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Has anyone else experienced sleep paralysis accompanied by hallucinations since starting viibryd? I have been on the medicine for about 4 months now and for the last 2 1/2 months have had several very scary episodes of sleep paralysis... I have never been on a anti-depressant before and never experienced sleep paralysis until i started this medicine. I am a 23 year old female and i take no other meds except a daily multi-vitamin. Ive noticed that if i accidentally miss a viibryd pill i have sleep paralysis... but have also had it on occasions of not missing a pill. It occurs about once a week... its to the point where i dread going to sleep at night in fear of sleep paralysis, but the hallucinations that come along with it are what I dread the most. Has anyone else had a similar experience with this medicine?
Tim,
Did you read the article I posted in the beginning of this thread? It kindof helps understand SP. I was really glad to find it!!
I don't know how long yall have been on this med. It has done such awesome things for me that my whole life has changed.
Now....since I did have the SP before Vii, I knew about it, but the Vii definately made it worse.....but after a few months it dwindled down. And I still keep my hand on or close to my dog....lol...It really does help!!
Hope all of you get to feeling better....maybe after a while it will go away...Kind of doubt it since it does seem to be a side effect, but if the med is doing good for you other than that, hopefully after being on it a while, it will slow down.....Xanax works for me...
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Unbelievable!!! How is this happening!? One story after another here. And with your story, I do remember during one of the 1st SP attacks after being on 40 mg. for 5? mos. I too felt like I was raped. I've joked around before about Viibryd having some sort of Viagra component. 'That' only lasted the initial 30 days on the med. though. But there is something really 'off' w/ this medication that it is affecting our brains enough to put us into a trance & then into a horrific sensory overload. The more stories I read here, the more concerned I get. What if there is long term damage? I am still very new to anti-depressant med. I was put on Zoloft 4 yrs. ago. I never had major issues. Then I tried Prozac for a few weeks & was too sleepy. I am so thankful that I haven't had the brain explosion sensations or dizziness while only taking 20 mg. But yesterday & today I felt my jaw do a weird twisty turn motion that hurt! And my jaw still hurts. Different subject, but w/ side effects, I think I was clenching my jaw on Viibryd & didn't realize it. I began having tooth pain, saw the dentist, he noted it was from clenching my jaw. A few of my teeth have ridges that developed within the past year, which is damage from clenching! My recommendation to everyone is to start weaning really slowly off this medication. And avoid Effexor, because I guess it's similar? (per neurologist). My neurologist did say I could take up to 4 (.25) Xanax while weaning off Viibryd, but the most I've taken is 2. I hate that I need medication. :( My ADD is worse since going down to 150 mg. of Wellbutrin. Feeling so unfocused lately. So back to SP. At what point do we speak up & let Forest Lab. know our SP symptoms?
I never have had such a horrible night. I did not even know about SP until now. I Googled "Hallucinations - Viibryd" and came upon your thread. I cannot explain the horrific feeling of not being able to move or wake up while feeling molested over and over again. Each time I would go back to sleep, it was like the nightmare continued and i would return to some new situation where this creature would molest me and i could not move or cry out even though I was aware I was trying to wake up but could not. It feels like drowning but you are not underwater. I have been taking 40 mg Viibryd in the morning w/ food for the past 3 mos. w/ only the side effects of some nausea and diareha in the first weeks. I noticed some nausea returned the last few days.
Thank you so much for your kind words and so glad I helped ease your mind. I somehow successfully have weaned down to 20 mg. I just break the 40 in half. But a few nights ago, I so much as took tiny bit smaller half of the pill (maybe 15 mg!?) and while in my almost there sleep state, I felt the heavy wave of terror of sleep paralysis & mind control of some evil!? creature trapping me in my head/neck/shoulders. Arms constricted, my anger over the situation (there is no peaceful way to break out of it--it just takes time...and like 20 mini attacks of SP in 30-60 min?!) I began to hollar out internally, but it should have been externally...and am sure I do mutter some sounds as I can feel my husband shift in bed, but helpless, he isn't aware of the horrific cycle of nerve wracking horror that my body is enduring. But again, unlike nightmares, when it's over, I am relieved and sleep. F'ing Viiibryd. I haven't taken my 5 mg. of Ambien in a few nights, but since other's are having SP & not taking Ambien, it's probably in my best interest to take it. Goodnite! Sleep well everyone! :) PS--my dr. is fully aware of what i've been going thru...and he had his own personal blog about this med! I'll be seeing him soon.
