Taking Hydrocodone For Depression (Page 14)
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I am wondering if anybody else out there has taken Hydrocodone and noticed that symptoms of depression are alleviated? I find that many of today's anti-anxiety and antidepressant drugs come with unpleasant side effects, whereas while taking Hydrocodone they aren't there. The caveat to all of this is that yes, I know that Hydrocodone and opiates in general can be addictive. So long term use would result in withdrawal symptoms. I'm just wondering who else might agree with me on this?
Yes sincemy PPO ins. has been taken away from me . I have been verbelyl n physically abused by pain mainage ment. i only had hydro for 21/2 years. But my whole family n friend were so exicted for me to finally be able to leave the house ,take better care of my apt.N not have to live with dibilitating inhumane pain every day which was casued alrealdy by our thieving murdering medicide system. I have had to go 17 months now with no pain medication . I keep getting denied treatment because my blood pressure so high i know after 8 yrs of murdering medicaid n happy pills being pushed on me that hydrocodone was the only thing that got my blood pressure down. I have already been diognosed with end of life raidiaton poisionsing because medicaid does not belive in looking at medical records.I would be so relived if i had my hydrocodone back one of my twins is getting ready to graduate with master deggree in teaching. I will not be able to even go to her house much less gradution because of murdering crippling pain im being left in now. I would be one happy Mama if even for a little while i could look good n stand up n be wiht my daughter instead of murderd by cut backs from medicaide thieves
I actually saw a shrink 25 yrs ago who was a MD, with PhD in psychology. He understood the profound affect pain and depression play in how we uniquely process that pain. He agreed that it doesn't matter which one came first and also acknowledged that some respond better to opioids for this reason. Our society would never admit unless they to suffered from this insidious brain disease.
I truly believe for me, that opiates elevate my mood and I no longer feel depressed. This to me is an anti depressant. With all of the antidepressants I have tried as well as the different types of pain medications like Neurontin and Lyrica, that none of these can even compare to the relief from depression that Vicodin and others give. What I think would be a great idea is for doctors to prescribe this type of medication for depression with pain and then carefully, I mean carefully monitor them, to prevent abuse. Maybe they could give a week Rx at a time. Or there could be a class about how to prevent abuse of this type of medication. I can also say that I believe that it is possible to stay on the same dose of an opiate for years and still benefit from the anti- depressant qualities and pain relief. I was on methadone for pain for 3 years, and I took it as prescribed daily for those 3 years and I never developed a tolerance or an addiction. Methadone relieved my pain and my depression 90% of the time for those 3 years. I just hope someone out there in the pharmaceutical research area can find a way to turn this med into an anti-depressant. Please!!!
Pain is pain, emotional or physical. I think they are finding that people with depression process pain differently. If there is a lack of serotonin pain meds work on a different part of your brain. some people might find not feeling is feeling less depressed, others think it gives them energy. Its not a med for depression.
On the flip side pain docs are now trying to use some awful drugs that are in a new or really old class of anti depressants to manage pain. Do they work for some people? yes I can't take Tramadol it has me wired up like a machine others find it works well for pain. Neurontin another one that I hate, others find relief, we are all different. SSRI and pain to me are different, its the same song, just a different dance.
Hi Lucy, sorry to hear you weren't able to try medical MJ. The idea behind the phychologist is twofold. First, reading the cdc guidelines they advise psychological therapy in addition to treatment with opioids. I've been dealing with my issues for 30 yrs and if seeing someone makes things more comfortable for my doctor, as well I do hope to get some positive things for myself. I tend to put on a mask, as most of us do that suffer from cp, and depression. If hydrocodone works the best for you, work with your gp that is willing to help you. I certainly don't want to scare or cause anyone anxiety over these guidelines, however if we understand how they are going to influence our doctors will help us to be proactive.
Jobe, add to prev msg, I called to see if my diagnosis qualified for med marijuana and it's not. That was a let down but I keep pushing. Alieve and Advil is like candy! Can you tell me why ur Dr thinks it's a good idea to speak to a psychologist? Will it help you?
Thank you Jobe! I hope this msg goes thru. But, I'm looking for anything that takes this pain away! I asked my Dr about t4...he stated it wasn't as strong as hydrcodone (Norco). Norco is the strongest. One thing, if it doesn't work, I don't take it.
Thank you Jobe!! I'm looking for ANYTHING that will help this chronic, crazy pain! I had asked my Dr about a year ago if I could take t4.,he said it's not as strong as Norco. Maybe I'll ask him again...believe me Jobe, I've tried everything. I've tried to get medical marijuana but was told by the ppl who approve it stated I don't qualify because they don't see chronic back pain as a need for the marijuana... Very disheartening for me to hear.Advil and Aleive and 800mgs motrin, does absolutely nothing...and for me, if it doesn't work, I don't take i! Best wishes to you also!
