Suboxone 8mg/2mg And Roxicodone 30's (Page 6)
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I am currently taking Roxicodone 30's each day. I have suboxone 8mg/2mg to help get off of these. I know the suboxones are the best pill made to help with the withdrawals but I'm wondering if for the firsrt 3 to 5 days when I'm having trouble sleeping and feeling clammy, if i should take like half of a Roxicodone 30 (which i have done in the past), as it helps me to sleep and takes away the clammy feeling? Any other suggestions that you may have? Thanks to anyone answering this for me.
Hey I'm starting my detoxification today yet i have 5 2mg subs somethings for muscle relaxation throwing up anxiousness soma for sleep and I'm really scared i can't stop worrying
hey everyone, i live in north hollywood california, and i am just sick and tired of using H, i dont even know how i got on this crap! ( i do, its a long story, that started with a car accident and vicodin prescription) and now been using H for past 3 years.. can anyone please help me!??? i would love to get ahold of some suboxones.. even if i can get 3 - 4 i know i would be able to quit... i work 6 days a week and there is absolutely no way that i can do it cold turkey.. i would look like s*** and everyone would know somethings up... please please please, can someone out here please help point me in the right direction?? i have cash, but i dont think i can afford an entire script.. i dont even know where to begin??
Hi there, I am currently hooked up blues (30s) or actually anything similar that I am able to get.(perc, vic whatever...) I take them orally and not all at once, the most I have ever taken is half a blue at a time. I started a couple years ago when my now ex fiance's mom would give me 10/325 perc for pain (TMJ) I had gone to many Drs and specialists to help me with my jaw but no one really helped. I was given SOMAs but all they did was make me sleepy, didn't do much for my jaw pain. So once I was given a perc I LOVED IT! if anyone is reading this and thinking about starting or trying to get off, DON'T DO IT TO BEGIN WITH. My guy & me would get maybe four to six 10/325 percs from his mom a week, (we would split the amount) so it wasn't "that much" for each of us (then again when you don't take them often, your tolerance is lower & you feel that buzz quicker) and we always said we would never do them more than couple times a week/anymore than she gave us. (By the way, she knew why she gave them to us, she gave them first to me for pain then to both of us just to "have a little fun"..anyway, we NEVER did more than she gave & stuck to our agreement as we did not want a problem depending on them.. well he left & moved out one day while I was at work, I came home to find all of his stuff gone. As you can imagine I was devastated, and I've never been one to deal with reality well. IE: I have anxiety which I went to therapy for (prn xanax low dose) and I just internalize everything bad that happens or bothers me. So once he left, I knew that there was no more percs..which sucked cause at that moment, that is all I wanted to do. So after I picked up the pieces of my heart, canceled the wedding venue, cleaned up the apartment etc..I sought out someone(actually my cleaning lady) who I had heard her say once she was "high" so I asked her next time she came what she did & where she gets from? She was on A LOT of stuff but she did have pills and knew where to get...THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE END.
