Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula (Page 18) (Top voted first)

is Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.

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Dox what is oxynorm?

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Oxynorm has oxycodone the same active ingredient as what's in oxycontin oxynorm is instant release capsules and comes in 5mg '10mg '15mg '20mg strengths

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My post was for Robert. Sorry.

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Hey Michelle, no I am not a pharmacist. I am just somebody like yourself, however has made a lot of phone calls and e-mails trying to get to the bottom of what's going on. Now by my understanding is the Government gave the nod to generic oxycodone. Two brands Apotex and Sandoz met all the requirements of the Australian therapeutic goods registry. (So the product was made and analyzed). But on August 1 the Pharmaceutical Benefits scheme did not approve listing/contributing to these products. Meaning basically it would be expensive. Therefore both brands decided against making the product for Australia...... An employee of Apotex told me there was to be 1 company still going ahead and to have your pharmacies ask the suppliers if they know of it. But I don't know how that could be the case when only Apotex, Chemart, Terry White (all three being actually Apotex) and Sandoz are registered with TGA.

PBS (Pharmaceutical Benefits scheme) will be looking at this again on December 1st. As they do with all products each April 1, August 1 and December 1. Sadly it has been 4 months since the OP's came out and its another 4 months until maybe a generic comes out yet.... Not very happy.

If anyone does find out any different please add.

pharmadispatch.com/delay-in-generic-oxycontin

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BL oxynorm is oxycodone with no other chemical/drug Targin is a brand of its own, which has oxycodone & naloxone in it. This drug was made primarily to help with constipation, a problem most people on long term narcotic medications face. It seems to be a good option for some although for those on larger doses of meds wont be able to change to Targin alone, it hasnt been trialled on high doses. Doctors are trying patients on a combination of Targin & oxycontin for those wanting to change. I havnt tried it as I have allergic reactions to many medications, & changing is a last resort for me. If i change meds it means a couple of weeks in hospital minimum to make sure I dont have an anaphylactic reaction. If they dont release a generic oxycontin & Im still having problems getting my pain under control, my only real option is going to be fentanyl patches. I really dont want to have to resort to that, its such a strong medication, & i hate the idea of having to take that to control my pain. John D If you get any new info id appreciate it if you can post asap, i have an appointment with my pain specialist late next week & this will be our main focus atm. Thanx for all your help.

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John D. My chemist hasnt heard anymore, they will ask reps when they call in. I have the best team anyone could ask for between my GP, Pain Spec & Chemist, they will do anything to help me. {edited for privacy}. Will post here if i find anymore out. Cheers.

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Doc, thanx for the info, it sux a whole lot though. Im sick if being the one who suffers because of greed (pharmaceutical companies & junkies) neither give a damn about the patients who are affected. Of course Mundipharma pretend its all about the junkies abusing it, but its all about them having the patent & getting more money without any competition. The fact that the patients the medication is for are having problems with it, doesnt matter at all to them. I wish I could change to MS Contin but Im allergic to it. As for the carcigens added to the New Formula, terrific, we wouldnt want the poor junkies overdosing, never mind the patients the medication was designed for, who cares about them -woo hoo big win for Mundipharma & Purdue, laughing all the way to the bank. Im bawling like a baby for the first time in years, Im the most positive person you will ever get but I feel like Ive just been punched in the guts over & over again. Thank you for sending back to years ago, where my pain was so out of control, id spend most days double up on the couch unable to do anything. I refused to tale tjese medications for a long time, it took a lot of persuasion from my GP & Pain Specialist to try it. After different meds failing & seizures from Tramadol & other reactions from different meds, I tried Oxycontin, Ive been able to have a life since then. I cant do the things I loved before like riding & training horses but I can work part time & set up a charity. Im struggling with it now, not having the good days where my pain would be a 4-5 im lucky to get down to an 8. Thanx to those who provided information on this subject, I wish everyone the best of luck in the future.

