Suboxone And Valium

I have been on valium for approximately 12 years for severe anxiety and because of a severe back problems i was also put on percocet for years. Someone told me about suboxone. They said suboxone will help with the pain. So i went to a sub doc and told him i was on valium. He did not give me a U/A till months later. Doc said you are on a benzo. l said is that the valiums? He said yes. I said i told you i was on valium. He said you have to go off them. I was told if i go off my valiums i could have a seizure. I have been off the valium for a week. I am shaking and can't sleep. I feel sick. I was doing great with suboxone and valium. Now i am just sick. Please, someone help me.

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Suboxone is not going to help pain. Suboxone is another addiction. Go to your doctor and tell him/her that you want to get off of the Valium and Suboxone. Good luck.

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Valium is very addictive and it has been said if you take them long enough you will go out the back door with them. Saying, I believe, that your body builds up a tolerance to them and they don't do the job anymore.

I have no idea how to get off from Valium. sounds like your Dr. says cold turkey.

suboxone and Valium is just a quick fix. short term satisfaction and long term destruction. To go further with your life, you have to look for long term help. ???
good luck/

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Remember loose lips sink ships. Dnt tell the dr. Thst you take valium. And sab. Is not for pain.

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You can't, his fault from the beginning. Yet, you are going to suffer.

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I'm so sorry what happening to you . Docs are like that thou , for some reason don't explain to ppl EVRYTHING like they should. Shew smh. Did the doc take u off BOTH or jus the one?!

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Joan, it's been several weeks since you posted this, so I don't know how you're doing. Valium w/d is the worst. I was on 30 mg/day for many years, and then the powers in Washington decided that opiates and benzo's don't get along and cause breathing problems, so my PM doctor was no longer able prescribe them by law. They gave me a 30 day supply to "wean off" of them. Valium builds up in your system, and since it's a CNS depressant, stays in your body for a long time. It's been 95 days since I had a Valium, and I'm feeling about as normal as I'm going to get. I hope you were able to get some relief w/out having to go CT, as I know that sucks. Been there. What I've found recently that helps anxiety is CBD oil, and it's legal to buy. I've never dealt with Subs, but I know some folks stay on it for long periods of time. Anyway, I hope you post something and that you're hanging in there.. You will feel better in time.

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Yes that is true about sub they aren't for pain!! They are a blocker actually

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You cannot quit taking a benzodiazepine cold turkey..period. 2 drugs that can and have killed people due to withdrawal symptoms are benzodiazepines and alcohol. And for goodness sake GET off of the suboxone Asap! No it's not for pain. Methadone is for pain but don't go near that either. Sounds like you've been to a money hungry and uneducated doctor. Do your research!! I will hope that all works out for you.

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Hi Betty. Well it seems that due to all of these addicts who get their hands on pain meds that are Rx'd for legitimate pain & overdosing have convinced the CDC that even us pain patients who've been on pain meds legitimately for YEARS now need to be put in Suboxone. My doctor switched me to it last week. They've convinced the doctors that it can work for pain & sadly my doctor convinced me. It worked great on day 2 & 3. Now not so much. I'm beyond upset. And I'm also on Xanax which is besides the point here..just thought I'd mention it.

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The Dr. that this woman went to is a total *****!!!

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I quit suboxzone cold turkey, beyond so sick I can't describe for 3 weeks, tough it out couple more weeks you'll be over the withdrawals

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Get some Valerian-based verbal tranquilizer, the essential Valerian herbal oil, and you can also use Valerian herbal tablet sleep aids, as Valium is based on the herb Valerian.The herb is not addictive.

You can withdraw from the artificial Valium molecule using that, but you must also use a Valerian essential oil rubbed in your skin, and as essential oils evaporate and don't get properly absorbed, you must use a base oil in addition to that, anything will do, like rub some olive oil on your brow, and then massage in a few drops of Valerian essential oil into that, it does not smell very pleasant, but it will take away the worst of the agony. My massage therapy instructor who I studied use of essential oils under taught me that years ago, and said that using essential Valerian oil alone, she had successfully helped many people to withdraw from Valium.

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Bro that is illegal the dr can't just tell you to get off the benzo he is required by law to taper you off slowly since you have been on them so long, you can have a stroke and go into a seizure it is very dangerous to get off benzos cold turkey! And please if that's what you are doing stop and don't suffer tell your doctor, that it is the law for him to taper you off he can lose his license if he just takes you off of it. I HOPE THAT HELPS AND YOU FEEL BETTER SOON

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Switch from valium to clonazepam (klonopin). It is a benzo also but unless you take a lot it will not appear on lab work.

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Even herbs have draw backs. I would not do that unless I saw a naturalpathic doc who knows about herbal stiff

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I know you're being supportive and helpful but that information won't help. Please seek emergency care asap. Severe benzo abstinence can be fatal and needs to be treated inpatient at a specialized detoxification unit where you can be approximately monitored and evaluated until the titration process is complete. Good luck.

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Valium and suboxone is just quick fixes, or short term satisfaction and long term destruction
. If you want to get better follow the Dr. orders if you like your life being addicted to valium than that is a decision you have to make. good luck

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Wow that has to be true cus i'd been passing drug panels when I take Klonopin, but Xanax will show just about all the time. Idk about Valium.