Lets cut to the chase, It is now 8 months later approx & I CANNOT go a day w/o taking something, otherwise I feel sick or start to sweat chills etc...Now many of you may say well just go thru w/d and get it over with..here's the tricky part..remember how I said I internalize EVERYTHING, well..no one knows I have this problem, not family, work, friends...NO ONE..except the people I ask to see if they have or know where I can get. Every thought in my head is..am I going to run out? Where can I get? When am I going to be able to do it...So I work Monday-Friday & cannot take days off or miss..I can't go thru w/d's as I have to go to work and "be normal". I'm so sorry this is a long post, but I'm venting/asking for advice & help..this is the first time I've said ok, I'm addicted..and yet mentally I still don't think I believe it.. physically I DO! besides being scared and having bad timing for going thru w/d's...I AM SICK OF WORRYING & STRESSING WHERE TO FIND MORE, SCARED OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN & TIRED OF WASTING MONEY ON A STUPID F***IN PILL!!!! I shake my head when I think about the amount of money I have wasted..I am lucky enough to have a good job & loving family, however I could NEVER tell them what is going on with me as it would honestly rip them to pieces..I have no objection to therapy, I welcome it. I've gone to it in the past and loved it..I just actually stopped typing for a minute so I could go cut a blue in half to take it..FML, I live alone since my fiance moved out, we had 4 cats, (rescued/adopted) one passed away in March which was WORSE mentally then my guy leaving..all of these things make me want to NOT feel anymore, I am so sad. So rehab is out, as I can't take days from work & I need a weekend in order to "detox" or w/d, which again...I'm doing this solo. I realize not the best scenario but I don't know what else to do. I've never had a problem with a substance before like this..I googled Drs in my area the other day & it took my about 3 days to get the nerve to call and make an appt, but I had been reading about Suboxone and stories on the internet, etc..today is Sat, and I DID actually go yesterday afternoon to see the doc & was given a Rx for the Subs. HOWEVER the tricky part is...the w/d time prior to starting the Subs. I was told by my doc that he uses the "30 hour" rule. So (as of last night) I thought I took what was my last pill, (I was wrong) but I said to myself ok, you have until Sat night 10pm which will be 24 hrs..(Doc said after 21 hrs I would be ok to take the Subs since my pill dose was "low" for addicts. yay me ha. :( so I went until 3pm today and I couldn't do it..17 hours and I failed..I cut a tiny piece of the pill off so I wouldn't feel like poo. I must admit, compared to what I have read about w/d's..I don't think what I was feeling was super bad. Mild RLS, chills sweats DEF anxiety (and I have xanax but again, if I was trying to start Subs then my doc & I've read NOT to take BENZOs as it can cause respiratory problems as major as death in sleep, I DON'T WANT TO DIE) and I wasn't sure how long a xanie would stay in my system so I chose not to take one or two ha to help with the anxiety.
Tomorrow is Father's Day & again, I have to go somewhere & "pretend to be normal" (during these times I take the smallest, almost dust like amount to just not go into w/d's while doing what I have to do-the half pill doesn't get taken til I am home & know I don't have to go anywhere else for the night.) So here lies the problem, never mind my addiction is a problem in itself! But I CANNOT go thru w/d long enough to start Subs until 2 weekends from now! Unfortunately there's tomorrows plans & next weekend same thing, family commitment, so I only have 10 30's left and usually it's been about one and a half to two 30's a day/(mostly nighttime before bed) so in 5 days I'll be out. Obviously I am going to try my hardest to make them last at least until next weekend, so if I HAD to cancel plans I could, wouldn't be ideal but I guess it's doable. but I'd rather find more to last me until couple wkends from now & then be able to try again with w/d enough hours to start the Subs. I got a blood Rx to go get diagnostics, which I am doing this week..and I've spoken to the pharmacist about how to take the Subs..its just getting started is the problem and from what I've read...many others have had issues as well. Precipitated w/d's are a HUGE FEAR!..seems they vary in hours lasted and how bad. They scare me terribly. There's really no one I can have come over to hang with me to help keep me away from the urge & the actual 30 so I don't take it. This had been I'm sure the longestttttt post in history on here lol but it felt good to vent a little but especially since not even my friends no what it going on with me. That's the other thing about being an addict, when I say all that goes thru my head is when can I use enough to get a lil buzz..it's true. I've skipped nights out with my girls, parties, family events, beach time etc..you name it and I've come up with an excuse not to go or to try & remain home where I felt "safe" and in my "unhealed mind" me being alone, then no one can hurt me again. My boss actually is a recovering alcoholic, sober 20+ years now & she is a HUGE part of my life, not only a boss but a friend & 2nd mom (my mom lives in FL past 9 years since my parents split) and my dad lives 7 mins away from me up the road with my step mom ha. but my boss is a great lady & would probably understand what I am going thru mentally, emotionally & physically etc.. but I CANNOT let her know what's going on, I'm so ashamed, sad, alone..and many other things. She is the one person who would probably get the most what's going on but I refuse to disappoint her. There's been a few people who have said to me over the past 8 months, OH..you've changed. You seem different, I want the old you back..and I guess the "fiance moving out while I was at work" was a good 'cover' for what's been really going on with me. I am crying typing the end of this. I'm tired & buzzed since that half of a 30 has now kicked in. I've lost myself & who I was and I don't know what to do about finding me again. I guess going to the Dr was a good start, but I need to start the Subs as I think this is my only chance to get off the pills, and try to become half the person I was a long time ago..if there is ANYONE who has advice, stories, etc please share!!!!! this was the first time I've written ANYTHING like this down in black and white, it's a little scary to be honest...anyway, wish me luck trying to make it until a couple weeks from now & beginning the Subs. I hope I don't go into precipitated w/d god I am so nervous about that..if it does happen? can I take extra Subs to make it go away? How long will it last? How bad will it be? so many things going thru my mind, again I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE HERE...WHAT SEEMED LIKE A LITTLE 'HARMLESS' FUN & WAS 'UNDER CONTROL' (2 TIMES WEEKLY) A COUPLE YEARS AGO...HAS NOW TOTALLY TAKEN CONTROL OVER ME & MY LIFE.
