Watson Vs. Mylan Generic Lorazepam Side Effects. (Page 3)
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Been on Sandoz mfr. lorazepam for 10 years; no problems; no need to increase dose. Sandoz stopped mfr. Now, can only get these generic's & Actavis. Having lots of troubles getting results; either nothing or zonked. Anyone else w/any experience which mfr. is closer to Sandoz (since FDA approves up to 2% differences in generics). Thank you.

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Re: Gabby (# 473) Expand Referenced Message

Why is it interesting to know where I work? I’m here for the same reason as everyone else... I started getting panic attacks ect after working there due to other health issues and actually had to stop working there for a few years because my health was so bad. Yes so many doctors frown upon benzos. But one of the doctors I work with is a great doctor and I’ve talked to her several tokes about if I ever go off of it how difficult it is ect. My pdoc and pschyatrist have no problem keeping me on this medication because it’s the only thing that works for me. My boss and several people I work with know about my health problems and medication. They don’t judge me and have no reason too. You’d be surprised how many people who work in the mental health field deal with mental health problems of their own. Maybe I took that the wrong way but seemed like that was a rude insult at me. I don’t sit around and talk to pharmaceutical companies all day. That is not my job. Not do I have time to. When I’m at work I do my job and leave my health up to my doctors and pharmacist. They knew nothing about mylan discontinuing hence why I did my own research and why I’m here.

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Re: Gabby (# 489) Expand Referenced Message

Boy did you hit this one right. I know who you’re talking about and I’m pretty sure that person works for the FDA. I’m sure this is the one holding posts from printing, but we all have legitimate health problems and we need to continue getting our point across. I have an 80 yo Mom who has been suffering with arthritis and muscle spasms for years and takes very little in the way of pain meds, in fact has a rx for Norco, but very rarely ever uses that which I’m all for. She had a rep from HAP Sr Plus call her last week to see about cutting costs on some of her meds. She asked what my mom was on and being honest my mom gave her all this info. She’s taken Robaxin for 20 years as needed for severe cramping and it’s worked great. This girl said bec of her age she shouldn’t be on it even though Mom has cut her dose way down and only takes it now at bedtime. This <+\!#,¥ called moms doc and told her she didn’t think she should be on that med and the doc actually called the pharmacy and changed it without even talking to my mom, to Zanaflex, which has more side effects and actually can drop blood pressure too low and that’s been a huge issue with Mom for many years!! I’m so angry the govt seems to be taking over and controlling us like robots. I’ve had these calls from my ins and I tell them I have a wonderful internist through a university and I only trust her and my one pharmacist to make decisions for me, no third party’s advice. Be careful and always trust your instincts..

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What i said to you wasn't personal Savannah. If you re-read what I said you might understand that I couldn't understand what you were doing. Me saying I'm focusing on the task at hand was just that. I'm guessing I'm going to have to call or write Medchat to see what I'm doing or saying wrong here. Also asked them when are they going to remove the individual I have spoke of many times. I've read their policy a few times and I've said nothing that would warrant my post to not loaded up. I have a lot of resources still at hands that might be valuable to others out here. But writing this out while on my mobile and not having it post is pretty perplexing. Have a good one y'all!

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Re: Deedee (# 488) Expand Referenced Message

Deedee and Savannah I have replied to both of your comments but for whatever reason they're not being posted. I can tell you both that Valeant does not include Ativan in their list of medication they give assistance with. The automated number gives a list of medications they do not help with. Ativan was one of them.

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Re: Savannah (# 487) Expand Referenced Message

I've been in your shoes and I still am. I have family members that are all in the same boat as us. Some have been able to take the new drugs available and some haven't. I've had two who tried to end their live's that took some of the meds that we've all taken. I've been told exactly what you were told you may need this for life.

Here's some food for thought if any of you guys know what they give for seizures such as grand mal seizures or petite, etc? Many are loaded up on some type of benzodiazepines group such as phenobarbital and others on top of that to live some kind of normal life. Yes there are many new drugs available that even they can't take. And do the doctors or pharmacist say anything about it? Absolutely not. Why because like many other illnesses that aren't stigmatized by mental health issues they say it's ok.