I'm so relieved to read your post I could cry. I had dealt with this for the past 4 months and just finally had to stop taking the viibryd or I was going to end up in a loony bin. You described the SP so well as its so hard to put it into words. I felt like everyone I told including my doctor thought I was nuts. Thank you and I hope you are doing well'
Oh yes, the wonderful POP feeling in our heads from Viibryd. I seemed to have that only after trying to wean for the 2nd time. But it was off an on again & happened when I was due for the med. and sleepy. Like I said before, I had multiple PoP feelings and then once it felt like my kids threw a softball at my forehead, but of course it was just an awful pop sensation. So after all that, I said enough, & went back to 40 mg. for several mos. I was also having sleep paralysis & episodes of feeling frozen in my chair...tired at night, but my brain wasn't able to scream loud enough to my body to be able to just get out of the chair & take the Viibryd. I noticed that switching my dose to bedtime was a curse, but also eventually became a blessing. Because I was having all the bad side effects at 40 mg. on & off again, but I did start to feel more in control of this nasty drug. Yes, the sideways to the left sude of my head static wave feeling stopped, so that has been a blessing, but I've also been successfully able to wean down to 20 mg. at night. And the reason why 'I' recommend night, is because then I don't deal with any discontinuation symptoms at night. It seems that with SSRI's & sleep, there is usually a conflict. Hallucinations, etc. But with Viibryd & having such a short half life (not even long enough to keep a gnat 'feeling content' during their 1 day?! life cycle) I don't take any more chances. The drug is f'ed up & people need to start writing to the FDA. There are too many people out there today gnawing other people's flesh to assume that it's bath salts. Perhaps they are on Viibryd? (along with illegal drugs)!!! Debating on if I want to switch to 20 mg. or go off completely. Worried side effects will come back if off completely. Talk about a drug that keeps everyone hooked!
I was wondering what that was called. I have been having these episodes since being on the 40mg of Viibryd. I will lay down to go to sleep and feel pressure in my head and see a flash of light and hear a pop sound. The other night, when I had the episode, I felt like I couldn't move my body and had to force myself to move my arm and say something out loud. Scary. I really want to wean off of this horrible medicine. I hope that you are doing better.
Doctors know about sleep paralysis....I told my doctor, not in detail....that I have had it forever and that I have read that Vii caused it...She said really, she didn't know it and wrote it down...lol..
I know how awful it is and scarey...don't really like to talk about it cause it scares me to death!!! For years I thought the devil was talking to me....glad to know what it is now!!! Good luck!!!
Googling that now. With SP can one stop breathing? This is fascinating to me. I just always thought it was some way the angels are trying to take me, after surviving cancer. I then began to worry a few mos. ago that taking Ambien (even 5 mg) was dangerous. There are probably not enough studies done to show that it's safe to take Vii, Ambien, 1 (.25) xanax (at the same time or hours earlier) & then Wellbutrin earlier in the day. I only started to take Vii at night, because I noticed the 'feeling' dozy 20 min. after taking. So what I do to combat my insomnia now, so I don't take Ambien is I will quickly get up to bed & try not to talk, if my husband is still up. I am frequently still up until 3am and up at 7:20am. Trying to force myself to get to bed before 12:30am, but it's tough. I like my quiet time at night, but need at least 6.5 hrs. of sleep. So sorry you've had the suffocating feeling too. Weird. Shaking head. Almost afraid to tell my Dr.