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Hi Michelle I have no problem helping you out at all trying to get you in track again I suffer with cronic severe pain In my back due to wedge fractures my discs have been ruptured and a lot of other things in my back are completely ruined after the operation I had after being hit by a car I'm lucky to be still able to walk I was doing really great on the old OxyContin with oc on win side if the tablet and the mg on the other eg oc 80 I was on 40mg of OxyContin daily and 2 x oxynorm instant release oxycodone capsules being the same active ingredient as OxyContin for breakthrough/rescue pain relief I was on 120mg all up and it was greatly controlling my pain then without any warning I went to get my monthly script filled and the packaging was different and the blister packs inside looks weird they were OxyContin reformulated I took the first one and it did not do anything for my pain a panadiene forte is what it felt like I had taken an they are weak the little relief it did provide kicked in hours later and then left quickly also I started to feel really horrible bad anxiety dizziness ect they are horrible also they started keeping me awake for ages at night I couldn't relax because I was at 9 pain level the new ones suck I told My dr and pain mgmt drs and thy just kept increasing the dose of OxyContin I told them I didn't want that at all! It's the junkies fault who cares if those junkies abuse them and die good ridens to them they are just ruining the medications that work great for people but since changing to 100mg MS Contin morphine 2x a day and still take 2x 20mg oxynorm a day i am getting perfect pain relief! So why can you not take morphine Michelle ? I can also give you some names and info about some other alternatives of different opiates in the same class as oxy and morphine so you can finally change to something else and get pain relief I know opiate very well I am a legitimate user and never ever abuse my pills at all hope to hear back from you soon Michelle

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There will be no old ones coming out in Australia at all only OxyContin reformulated is out and that is all that is going to be out they are not changing it back and also no generics either mundipharma/Purdue are the only ones with the patent face it the OxyContin are not coming back and we have moved onto better pain meds now since the junkie drug addict scum bags ruined the original OxyContin controlled release tablets so they made so called unabusable ones that don't control pain at all and are useless

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Michelle. That must have been horrific for you being stabbed for your months supply of Opiate meds. You must be a very strong person to have got through that on top of your debilitating condition (although don't know what that is) My husband has a brain tumour and was put on Targin, however this medication caused bowel trouble. He was then changed to Oxycontin and he is only taking 20mg twice day. He started on the old formulation and has now switched to new formula without any problems at all. (I guess he's just lucky) Anyway, he may not be on it for much longer unfortunately because the tumour has reccured and there is not much more they can do for him. And this is where I start getting confused, a terminal patient is never denied pain medication and it always seems to work for them (I have lost 3 uncles to different types of cancer) but people with cronic non life threatening conditions that require opiate pain meds have so much trouble with them. I hope I never have to see another person on this evil medication. I was feeling sorry for myself, but after reading your posts, I feel sorry for you. But hey, if something works then you should not be denied it nor should you knock it back. Do whatever you can to keep yourself sane and most of all "pain free" as for the junkies you were talking about, they need to be done away with because a lot of people can obviously fake being in a great deal of pain. I can't even begin to imagine what your going through with your condition as well as getting your pain meds right, as you couldn't begin to imagine what I'm seeing with a terminally ill husband on pain meds. Very sad.

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Yes it does sck terribly that they are not bringing the old formula back I can feel the difference in my stomach and all the side effects the OxyContin reformulated op tablets were causing me have gone since swapping to morphine aka MS Contin take it the same as i did the OxyContin 2 times a day I'm about to have 30 to 40 mg of oxycodone instant release 20mg of oxynorm and 2 to 4 endone now for some breakthrough pain I am so happy they haven't stuffed with the formulas on the instant release oxycodone tablets I have spoken to a few generic pharmaceutical manufactures apotex sandoz ect and they will not be making any of the old version OxyContin slow release I can not find any evidence at all supporting the guy who is saying thy are coming back they simply are not I wish they were as I would swap back to them from MS Contin only If the formula was the same as they were in the beginning and that's not going to happen