My daughter has a friend shes giving a room in her home to live while she is coping with seizures that doesn't want to take her medicine. Guess what she's loaded up on?

Another thing she and I have spoke about how they'll pump senior citizens up on opiates with no restraint or no concerns about it can do them in. But a young adult with degenerative disc disease has the same pain and they want them to cope with it.

My mother in law was given Narco and Tramadol on top of each other. She's in her late 80s with two fractured hips. My sister-in-law had no idea what the two drugs we're doing to her. My spouse had to explain to her seriously are you kidding me you've got mother on what and you leave her home alone. Tell me what's wrong with this whole picture I've explained here from the start.

The medical field and the pharmaceutical companies or the FDA are like this "Don't do as we do -do as we tell you"

We've got a person out here that adds their two cents worth about how these drugs are only for short term usage.Talks about all the side effects and what could possibly happen to us. Seriously dude like we don't already know what these drugs do. I think y'all know who I'm speaking of. The same person that's controlling what gets posted and what doesnt. Take your Rose stained glasses off and get out of your bubble room. Because until you have to deal with what w a lot of us are dealing with you have absolutely no idea what it feels like. People that only read from a text form has absolutely no right to dictate to anyone what they think is right or wrong. Respectfully spoken.

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Gabby (# 482) --

Just a little about me and all I’ve known about how pharmaceuticals work. I was in the medical field for 35 years, and have seen companies in and it’s all about the $$. When this Leading seemed to take over it all about what the pharmacies were buying to give their patients. They aren’t going to stock Mylan if it cost them 3 times what the Leading did. They don’t personally take it so corporate cuts costs and eventually because Leading is ordered by 90% of the pharmacies, it put Mylan off the market with lorazepam as the 10% of us isn’t worth the cost to them to keep manufacturing a medication nobody else will order. It sucks and unless everyone speaks up nothing will happen. Because it isn’t for hypertension or diabetes, nobody is listening. I wish we could all protest by not taking this, but for this debilitating mental illness we need people to listen instead of us suffering. I’m heading into my pharmacy for some other prescriptions today and hope to God they have another month sitting on hold for Monday’s refill. I saw you had a post back to me that you said still hasn’t posted. Let me know if you still don’t see it, because if it’s important info, we need to be sure it’s shared. Thanks and have a good holiday.

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Re: Gabby (# 473) Expand Referenced Message

Hello, I was reading your comment about the Benzos and how some are frowned upon. I was put on mine years ago. I did not want to be on them long term and after about a month I went off of them. Well, I had a panic attack and ended up at the ER. I was told then how I had to take my medication. I was told by many professional medical field people I would have to be on them for the rest of my life. Then as years go by you get a lot of flack about being on something that you basically have to take to feel half way normal. My Dr has never been one to put me down for taking them but the insurance company sends my dr letters at least once a year asking him if it’s necessary to be on them etc.. I feel like they are always breathing down our backs. I find it odd how an insurance company who is not a medical Dr wants to decide if I should be on them. I think a lot of times why did I continue with this med?? I have tried many other things and they did not do the work. They did not help. Yet I feel too I’m frowned upon by my insurance company for being on a medication that I was told I had to be on for the rest of my life. Then we have an incident like others on here talking about all the brands being changed, discontinued and like others almost panicked not knowing what my answer would be when I was told by cvs they would not pay for my Ativan brand Valeant. I still think mylan was the best for me. I wanted to add this on here for others to know that we were all in the same boat. The Valeant Brand Ativan gives people in medical Free meds. Government program. If medical can get it for free I’m sure Valeant would work with you to get your med if you have a brand name only RX and can’t get coverage or afford it. Let’s face it, who can afford to pay 4000 a month for a prescription??? I hope this post does not disturb you. I know you didn’t want to concentrate on me but I want everyone on here to know I went through hell on other brands. My life is not perfect... look to Valeant. They have a website and you can fill out a form for them to help you on their website. I hope this helps.

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Gabby (# 482) --

Henry I've been meaning to ask you what generic Lorazepam where you using right now? You may have told us/me but I can't remember. Are you like the rest of us running short on what we have? Deedee I replied to you again but still hasn't posted.