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WHAT R U THINKING??? U came here looking for help. That was smart. But why didn't u think to look up how to come off of Valium? Go get ur Valium. Take a nibble. Drink warm water. When u start feeling weird again (hot flashes, shakes, dizzy, fast heart beat) take another nibble of the pill. That's how u come off any drug. Ur doctor didn't tell U how??? If he didn't he doesn't know what he's doing. U have to come off this drug slowly.

At this point since u don't want to be on them anymore, ur goal is no longer relief from muscle spasms. Now ur goal is to get off Valium without hurting too much or killing yourself by accident.
So this means, ur going to get about 3 nibbles maybe 2 off of each pill. People think the withdrawal starts right away. It does. But it gets worse and worse after the first 5 days. As more time goes by u have less and less in ur system. But u can't go cold turkey like that. So at this point ur a week off. Those little nibbles should give u decent relief for a few hours at a time. Not perfect. But it will make it easier. Do that for about another 5 days. But try and let more and more time go between nibbles and less each week.

I would find another dr. If this doctor didn't tell u how to get off this, he is a dangerous person.
While u r coming off this drug, u are going to have all sorts off muscle pain and spasms. Worse than why u went on them in the first place.

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Yes you need to get back on valium. I dnt know you went from perkoset to sab. For pain cuz sab. Is not for pain its to help you get off perks. So wat i would do is do wat works get back on the valium and perks. And never stop and meds just like that.

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Re: Trissy32 (# 7)

Actually Suboxone is a pain killer and is available in patches which are placed on the affected area.

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Don't just stop Valium you are in danger of a seizure you have to reduce slowly.

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Re: SheriAmore (# 55)

The naloxone creates a ceiling effect to prevent respiratory failure due to the suppression effect of narcotics and opiods, so it's very difficult to overdose on Subaxone unless abused which isn't related to those responsibly treating their chronic pain issues.

I get the concern by physicians about mixing the diazepam with the sub because of the depressive reaction in the body, but also if they are regulated and monitored by pain management or a physician that works with the patient like I have going on, there are no problems with death due to respiratory failure.

When another pain management clinic had me dosed up on morphine and dilaudid there were times I was afraid to sleep because of fear I wouldn't wake up the next day. I took myself off all that crap, found a great family physician who listened and worked with me, put me on Suboxone strips, allowed me to stay on a small dose of valium for sleep and my body healed enough that a maintenance dose gives me dignity and quality of life. One things I do appreciate with my new doctor is that he requires the label to state that the subaxone is treating chronic pain so there is no stigma of drug abuse connected to it

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Re: Kat (# 1)

Not true
I am a chronic pain patient in Pain Management and use subaxone for spinal and nerve pain. I've been on opiods of all kinds and this is so much better for me and I also use a low dose of valium to offset tremors and muscle spasms from black mold contamination which caused neuromuscular damage Its been a godsend.

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I don't understand why they haven't tapered you slowly down instead of forcing you to withdraw You are correct about triggering seizures if abruptly stopping your regular doses.I went off Ativan and on Valium about 5 years ago to counteract black mold symptoms that wreaked havoc on my nervous system I never took more than 6 mg a day and now use 1/2 mg at night for sleep,but tapered myself at my own pace I recently signed on with a pain management doctor who put me on subaxone for chronic pain and I use 1-2.5mg daily strip He was not concerned with me using the valium at the dosage my body has used all these years.In my case, He trusted me and knows I am knowledgeable about drugs,addiction and interactions Even with me being in my late 60's the benefit outweighs the risks
I've tried stopping the valium as well,but the tremors and stiffness return to the point that my body seizes up and I can't function normally. I think you may want to search fit for a more proactive doctor and see if they will work with you instead of projecting their own protocols onto you .I have been where you are and it's torture
Best of luck to you

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Re: Trissy32 (# 7)

No sub is buprenorphine which is an Opioid analgesic meaning painkiller. yes it's a pain killer it started with TEMGESIC

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Dallad (# 12) --

Yeah I quit cold turkey and I thought after 3. Days I be good . WRONG I was in and out hospital for 3 mouths I thought I going to die ,so I back onSub's I also take Klonopin I'm tramper slow so why fix on problem just to still have the the it anxiety.?

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I am on xanax & hydrocodone. My pain management Dr. said I have to give up one or the other. It's so stupid, because I don't take them at the same time anyway. My primary Dr. gave me a drug called buspirone 5mg, to help me get off the xanax. Of course I hated that, but it really helped, to my surprise! Maybe it can help you get off the valium. Good luck.

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Joan, why don’t you turn up at the emergency dep saying your life could be at risk and explain to them why, and tell them you need help ASAP. They have to help you, even just to put you in someone’s special care. When I was in the hospital a few months ago there was a man in the next bed to me, it was an assessment ward, I was there because of PE. He was allowed to be walking around freely. I asked him why was he there and he said he had anxiety problems and was in and out when he needed help. That's why I’m suggesting maybe you could do the same. Help to get off these Valium or any others. I got off antidepressants by cutting them down bit by bit. Another suggestion, always go to the pharmacist for information, not the GP. They don’t know about dosages, they only prescribe the medications. You don’t have to suffer these side effects. Go to google too, to the government & medical health pages and read everything about these medications. Then go to the pharmacist.

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Re: James (# 56)


Thank you James!! You clarified the Naloxone question. I too, am taking it for Chronic Pain & it's working better than I thought it would. Because alot of the Pain Community is so against it, I didn't know if it would work as well as the other opiate meds I've been on over the MANY years. Actually, for me, it's working even better! Thanks again~

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