Wow....I am SO amazed at how many of us have experienced the same exact things! Even the feeling like something is running around on your bed (to the other poster) makes me feel so much better. I was beginning to think my house is haunted by a devilish child. eeks. The only positive thing about 'SP' is in typical nightmares I would wake up, feeling scared out of my frikking mind, but glad it was just a dream and in SP, once I fully snap out of it, it's over. No lingering feelings of feeling scared. But the 1st time it happened, I knew it was a withdrawal of either the Wellbutrin or the Viibryd (this was back in Dec. when I tried to wean off Viibryd for the 1st time). But my neuro. said it's discontinuation syndrome. And so ever since Dec. it's like my brain is extra sensitive to the every 24 hr. cycle (because of it's short half life?) whereas with the Wellbutrin, I could go days w/o noticing anything...but less anxiety. Not that I rollercoaster myself on these meds. much, but in constant monitoring on how I am feeling at all times of the month. I need Wellbutrin to help with my foot neuropathy pain from chemo., plus it's easier to get out of bed in the am. And from what I saw days ago, it helps with PMS. So it has a regulating effect on my happiness. But often times at the expense of feeling 'flat' & expressionless, when I truly am such a bubbly person & overly accomodating to all...but am very sensitive too & I try not to take things personally. Viibryd helped me (since Aug. '11) want to do things around the house. I think Wellbutrin makes my OCD tendencies a little worse, but who wouldn't want a cleaner home? :) After 30 days, my libido tanked. But of course, with SSRI like meds (even though Vii is different) it's like 'who cares' and same goes with sneaking in a few treats here and there. So up went the weight. I lost 30 lbs. on homeopathic hcg from may-july 2011 & beginning in august....proceeded to pack on 40 lbs. thanks to holiday chocolate! But many say since the Vii. affects stomach acids/intestinal whatever? that the lbs. tend to accumulate in the tummy region. But I do think Viibryd does miracles with mood, because off of it I want to pack my bags and get the hell out of the State I live in (not really from here) & with Vii, I am CONTENT. And for those who need help with depression, contentness is much like inner peace. But man alive, don't mess with the dosage or the brain zaps & 'SP' rear it's ugly head. I'll be keeping you all posted. I did have a few episodes last nite, short ones, and I 'thought' my husband was moving me, because I 'thought' I was yelling out for HELP, but wasn't. It's just the screaming in my own head, vividly making it sound like I am hearing something, and the whole body sensations. I was hours late in taking my Vii. I know, I should know better, but for other relationship issues, I tried to just go to bed because I was pretty upset. I got up at 5:45am, took 2 (.25) xanax & vii. & slept fine. And YES....holding a dog helps! I am going to try that tonite. I think I posted about that before...that a few weeks ago after a bad episode, my husband put our dog in my arms. I instantly felt fine & the in and out SP attacks stopped coming. :)
Maria,
Other than the sleep paralysis, does Vibryd do anything good for you? In reply 1, I placed a an article about sleep problems and also shared a little of my story. Although I have had this way before Vibryd, it was worse in the beginnnig of taking this med.
I understand how you feel about the hallucinations!! It is awful!!! I used to think I was nutso til I read about sleep disorders/sleep paralysis. I have also had things happen that you could make a movie about and no one would ever believe you saw and felt all those crazy things!!! Things running over my bed...ect...
I have a question. I read that if a person touches during the episodes that it would get you out of it. Has your husband tried to wake you? The last one I had I got up and walked around, cause everytime I moved to another position I would start going back into it...Then I slept with my arms on my dog and slept great!!!
You aren't alone in this and I am soooo sorry the med is doing this to you! They are sooooo scarey!!! It is soooooo real!!!
Anyway, the reason I asked if it is helping you other than that is because the longer you are on it the better it gets. My dreaming isn't even the same...I was having vivid dreams that I could changed at will...lol...but gosh so glad that has gone away!!
Oh...and looking at pics and worrying about it does make it worse...I know it is hard not to worry...believe me!! But it is best to do something positive before bedtime. Maybe read your Bible since it can keep you calmed down.....
