What Is Stronger Dilaudid Or Oxycontin 40 Mg? (Page 4)
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I have been on Dilaudid for over 2 years now and I can't seem to get off of it. I'm under a doctor's care, but anyone who is on it knows it's very addicting! I think like everybody else, it's no good if you take it orally. It's only effective other ways. I always run out of Dilaudid before my prescription is ready to refill and recently I filled a script for oxycontin 40 mg to see if they could replace my 4 mg Dilaudid. However, I took 1/2 of a 40 mg. and felt nothing. An hour later I took my 4 mg Dilaudid and it seems to have worked. But they are very short lived, that's why for chronic pain they like to give these stupid time release pain pills. How many mg.'s does equal the same amount of Dilaudid? I also would like to know if anyone has ever tapered off of Dilaudid? You get really sick when you try to get off of it, really intense vomiting and stomach pain that lasts forever. I have never stuck it out, I always end up in the emergency room. All they do is give me a pain shot of Dilaudid and a prescription for it as well and send me home. They think there is something wrong with something else. I have even tried to tell them but they either don't want to get involved because I'm under a Dr.'s care or they are just stupid. I hope someone has the best kicking advice, I'd rather be straight or just be one of those once in a while users (RIGHT)!!!

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I am so sorry for your pain, and your situation. I wish I had the power to change things for you and everyone else too! You speak the truth about the insurance companies as well as the rest of the system, I agree completely. I wish you all the best in your struggle!

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See if you can get a pain pump. Pain pumps can be filled with either Morphine, Dilaudid or Fentanyl. I've had mine for 6 years and it really helps a lot for the pain.

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It should be OxyContin as your constant pain care and dilaudid for breakthrough pain which is also constant as we all know other wise we would all have a surplus of pills on good days when there wasn't any breakthrough pain---what a crock!!!! Pain is pain okay but anyhow I was on 8mgs dilaudid and OxyContin and I had okay pain relief and to the joy of my pain doc I always requested inj's.--after a few months I wound up in the hospital with a deep vein thrombosis--FROM INJ'S.---but the spasms that made me request inj's. are a side effect of dilaudid!!!! Dilaudid is for pre op or post op....not for continual use!!!

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Find a lawyer who will sue them for bad faith on top of the work comp. If they are delaying your surgeries and causing pain and suffering; which work comp won't pay out for ; file a bad faith suit for delaying your surgeries. Same happened to my father. He lost everything.

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I've been on dilaudid for a few years 8mg it does help. I Just had cervical surgery where they replaced a herniated disc I had 2 side by side but they replaced one disc with cadaver bone and took care of a bone spur also. I Agree IV dilaudid works better but either way is not long lasting I was wondering if oxcicotin would be a good break through addition. I Also take 1mg Xanax for my severe anxiety among other stuff like soma and trazodone & tramadol. Any suggestions?

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I need to see your doctor. Hurting in Nashville.

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Fentanyl patches and OxyContin or oxycodone are a total waste of time. They don't work at all, believe me, I tried them both and dilaudid 8's slows the pain just a bit. The others meds don't do diddly squat. Thank God I'm not headed for menopause cause I don't think men could handle that s*** too well. Especially if the pain is similar to mine. I appreciate the response though.

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Whatch What you tell people! She said oxycontin, not oxycodone. Which is time released!!!

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I Hurt Much Funny how I loved dilaudid when I was a kid but hate them now...not very good for pain but fentanyl patch and oxycodone for breakthrough work very well, every six hours anyway, for 3-4 hours.,they refuse to give more than 4 and if you're menopausal you should be getting all oxycodone. I found studies that said as much but doctors don't want to hear it

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Where do y'all live that you're getting prescribed these pain meds? I too have three herniated disc from L4,5-S1, bulging discs at C6&7, spinal stenosis, nerve damage, radiculopathy, decorative disc disease, degerative arthritis, fibromyalgia and jus had a hip replacement a year ago that is still giving me problems and my former pain management doctor had me on 20 mg Opana twice a day, 4 mg dilaudid, four times a day and 350 mg of Soma four times a day for over three years, then jus randomly decided that myself and everyone else needed to be taken off of everything. I was barely making it day to day while on my meds. Now I have no life at all. I wouldn't wish my pain on my worst enemy. I live in NE Ohio and can't seem to find a decent doctor that will take the time to listen to me and work with me as to what worked and didn't work with past treatments. Everyone is so fast to judge.

