Taking Subutex And Percocet Together (Page 18)
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My doctor just put me on subutex along with percocet. I've been on percocet for yrs for severe and chronic migraines. He told me to take the subutex and if it doesn't work to take a percocet. I usually take 15 mg percocet at a time. I've read some stuff online that worries me. Some people say if you take percs with subutex you'll go into withdrawals. I went through severe withdrawals with fioricet months ago and I don't want to go through that hell again. I took my first subutex about an hour ago and I still have a migraine so I want to take a perc now. Can I do that or will I get sick?

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Kkh yup it took tough love for me ..I made the choice to switch to sub but my loved ones stopped helping me to kinda push me along
. I sometimes forget the lengths I would go and the bad choices I made but these clinics that treat us are limited in the amount of patients they can treat and its sad to see slots wasted on people who are not "ready" and have those who are desperately seeking help good luck warrior for thats what we are those who battle addiction

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JAMES: I agree with you. I am an addict too, so I am also no one to judge. And the only reason I am on here is to help and to answer questions. But yes, when someone's only question is "how can I use my drug of choice more effectively", it does make me sad. It also makes me wonder if I should even be helping someone like that. I mean, do I want someone to go into precipitated withdrawals? Do I want someone to catch HepC, or to overdose? No, of course not. But then again, maybe a little "tough love" would go a long way with some of these people.

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Not judging for im a recovering addict but I see many posts on here of people asking questions like I've just took a suboxone or subutex, how long before I can take a hydro a perc or oxy??? Duh never!!! So many would give an arm or leg to have suboxone or subutex available to stop using. This brings me to my question.......why did you take a suboxone/subutex if your getting ready to take an opiate within hours of it? Suboxone/subutex is a miracle drug to me and many others. Think about it before you take either. If your in that position give the sub a try. You will thank yourself. God bless to all.

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Amen just belle thats my situation both hips replaceded per juvenile degenerative bone disease and being a slave to opiates for almost 30 yrs I grew tired of the damage to my body and tge withdrawal from running out to soon I take suboxone instead of the subutex for a safety net so I wont get weak and use these drugs are for those of us who have grown sick and tired of being sick and tired from opioid dependence there's a very fuzzy line there on switching from a bup based drug to a opiate pain killer I function 300 percent better on it than any other opiate my favorite being dulaudid and roxy hence the addiction problem the suboxone gives me thr get up and go to keep moving and those of us with chronic pain conditions know this we neen to keep moving or it gets bad I wish you well and still from my own experience suggest to all others if you use suboxone or subutex or any other bup based drug please refrain from opiate use its never good it ineffective and the precipitated withdrawal are horrible and if you are considering switching to a bup base drug wait till your in full withdrawal good luck and well wishes to all

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CHAD: Bad advice from you. Subutex absolutely will throw a person into precipitated withdrawals if taken too soon AFTER opioids. If he takes the Subs BEFORE the Percocet, he should be ok, but he most likely will not feel the effects of the Percs.

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PARAMEDIC: You are so wrong. THE BUPRENORPHINE ITSELF WILL GIVE YOU WITHDRAWALS. I was never on Suboxone, only, Subutex, and I went into HORRIBLE precipitated withdrawals from doing Subutex too soon after opiates. I have posted this many, many times. DO NOT TAKE SUBUTEX TOO SOON AFTER OPIATES/OPIOIDS!!

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Just to also clarify AGAIN AS A FEW HAVE CORRECTLY stated subutex has no naloxone in it so if your using it you can theoretically feel euphoric effects from naroctic analgesics but most likely you wont. The bup in it is stronger than most all opiates out there and over powers it. You will not withdrawal if you cross use these medications. Now suboxone is different and also different with each individual. It will put you in withdrawal and the time for which this happens varies person to person. Best advice is to be in withdrawal before you take it and even better advice is to refrain from opioid use if your taking either. The drug's purpose is to maintain your wellness while detoxing ..or getting off pain killers in some cases where someone has legit chronic pain but has a problem controlling opiate use. It's used for pain management. That's why I use it. It keeps me clean and controls my chronic pain... MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE PEOPLE TAKING THESE DRUGS WITH OPIATES? MAKES NO SENSE. IM NO DR BY ANY MEANS BUT I QUESTION A DOCTOR'S KNOWLEDGE AND SKILL AND ETHICS IF HE IS PRESCRIBING THEM TOGETHER. GOOD LUCK ALL.