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Gabby (# 482) --

Sandoz wasn’t Teva. From the Sandoz lorazepam thread on medschat people were taking it until recently, and found a major (negative) difference when Sandoz discontinued and they got Teva/Actavis at their pharmacies. So it was better according to them, but it’s now gone as well as Mylan.

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Re: Henry (# 480) Expand Referenced Message

The question is Henry were they making the old Sandoz that everyone said worked or was it Teva? My pharmacy said it was Sandoz with the SZ 198 on it. But we all seen what Teva, PurePac, Actavis and Watson did just naming a few. What doesnt make sense to me is why wouldn't a company just make one that works and leave it at that. I'm guessing that would be to easy.

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Re: Deedee (# 481) Expand Referenced Message

Leading isn't all we have to take. There are other generic lorazepam. It's just for most of us they don't work. After reading Valeant's website and calling them, Ativan isn't on their list for assistance at a lower cost. It's actually a automated voice message. So that's off the plate but for buying a insurance plan or having the ones we have pay for it. Mine won't but it looks like I will have to call some insurance companies first to see what their policy is and whether they'll pay for it. What happened to Jamie, are you still out here....?

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Re: Deedee (# 481) Expand Referenced Message

Leading Pharma or Actavis are all that is left for generic lorazepam, both such utter garbage that it disgusts me the FDA allows them to sell it.

It won't be a fun summer trial running lorazepam replacement medications. Meh :(

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Re: Henry (# 480) Expand Referenced Message

So Leading is all we have to go by now?? Omg, guess it’s time to switch to something else. I’m praying my pharmacist told me the truth about holding a few bottles of the Mylan 0.5 til my doc and I can research other options..

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*Update on Sandoz*
So I called Sandoz back as the last time I spoke with them they said they were still making it yet my pharmacy was unable to get it. This time they said it was indeed discontinued. And i do believe them this time as it was also taken off their website list of produced medications.

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Deedee (# 475) --

That sounds like a solid plan Deedee. I may have to purchase a different insurance policy. Not going to fib here this is really getting hard to cope with. Like many others out here I feel like I'm chasing my tail. The stigma benzo's carry isn't a healthy feeling. The positive thing I read somewhere on Valeant's website was long term use isn't frowned upon by them.

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Henry (# 476) --

Yeah it's always odd Henry how one of us find a out one thing and another heard something else. I think for the most part it boils down to location and the Pharmacy's Warehouse. What I seen on Sandoz's website was they're out of Canada. I'm going to call them later. If I find out what's up hopefully it will be factual. But we all know how that's been turning out when each of us calls. Thanks for letting me know. :)

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Re: Gabby (# 472) Expand Referenced Message

Hi Gabby, that was me posting about the Sandoz. My pharmacist was unable to get it and unfortunately it sounds like you got more information than me regarding it's status as discontinued. I haven't posted back as I had nothing helpful to add. I'm in the same boat as everyone, talking with my doctor about alternatives while trying to get insurance to cover the brand name Ativan. I have no good news to add to the forum sadly.

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Re: Gabby (# 474) Expand Referenced Message

I have noticed it does take a while to get our posts on here. Valeant should have a patient assistance program for insurance that doesn’t cover it, if our income meets guidelines. I think I’ll try that route first. I am calling them this week. I see my doctor next week and I want to have answers for her. The 0.5 my pharmacy is holding for Monday’s refill, I need a new prescription written so I can get double the amount. They did that before and still have the prescription for the 1 mg just in case. I’ll let you know about the patient assistance program.

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Re: Deedee (# 469) Expand Referenced Message

The other thought would be try and see if your insurance will pay for brand like Savannah has done as well as Pj. You won't have any bad side effects from it. You may need less or a little more. Seems to be different with everyone. I just know it works but I need about what I'm taken with Mylan. I'm older now so I may need less if I go that route. Read below my other post. Jamie I replied twice to your last. Just hasn't popped up yet.

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Re: Gabby (# 472) Expand Referenced Message

Need to clarify that I do have insurance but they will not pay for brand-name Ativan. This is why I'll have to pay cash if Valeant will help me out. I've already done all the fighting I can do they won't pay for it.

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