Thanks so much again. Good luck to anyone trying to do the same as me or trying to remain clean and you've already been able to get off whatever you DOC may have been...
Sincerely,
Kitty Mama.
Hi BC, Not sure what your asking. Are you wondering if an 8mg sub will be enough to detox you off the oxys? If so then it,s probably not enough. What you could try is to cut it up in quarters. You need to wait until your in withdrawal. If you don,t you chance going into whats called a precipitated withdrawal and believe me, you don,t want that to happen. Wait at the very least 12hrs. 16-18hrs would be better.
Try taking one of those quarters (2mg) My sub dr. says not to drink, eat or smoke for around 15mins before and after taking. Put it under your tounge and don't talk for 5-10mins until it disolves.
After 20-30mins you should be feeling better. You might have to take another quarter but if you really don,t need it than don't. The next day try taking a little less and so on. Subs are very strong. You can cut the strips into tiny pieces and still get relief. As far as taking pills after, it,ll take awhile before you will feel them. Sometimes several days. They will still help somewhat for pain but you won't get any buzz off them. Good luck.
I do believe your message is very on point and real, I have been taking a lot of pain medication due to pain from female problems, surgeries and then breast cancer surgeries chemo and radiation. I have tried to ween off which I have but still take 3-4 30 mg Percs a day for pain (my body is naturally addicted) so I ran out and my gurl hooked me up w an 8mg suboxine do you think that's enough? And when can I go back to pills if I have to?
I took a little over a half a sub this morning at 9, how long will it be til I can feel a perocet? Really need to know/ thanks very much.
You would just be wasting the 30's because of the blocker that are in the Sub's
Yes you can take it! You are taking a low dose of perc, I was on 500mg plus habit ! I would use at night and be able to take a sub in the am! If you feel like you are starting withdrawls then yes you are ready! But if you are not in withdrawls do not take it yet! But as recommended from dr 24 hours is what they want! But you know your body !
To lino1759 and others: You are asking: I want to stop using drug, when should I take SUBOXONE?
Timing depends on you. You take at the time that you START TO FEEL SIGNS OF WITHDRAWAL. For some of us, 12 hours after last fix. For some of us, 8 hours after last fix. For even some of us who are special, 4 hours after last fix. Why? Only you know when you start feeling like you need to take more of your fix (Your fix could be H, percocet, oxycodone....) only you know how long your fix lasts and only you know how soon you need your fix again. The KEY is: when you START TO FEEL the suffering because you need your next fix, that is the time to take SUBOXONE. Why? You need to understand that SUBOXONE has 2 drugs inside. 1 of them (buprenorphine part of SUBOXONE) will go to your brain and grab the receptor and stimulate a little so you will not suffer. Because SUBOXONE will HOLD ON AND STIMULATE the same receptor you use for your fix (PERCOCET or OXYCODONE....), the receptor will not accept anything else. If you take SUBOXONE too soon, you will waste your PERCOCET or OXYCODONE. Why? Once SUBOXONE grabs the receptor, SUBOXONE will stick to receptor for a while, PERCOCET or OXYCODONE will not have a receptor to grab and give you effect. That's why if you take SUBOXONE too soon, you will waste your fix. Good luck and continue this path please....Thank you very much in advance.