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True.....I read that the one easy to consistently get a reading of is hydrocodone but remember nowadays it's all about monitoring and people control not pain control

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I've been addicted to opiates my whole life and after every rehab methadone everything the only thing that has helped me is suboxene. I've been on it 8 years and never run out. This coming from a woman on 220mg methadone when I gave birth so I know how hard opiate addiction is.

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In my opinion the dilaudid 8mg that I take every 3 to 4 hours and my morphine sulfate liquid still doesn't quite kill my pain at all. I've been taking dilaudid 8s for 10 years and before that it was dilaudid 4s. Nothing else seems to help with break through pain. Since that's been said, what else would help control my pain to the point that I have a better quality of life?

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OMG Girl! Sucks! Your lucky you are getting any meds at all. You better be very careful if you want to continue to get them. You are actually on the fast-track of getting off the opiate train legally. The doctor most likely has a contract with you and if you admit anything else that you do to your medication to alter it in order to feel the effects of it, he will drop you. There is a reason there are directions on the pill bottle and patients are bound to follow those directions to a "T." I don't mean to sound hard-nosed about this but I am trying to give you a wake up call! I am all for honest and not lying but you also have to not "tell on yourself" in your best interest. He didn't need to know that. If you were trying to establish some sort of trust with the doctor, that is one thing.
Back to your meds and you really, really high tolerance. Do you know what your next stop is if you don't get a grip on this? I understand it is addiction, or chemical dependency, or opiate tolerance, false addiction (any nice way of saying, you "R" addicted) your next stop is the HORSE which will lead you to death very quickly with your tolerance or you need to detox and not ever relapse. My theory (unproven) is that when you detox after having a huge run, a heavy run for a long time, and you clean up then anytime you relapse (1 year, 6 months, 20 years) you are okay maybe the first couple of times but then your tolerance kicks in. The problem is, you haven't had time to build up your tolerance again; therefore, you are at high risk of overdosing like 100 fold. You have the built in tolerance but lack the daily, monthly, yearly constant dosing to practice building the tolerance. That is why so many people when they relapse, overdose and die. I don't want that for you and you want better for yourself. So I apologize - actually no I don't apologize for trying to make you see what is in store for your ass. I want you to wake up and look at the big picture to get better maintenance to live longer. Peace.

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You may be onto something there. I was visiting a "Mental Hotel" when a said "former green beret" from Nam talked about being captured. He was dosed up on H for a week and then let loose in the jungle. Luckily he was found by his camp. When he returned to his camp they fed him a concoction of cooked together:

4 oranges
4 lemons
4 limes
4 starlite mints (red and white pin-wheel looking mints from a restaurant)

Sounds crazy as hell and I really question the validity of it but if you say OJ really helped you through severe Methadone addiction withdrawal maybe there is something to it.

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You are absolutely correct and it's people like that who become addiction counselors and have no clue about what you are going through. But give it a little while and the person that can't get addicted to anything will feel our pain. I hope they can suck it up then.

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People who have never had an addiction are very lucky but they need to keep their mouth shut I would love to see the suck it up person deal with coming off methadone after being on 200mg a day for 7 years. I did it by going to jail for 6 months and I nearly died. For the person trying to come off subs with dilaudid needs to ask his doctor why he is letting you mix a drug that has a blocker with a type of drug that it is meant to block. As bad as hate to tell you your going to hurt and it takes a while but you will wake up one day feeling good again if you try coming off sub's without anything and that's the only real way to do it. Try tapering a half mg a mouth till you are off but expect to still hurt for a while but you can do it.

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This got me off opiates 45 years ago, blind detox from methadone using orange juice. It worked for me. I had a 10 year run.

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That is a very interesting response. I don't necessarily believe in the microbiology of it and the endocrinology aspect of it but it does give one pause to think.

If one opiate can cause a "false reading" for a menopausal woman then ALL opiates would cause a false reading. They all act the same throughout the body with the exception of the opiate mu receptors (comprised of neurons and synapses) in the brain. Everyone wants to be on Fentanyl because it is the closest thing you can get to H legally and that it is 80% stronger than morphine. Get real.

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Women in menapause shouldnt even be given long acring meds. They can cause false negatives in UA's and really mess up your adrenal glands and hormones...THATS why everyone sweats on fentanyl! Oxycodone is the best for folks with hypothyroidism. It raises T levels, improving mood and energy.

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