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Michelle, thanks for a reply. I made a mistake with his dosage. My husband is on 40mg twice daily and has just been given Oxynorm 10 mg today whenever he needs to take it through out the day or night. (He started on 20mg of Targin but as mentioned, it wasn't tolerated well.) A couple of words in my post were not what I wrote as well. When I was referring to the junkies you mentioned I actually said they need to be "weeded out" I never said they needed to be "done away with" that's just cruel. No person should be "done away with" I guess my main problem with these meds and there uses are the long term use and tolerance build up which has been explained by our palliative care nurse. Eventually he will be on so much and such a high dose he'll be non functioning from the drug dose not the tumour!! I just can't believe some people have been on this crap for 10yrs and more. How do you function properly? I'm only going on what I have witnessed in the past with family members and my husband having to take this stuff, and surely you have witnessed it with your friends breast cancer. From everything I've seen they are not themselves when taking it. I know how they were before they had to take it and I just saw there personality disappear when they started to take it. I was asking "where did they go?" It was explained to me by my mum in my uncles case it was the medication, but the palliative care doc has explained to me in my husbands case it could be a bit of both the drugs and having a brain that is not firing properly. All I know is that I am to young for this shyte. (I would HOPE 42 is to young!) Anyways, thanks for your words of kindness, I'm dealing with way to much and way to many feelings at this stage. I'm glad I stumbled on this forum, its been an eye opener that's for sure. Here's hoping one day they can come up with something that works as well as a narcotic, and still keep peoples minds and personalities stable. Goodbye and good luck.

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Suck it up you don't know much about narcotic opioid medication don't matter howuch they up the dose he will get used to it and tolerate it and won't be like a zombie change the medication for your husband and stop whinging in here and Targin for the life of me I don't know why they would put a cancer patient on that it is oxycodone/naloxone and naloxone is a full opioid antagonist it is used to ring people out of overdoses and was designed mainly for people that were thought of as drug seekers and people under the age of 25 Targin will not help pain and has only been trialed on smaller doses it will put someone who is on high doses of OxyCodone or any other opiate into withdrawals when the pill kicks in so just swap the medication to a better and tolerable one as the old OxyContin slow release is not going to be released in generic form I have spoken with apotex sandoz alphapharm aspen and none of them are coming out with generic OxyContin slow release formula good luck with your pain people! My pain is under control now brilliant pain medication I have swapped long acting again still taking 20mg oxynorm 2 to 3 times a day for breakthrough pain but everything is perfect now and the new long acting tablets I'm on none of you have mentioned on here all I can say is goodluck people #feeling great my new long acting medication is better than OxyContin ever was and is way better than MS Contin

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Dox. sounds to me like you don't have much time for anyone who doesn't take some form of narcotic. Every post on this site is in some form of a whine. The only difference about my whinging is that it has come from a different angle to yours and everyone else's. So suck it up Dox!

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Really Dox.....I thought you were giving valuable information, not here to have a go at people. This forum is here to help anyone who needs it, for information, to converse with others in same position or to vent. It doesn't matter if your a patient or a carer, hopefully it helps those who need it. I know you have information that there wont be a generic, but I believe John D has information, from those who are responsible for medication registration & the PBS, we will see what happens in Dec. There's no reason to get nasty because someone disagrees with you, this should be a place where we help each other not tell people to suck it up when they are looking to help their loved ones. Katherine, don't feel sorry for me don't need anyones pity, everyone has problems to overcome. If theres one thing I've learnt from being sick, its to take the joy from what you have & don't dwell on what you don't. I cant train horses anymore or work full time, but I work when i can & i volunteer with my dog helping sick/disabled kids. If i wasn't sick i never would have done that & it gives me so much in return. I hope everyone is able to push themselves each day, & find the things that make them happy.

