, and I need it to avoid withdrawal. I am NOT an addict, someone who acts totally different and thinks differently about thier meds.
An addict might be and probably is in pain, an addict is dependent.
A person dependent might or might not be in pain, probably is, but is probably not addicted.
Addiction: the ongoing use of a substance despite severe consequences (health,job, legal, etc), and unable to control the amount they take. Thinks and obsesses about, is concerned with having enough, and might start to increase without dr approval, doing script forgery, dr shop, etc.
Dependency. Uses the meds properly, will have pain and withdrawal upon sudden discontinue. If pain is undertreated might develop pseudo addiction, behaving similar to an addict primarily increase without dr approval, doing script forgery, dr shop, etc
There is no upper limit. If you get or take more than 80mg per day, you or your dr is not going to prison. Just because you take that much doesn't mean you are or should be in the hospital.
in fact, because i do take that much, I AM NOT IN THE HOSPITAL. How does that grab you RehabRyan.
I dont know if there has ever been a study to see if all the users on this board are addicts or if they spell it or only say OXY --does that make them a likely addict. Maybe, but I doubt it. I think its more of a habit than anything.
If you DONT KNOW, dont post as if you know. It just makes you look silly.
oops I forgot. You might abuse your OxyContin, and might not be an addict. You might be dependent, you might be in pain.
You might abuse it and not be an addict, dependent or in pain.
You might abuse it , be an addict, dependent, and in pain,
You might abuse it be an addict dependent, and in not in pain.
I mean every possiblity. Except that being dependent DOES NOT MEAN you are an addict. You might, you might not be.
You might be dependent and not in pain or in pain and be or not be an addit.
But because you are dependent does not automatically make you an addict.
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