I feel your pain! This med is horrible! I also had the lack of oxygen thing happen to me! I was dozing off for a nap and everytime I would start to fall asleep I would feel short of breath and have to make my body breathe ! I feel like if I would have fell asleep completely I would have stopped breathing! Absolutely terrifying... so finally after enduring this horrible sleep paralysis with hallucinations, the brain zaps, and the breathing thing I have decided to get off of this medicine! I'm down to 20mg from 40 and so far ive had no sleep paralysis from decreasing thank God! Have definitely noticed a increase in vivid dreams but they haven't been scary... I do wake up tired though! Overall, I would rather be depressed than on this medication!!!
need to take my 40 mg. dose before the creepy nightmare sensations take over -pretty much while I am awake. What happens when I am late, is if I so much as doze off, I get mentally 'stuck.' And it will take me from 10 min. to 1 hr. to just do what my brain is reminding myself to do. It's different than just 'feeling sleepy & feeling lazy' & not wanting to get up. So as I posted last time, I am still taking 40 mg. Viibryd, because once I got down to the 5 ?mg. dose, I caved and took it. All based on a nightmare of course. Thanks Viibryd. It screws with your head. My neurologist said it's like Effexor. I had that BAD experience when a pharmacist 'accidentally' gave me Effexor instead of Wellbutrin. I am also back on 300 mg. of Wellbutrin. I was crazy irritable 2 days before AF/TOM (whatever you call it :). Huh. I had thought the Viibryd took away the PMS. So I don't want to freak you out or anything, but I had the scariest frikking sensations during sleep paralysis last week. Movie directors should be calling me. LOL. Ok...so this is what happened. I got into bed. Pretty quickly, I started to feel that 'upper body turning into a hardened shell' feeling. Also vibration like, the back of my neck stiffens up, my stomach is tight, and instantly I think OH NO and I seemed to be able to snap out of them if I caught it quickly enough 'last nite', but last week..no way. I must have went into sleep paralysis 'episodes' about 50 times. It's exhausting. So along with the 'seeing' the room, feeling mummified, there's that awful feeling like there is a creature from hell running around my room. Last night I heard running footsteps. My husband heard nothing. Last week, during one of the worst episodes, I had finally had enough of trying to NOT fall back into sleep paralysis...I try to stay relaxed....I try to grind my teeth together....I try to shout for HELP...but all I can do is make sounds like 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeee' (or whimpering, like when my dog has a nightmare!) And I had told my husband the 'SP' (abbrev.) was BACK. So he heard me whimpering out loud and did nothing! But I did tell him that he wouldn't be able to move me. I am pretty certain that my arms hold stiff. Kind of afraid to try it. So anyway, so DONE with this BS, I tried something else. I mentally decided a scary twist on the scary images that I was seeing, and I said 'in my head' to 'get out of my body!!!!!' and that's when everything felt like pulling and tugging and chaos for a few seconds...yes it was intense... & scary and it gets worse....I had FELT a scary creature JUMP inside my upper body and I was laying face to face with my husband---& for a split second, his warm breath on my face was the creatures warm breath--freaky. Then I announced 'to get out of me' again and I felt my soul? being pulled forcefully out of my body, BUT I wasn't having it and I had to fight back and mentally hold on. WTH is all that? SO THEN...yes it gets worse....the f'in creature feeling ran to the side of my bed and then slapped it's frikking alien claw like hands back and forth at the end of my bed, hitting my feet!!! I FELT THIS HAPPEN! I heard the slapping sound on the bed. Then the creature ran off. I guess I should have never looked at images of sleep paralysis on the internet. I am a Christian woman & now feel like I need to sleep with a crucifix & seriously get into prayer mode before bed. There is not any rhyme or reason for all of these nightmares. But it doesn't happen when I take Ambien (5mg). So I never know what to expect with sleep. I just hope for the best. Staying strong & I do expect to have serious feedback from several dr's soon on this. I hate to endure more nightmares from the SP, but I have no choice. I cannot dream up these sensations. And because I get into the stuck mode and uncontrollably fall back into SP over and over again, seconds apart.....well.......honestly......I've even noticed that I can't breathe! I try to, but cannot draw in oxygen. FDA......are you FRIKKING LISTENING TO THIS??? I was the first FRIKKING guinea pig to take this from my family dr. last Aug. 2011. Trust me when I tell you, I have no other psychosis history. Just anxiety & depression from past cancer. Who wouldn't. & PTSD. Please notify your Dr. I did also read online that Effexor has been known to bring on HELLISH like dreams. I tried the 14 days of 20 mg. & 14 days of 10 mg. Well, guess what...it didn't work. Just as the nurse told me on the phone, if my nightmares were still bad, I'd probably have to go back on the medication. (LOL--really? I thought it was silly for her to say that) Considering on shaving a tiny bit away daily. Very trusting & knowledgable NEUROLOGIST said to take up to 4 Xanax to get off of Viibryd. I don't think that's enough. It seems to me to need a medical stay weaning process. No one should have to mentally live thru such traumatic PS episodes. : ( HUGS! Please keep me updated!