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Ok, I have taken what you said about living each day the best you can Michelle. It's great advice that has been given to me before and is so true, so thanks. I've had to quit my job as well and I miss it a lot. I am not a naive person either, and am certainly no delicate wall flower that's for sure. In my profession I've been spat on, kicked, punched and been called pretty much every bad name that exits, and its all been due to some form of drug abuse. Its the Jekyll and Hyde syndrome. I have nothing against this medication, but I do think it should be reserved for severe cases only. The only reason people are able to abuse it is because somewhere somehow somebody has lied to their doctor or whoever to be able to get it in the first place. It's got to start somewhere. I hope you understand where I'm coming from. It's actually nice to be able to converse with someone who is a legit user and able to offer explanations that are real first hand experiences. All I know is that this brain tumour has rocked my world and not in the good way. (Gotta keep some form of mild humour) My colleagues who I have known forever have still been offering great support and palliative care team are wonderful, however, sometimes I still feel very isolated. Like I have already said, it's been an eye opener to have been on this forum and I sincerely wish you all the best as you have with me.

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I am sorry if I came across in a bad manner I didn't mean to suck it up pain wise at all I feel where you guys are coming from and know how it feels I will help you guys and share as much information with you's as you guys need my apologies but I know basically all the opioid/narcotic available and I can tell you how good they are and how crap they are also I can assure you that john d is a troll he is lying there will be no OxyContin generic forms coming out at all i know that for a fact 100% I have now switched medications again to another and it's working brilliant I haven't been feeling like this with my pain level so low since I started the normal old OxyContin but this new meds knock the old OxyContin out of the park and work a treat I love the way I can function now on the new OxyContin reformulated I couldn't get out of bed untill I had my oxy and a breakthrough med #love the way I feel I can function :) so sorry if I came accoss wrong in my last post

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Well that was very big of you Dox. Thankyou. Sounds like your doing well so far. When he first started on opiates which was not long ago, they started him with Targin and Fentanyl patches. When that didn't work they began with the full Oxycontin. I think that is the procedure they follow with everyone. His memory is terrible and the other day he fell asleep in the doctors chair while we were talking. I had to clap my hands in front of him and say "wake up!" He's been fighting this for 5 yrs but last MRI, MRSpectroscopy showed change of grade and growth. He did his radiation after debulking surgery 5 yrs ago, so we gonna have a go with Chemotherapy now. That's gonna be a joy. You know, I just stumbled on this forum when I was doing some research on this new medication he had been put on and I've got to say I'm glad I did. It's been informative. Even though my situation is very different to yours and others (hope I'm not whinging to much. Only kidding) sometimes it can be therapeutic to converse with total strangers. In my job we must avoid confrontation and try to defuse any situation, and I've taken some crap over the years, so I guess I've learned to give as good as I get. But when something like this happens to you it just leaves a big question mark hanging over your head. So thankyou again for the apology it meant a lot and I must apologize for my response, it was uncalled for, and remember everyone is entitled to an opinion, good bad or indifferent. Here's hoping the doctors are smart enough to work it out, for everyone that is. Go well.

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Thanks Michelle I appreciate your apology here is what I have tried with my gp he is a great gp and will not prescribe to addicts he switched me to MS Contin then I went to a much better one it is called jurista it is hydromorphone as the active ingredient the good thing about the jurista is that you take it once every 24 hours it is strong like oxycodone a bit stronger so you can give that ago I will get the prices and post for the generic brands of OxyContin on here for you guys also I'm in Australia don't know about you guys

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I forgot to post a link to the "leaflet" that comes with the Generic Oxycodone.

My pharmacist said it should be around $68 a script. The media contact I have been talking with spoke to Sandoz after me to confirm I was correct. He said he believes you should be able to get the price a little cheaper depending where you go. Also I asked how long until the suppliers will have the medication for the pharmacies, he answered with "a couple days max".

It seems Dox has cast doubt into most my posts even though they normally come with a link to some supporting evidence. The link for the Leaflet has Sandoz contact number call if in doubt. Might be a little silly for everyone to call though.

As for a private script, you don't need anything different from the doctor, you just need to inform the pharmacist of your intention and they will either order it for you. Or soon stock it. If your doctor does not want you to use Generics they can tick a box not allowing this.

This will be my last post as the question is resolved. Good luck to you all. I know I am looking forward to some real pain relief that will last the appropriate duration :D

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