Hey lino, I,d wait at least 15 hrs. You don,t want to chance precipitated wds.
im going through the same thing you went through right now and my question is its been 13 hours since I've had a percocet can I take some of this 8 milligram an-415 peach suboxone without it putting me through withdrawals?? I have been doing percocets for 2 years 100 to 150 milligrams a day and like I said my last opiate when yesterday at 8 o'clock p.m. it is now 2 o'clock p.m. The next day and I have not had an opiate but I'm going through withdrawals ????
Good for you getting clean. Are you still clean?
Hi I am on three strips a day I have been for awhile now your body gets used to it but if your tired when you wake up don't take it right away it will make you more tired wait a little while I take one in am one in afternoon and one at night you should always try and take it at the same time of day I have a fast metabolism so for me after the eight hrs I have to take it right away that's just me with any drug it takes time getting used to and at first they tend to make you alittlr hyper for me they wake me up everyone is different I'm 36 and have been battling this since my 20s we are all used to that feeling we get from what ever drug we used and now we don't feel that we feel real emotions n reality it's hard and a battle for life if after some time you don't feel right talk to your doctor about it be honest about everything there are pros n cons with the subs good luck
Hi Toomanyyears, 3 strips a day is a lot. Thats 24mgs. If your cutting them in half or 1 and half strip a day is 12 mgs. Thats what my sub dr. started me on for a 500-600mg a day roxy habit. I,m no dr. but 24mg/day is a high dose. Just because subs don't make you feel high there still a very strong med. It takes a few days at first to get used to them. Whatever dose you decide to take you should stick with same dose for awhile so your body can adjust to it. Don't jump around with dose levels. I,ve found it best to take whole dose first thing in morning.
I just started subs today. I was very nervous to even try, but I just want my life back. I'm not even sure who I am anymore. The doctor prescribed me 8/2 3 times a day!!! Not knowing anything about it I thought it sounded like a lot. I've taken my first dose and I cut it half...so 4 mg...I feel somewhat foggy but now I'm getting extremely anxious. I took it 3 hours ago. Any advice? Are you still on them? Thank you. II'm just looking for someone to talk to that understands this.
Please help....is there a way to chat of line with you? This is my first day of this and could use someone to talk to.
Help! I need insight please.
I'm not sure if anyone still posts on here but it's worth a shot...I used to have a problem with painkillers. A pretty big problem actually..I couldn't get out of bed without insufflating something, lost 20lbs, spent 1000s of dollars etc etc. ..last July I decided I couldn't live my life chasing pills and living dollar to dollar anymore, so I began taking subs. Not through a dr. But on my own. I convinced myself that give it a month or two id be normal again. Well 8months later and I'm not....I know it hasn't been that long but this is taking longer than I planned and I would love some advice.....I only take about 2mgs of an 8mg strip a day. Sometimes less. And I only take it when I start to feel I need to. Clamy, eyes tearing down my face, hard to swallow feeling, legs and arms hurt etc.....when I do take it it's usually early in the morning then I go back to sleep and wake up feeling 100%....my concern is am I taking it wrong? And if I stop cold Turky how long will I suffer terribly? I usually last 20-24 before I have to take another 2mg. Thanks to anyone who responds.
I'm smoking 8 grams of brown a day, how do I start using the suboxone, to get of the other stuff, like do I start an hour a day and how many milagrams do I need ?
Hi lisa, when I first got off oxys and switched to suboxone, I felt. Tad but depressed, I wasn't getting the effects from suboxone that I was getting from pills! My body went into slow down mode and my mind do to as well, I felt like this is not going to work for me, this is not strong enough, I felt like I wasn't going to be able to do the simple tasks of doing laundry and taking a simple shower, it was awful, I don't know if I was depressed or just lazy and pissed suboxone wasn't doing the trick like everyone said it would! After 2 weeks on subs I felt a drastic change, I was able to live a normal life, with out feeling lazy and low, I am not sure how depressed you are feeling, but it's true in all drugs you suddenly stop, all drugs can cause a mild depression to an extrem depression when you stop using , suboxone is suppose to help you not get sick and help you threw your detox, or be there every day for you if that is the route you are going, I'd def talk to your dr about the depression an maybe consider a light anti depression med if the depression has not subsided, I am usually against all this pills that drs throw at you, but I do believe if you need them for a short time to get ur brain re wired then what's the harm!!
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