OMG! I thought I was the only one with this horrible sleep paralysis problem. I also have severe joint pain and insomnia. I have been taking Viibryd for about 4-5 months and these problems seem to be getting worse the longer I take it. I also have autoimmune thyroid disease and was perscribed Viibryd about the same time my thyroid med dosage was changed. I am so thankful for everyone's posts because I now know these side effects are all linked to Viibryd. Thank you, thank you. I will be asking my doc to help me wean off of this horrible drug. I must say, it has never really made a difference in my depression, anxiety or libido.
Thank God the brain wave attack sensations went away and I haven't had any sleep paralysis attacks. But tonight I am dropping down to 10mg. Viibryd & a little concerned. I guess what I've noticed more since decreasing the Viibryd to 20 mg. is a definite increase in libido. 20 mg. might be the perfect dose. I might be more spontaneous in a good way & easier ticked off in a bad way. :) I'll post more on the 10 mg. dose soon. Hope I don't get emotional about something tomorrow? Like a Hallmark commercial? :)
Are they only going by TSH to say you are hyper? If that is what they are going by then that isn't necessarily true. The TSH only checks the putuitary gland.
Anyway, no way am I going off this. It has been wonderful for me. I can now drive and be normal. I used to have awful anxiety while driving and for some reason this med helped...YAY!!! It has been years since I have felt this good!!
The dream thing is what I had to work through, and I also went through a time, and still can a little...control them which is weird. If I am having a bad dream, it seems I can change it...sometimes anyway. Now the sleep paralysis is not as bad as it was when I started Vii, but I have had that before this med anyway. (For many years actually....and like I said my kids have also experienced it.)
Hope you get to feeling better soon!!!
I meant to say my mom is HYPO.
Yes, I am borderline Hyperthyroid & it's just something that they will watch. It just seems odd to me, because my mother is 'hyper' with many growths on her thryoid. Only my oncologist thought the hyperthyroid was a little odd. My family dr. dismissed it. Also, I am not going off the Wellbutrin (300mg). As much as I'd like to, it decreases my neuropathy foot pain a little, but not a cure. So that's really the only reason why I take it. The 'Xanax' is used sparingly, due to it being an addictive med. But since I've successfully taken it for going on 4 yrs. now, maybe 1 (.25)/day if even & going many mos. w/o it while taking Buspar (that drug is a joke & didn't do anything for me but make me feel weird & dizzy). Prior to Ambien, I had my share of nightmares & Ambien has actually helped with that. But the Viibryd is causing distressing nightmares when trying to sleep. Now that I've been on 20 mg. for almost 2 wks. now, I am having more consistant nightmare/sleep paralysis. But NOT bumping back up to 40 mg. No way. Are you also weaning off of it? I also read about 'going with the sensation' of heavy wave like/sleep paralysis feeling instead of fighting it. And so last night when I kept on feeling the crazy sensations a good 6 or so times, repeatedly, I would just relax, move my hands (because I could, the other day I couldn't move at all, & I had not taken Ambien) and I tried clenching my jaw & opening & closing my mouth...as talked about....maybe on youtube? I'd snap right back into feeling normal again. Tonight if it happens, I am going to try getting out of bed immediately to see what happens, because that is supposed to help? From what I can recall from last night, I don't think I could have jumped out of bed quickly enough, because I was in sort of a relaxed sleep state. I've been thru so much with my past cancer that scary images in my dreams do not scare me. In fact, I've noticed that in the past few mos. as these dreams intensified (I know it's from the Viibryd) that I have found myself really in control of my dreams and moving towards the scary image until I am face to face and then it goes away. That's why I feel like my dreams are almost 'Nightmare on Elmstreet' like w/o Freddy. I don't run from them. But Sun. night worst attack of total sleep paralysis had me so cocooned & frozen that I eventually was trying to wake up my husband by saying "help me." WTF. I cannot even believe I am talking about this happening to me. I already wrote the FDA. And to think that my family Dr. dismissed this, when it's all over the internet now! Thankfully, the drug has been out there long enough. I was his first guinea pig. I do not have severe depression or bipolar or anything of that nature. So to think that Viibryd can take a somewhat healthy brain & give such awful side effects if very frightning to me and I worry for everyone else now. :O
First....32 tsh does not make you hyperthyroid!....please make sure you look into that before you continue on that road. There are forums with lots of info. Atkins has a thyroid forum on their low carb site. I am hypo and many are hypo even with lower than your tsh number. There are other things to look at......just wanted you to know.