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I agree completely with what you said! I had my hip replaced, had to taper off subutex, to start taking narcotics (they WERE needed because of the surgery). But now my pain Dr wants me to STILL take the narcitics (they make me feel CRAPPY) & the pain is mostly controlled with OTC anti-inflammatory meds. I have been tapering off opiates very slowly, but the withdrawals are kicking my butt, especially at night. During the night (last night) I couldn't handle the sweats, jumpy legs, feeling sick, etc. So I took 2 mg if Subutex & it worked like a miracle! I WANT to be off opiates & just get back to Subutex, I feel SO MUCH better on them! I suffer from chronic pain & some may argue that Subutex doesn't help with pain. It helps ME to live a semi-nornal life, narcotic-free!

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You can't take other opioids when on a suboxone program. You can on Subutex. If you take other opiates on Subs it will throw you straight into withdrawal.

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How long does it take after taking half a does of suboxone can I take other opiates?

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You'll be fine. As long as you took the subutex first. Don't do the reverse tho, that's what will get u sick, percs the subs will get you sick because the bupe has a higher affinity for your receptors than oxy does. And then withdrawal occurs because the bupe fits in your receptors but doesn't turn them on like oxy or any other opiate does. Got. It???

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Do it!!! I use to be addicted to pain pills like crazy and ever since I went on subutex I have been my real self. I never had any withdrawals. Just make sure you take enough. The starting dose of subs may be one 8mg pill or strip if suboxone... If you feel sick take another half. Im telling you I love the subs... they take away the withdrawals and the mental cravings. You actually can live a life without obsessing over pills. and it can also help with moderate pain but you wont experience any kind of high.

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I took a piece of a subutex three hours ago and was wondering how long I have to wait to feel a Roxy 30.. I use IV as well

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I had a neck fusion and 2 lower back fusions in the past 8 years. I went on subutex strictly for pain.
I just went to the er for tooth pain that turned into an infection. They gave me 4mg morphine and antibiotics through an IV drip. They sent me home with a prescription for antibiotics and Percocet knowing that I'm on subutex. Can I take both subutex and Percocet?

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I just completed a 21 day detox methadone to switch to subutex,,the doc I just saw 6hrs ago was great,my last dose wase Sunday.Doc also said u can go down to 30mg then wait 48hrs and in substantial withdraws,to get on subutex,or just say u had a severe allergic reaction to suboxen, severe hives and migraines is how I got them over the suboxen.The first day I took 16mgs,t

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Thank u. People shouldn't type anything on this topic when they know nothing. Thank u for spreading truth.

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yes people get this right!!! Subutex is just buprenorphine. It does not have noloxone in it. It will not get u sick if u take it after pain pills. Suboxone will it does have the nalox. Best wishes.

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the oxymorphone your speaking of is also called opana. it's actually really good

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I have been on methadone maintenance for 13 years. Its ruining my life. I can't go anywhere bc I have to go to a clinic everyday. I want to take subutex not suboxone. I scared I will get sick. Im at 52mgs. Someone help me... will I get sick if I take a subutex the next day?????

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Subutex is an opiate and has been prescribed for pain, in the beginning as I was in a bad car accident 5 years ago. Drs suggested I get on methadone. They gave it to me during my 4 week visit, 18 days of it was in a coma then had to go to rehab because my left leg was crushed, every rib I have was broken. They are now clamped together. Ripped my aorta from my heart, dislocated my left shoulder and broke my right hand. Moving from the bed to the chair brought tears to my eyes! They tried bout every pain medicine available. Still in so much pain they tried methadone. It helped me so much! So with my history with drugs but definitely had to have pain meds the Drs suggested I go a methadone clinic. I did after about 2 years. Which during the time I was in and out of pain mgt gettin by best I could. At first it was a miracle! Then it started making me very moody, I was on it 3 years, my 2 sons talked to me and was like you got to do something a friend had a Subutex and I was dope sick really bad he said take half put under your tongue. I was mad, I didn't want a half of nothin of course I b****ed he said I have the other half just give that at least 30 min. But I was convinced it wasn't gonna work. Boy was I wrong! Within 30 min I was comin back alive I got them for few days and my children noticed a big diff in my mood and depression. They said they didn't know what I was doin but to not stop doin it! Lol I've been on it for 8 months now and I'm doin great! The problem with takin other opiates with Subutex. Is that the pain medicine doesn't really work unless you stop your Subutex for about 24 hours. Takin any opiate with Subutex will not make you sick because it doesn't have the drug naloxone which is the blocker that's in suboxone and bunavail. Do not ever take suboxone or bunavail if you have opiates in your system, naloxone strips your body of any opiates. So you better be in some kind of withdrawal before taking either of those drugs. Naloxone is given to ppl that have over dosed on opiates. Some schools are teaching children how to administer a shot of naloxone to someone who has over dosed! That's sad! But taking Subutex with perks or any other opiate should not cause you any problems. God Bless :)

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