I do agree however the withdrawing of hydrocodone is pure hell. Went through it and it took a long time, almost a year of total depression. Being clean and realizing how much better life is without the dependence and big money wasted.......I will never go there again.
You're very welcome, Lucy. Are you looking for over the counter meds, or other narcotic pain medications? I would suggest Tylenol 4 as taking one of those is about equal in pain relief to a hydro 10mg. The benefit to your doctor is it's a schedule 3, so can be called in and not as tightly regulated.
Hi Jobe! I thank you for ur response and I googled opioids...very interesting! It feels like they are trying to control what a patient takes and that's not fair. But I would like to know what can a person take for pain if one runs out of Tramadol and Norco?. Thank you
Roxi don't have tylonile. It pure oxi
In the Opiate Hey Day in UK and America, back in the good old days of Opium Dens run by kin of the oriental railroad workers; you could get opiates for just about everything! There happened to be an unfortunate gent by the name of Mr Thomas I believe. It seems smoking opium got the best of him and he pawned all he had for more. He came to his senses and started a crusade against this evil potion. He grew anxious, irritable, sweaty, achy and other fun symptoms of w/d. His poor daughter noticed how dreadful dad had become and simply said, " it seems that if you are so horrible without it and feel so much better with it, you should do it more often."
Mickey I've done some research and they are doing that. One is a ketamine cousin and others with opiate base also. Google it and use physicians sites also
Hi Mickey, very sorry to hear of your needless suffering. Two thoughts. First, how about searching for a new internal medicine doc??? You interview them. It's not easy and there are ways to increase your chances of finding a compassionate doc. Namely, if you have a good relationship with a pharmacist, you could ask who they might recommend. Not all will provide you with this info but some will. Secondly, have you ever had a benzo (ativan or similar drug) which may help allivate some of those feelings. I hope you can get the help you need. Best wishes
As a physical therapist I can tell you that after treating patients for 3 decades I have never had a patient overdose on NSAIDS. M.D.'s are varied in their viewpoint regarding these types of pain meds. If you research anti inflammatory medications you will find that you must consume a MASSIVE amount of mg's to enter a life threatening situation. However, these drugs do thin the blood, and should you suffer a wound, blood loss is a concern. This is rare. I recently went to the E.R. for pain and received Vicodin and Motrin 800's. I did not require both. Had I taken as prescribed I would have ingested 4,500 mgs of NSAIDS. A far cry from the 12,000 mgs that lead to an overdose. Most M.D.'s are more conservative. For what reason? I have no idea. In most cases we can take anti inflammatory meds on our own as needed. It is the opiate that gives us the pain relief. Is there a problem here? Yes.
So I keep coming back to this hoping someone has created an antidepressant with similar properties to hydrocodone, but nothing. I am like everyone else here, I am on Zoloft and wellbutrin and have no motivation and have no interest most of the time. I have taken a loritab on occasion and I feel good not high but social and happy and extremely motivated, but of course my doctors will not prescribe me any even when I was in pain. I am so tired of being depressed.
I wanted to add that this is going to be a very individual or group practice thing. Of course anyone needing a new doc is better to search for an internal medicine doc instead of a general practitioner. Mine has "suggested" seeing a psychologist in addition to his prescribing, thus I already have an appointment made this coming week, more for his benefits, but I am hoping to get some new skills in dealing with memory decline, anxiety, depression in addition to my cp issues. In reading the new guidelines, this is one of the "suggestions" I've been with my doctor for many years and have a great trusting relationship, however I understand his need to do anything additional to protect himself.
Hi Lucy, back in the late 90's there was a huge push by chronic pain patients and doctors in general to recognize pain as something that should be aggressively treated with what works best for the Patient, especially opioids. They still are required to rate your pain on a scale of 1 to 10. I am providing this history, as all the sudden these experts are saying that is not the way to handle pain. You are smart doing things your prescribing doctor asks you to do. This will allow him /her be able to continue to treat pain. These are only guidelines, but a federal agency especially the cdc holds tremendous power. This is really going to affect the way new docs are trained, not so much those that have been around for 20 yrs. They will make sure that they cover themselves. If you want to read on this just Google 2016 cdc opioid prescribing guidelines. Best wishes
Hi Jobe, can you tell me what other guidelines they have for chronic back pain? I've done and tried everything... From surgery to all kinds of meds. As I said in my earlier note, Tramadol by itself does nothing...its like you have to take 2 or 3 just to get a little relief. However, if I take Norco and Tramadol, it works greatly! And don't run out! It's pure hell...I also have sciatica and Norco gets rid of both of them! My Dr is great and he helps me...he knows the pain Im in. I went to a pain clinic and they told me the pain was in my head! I told them I feel pain in my back and legs, not my head! They tried to give me Balcogen, I took it for a week...did nothing. I went back to Norco. Thanks for listening!
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