My sleep paralysis isn't from any med. I have had it a long time and even my kids have had it happen to them....but when I first started the Vii, it did get much worse until I got used to the dreams and all that has worn off for the most part. Course you never get use to the sleep paralysis....that is awful I know!!!
What did you read that worked??????
I took Ambien a few years back and it did nothing but give me awful dreams....I didn't want to go to sleep. I tried several sleep meds and they did the same. Xanyx is the only thing that works for me in that area.
The Wellbutrin in the Vii both mess with your eyes...that is a side effect. But I don't think I would go off the Wellbutrin and Vii at the same time....why not stay on the Wellbutrin? Course that is up to you....sounds like you would have to much withdrawals going off both...course I have gone off and on Wellbutrin many times when I was taking it by itself and it didn't bother me until a couple of weeks later when I would be mad at the world...lol...
Thanks for your reply. Again I am so relieved to hear I am not alone here. I hope Forest Lab. starts to listen up here. My husband suggested that we contact the FDA. My ? is, does the sleep paralysis w/ terrifying nightmares happen with any SSRI? None of this started in until I cut my dose from 40 to 30....& currently 20. I took my dose late last night again, & then read on this board not to take it at night. But weeks ago, when I decided to wait until the am to take the smaller dose, I had the worst of the nightmares w/ seizures?! Never have I had seizure problems before. So you asked about the 'WB' (as I call it, 'wellbutrin'). My family dr. told me to increase it back to 300. I had thought, nahh...I'll keep it at the 150. But then after a few more wave like headrush/dizzy symptoms, I didn't want to take any chances w/ maybe the 'WB' causing the symptoms so I went back to the 300 over a week ago. I used to feel unsure about the 300, because I felt it was making my eyes tear up some/hyperfocused vision or pressure? in my eyes? Well, that turned out to be issues w/ wearing contacts! Discovered after a bout with dry eyes that is still persisting. One other thing that I'll probably start a new post on is that my oncologist checked my thyroid & my levels were 0.32, which is hyperthyroid!? I am not being treated for hyperthyroid, as my Dr. said it's nothing to worry about, but I do have to say that I have felt all the symptoms of hyperthyroid more so than ever since I've started the Viibryd. I wonder if it's caused this? Lastly, I was nervous about falling asleep last night. I took 5 mg. of Ambien & 1 Xanax (.25)...my neurologist said I could go up to 4 xanax as needed during the discontinuation syndrome with Viibryd. Normally I would just fall asleep. But instead, I doze off & then wake up, feeling 1/2 asleep but yet aware of the overwhelmingly scary vibration pulling feeling all over my body. It's nauseating & I felt frightened. BUT! thanks to reading info last nite on how to stop it (I did consider having my dog sleep with me :) I immediately RELAXED and mentally grounded my body back into the bed, like a sinking feeling, and it worked! I'd snap out of the feeling, my mind felt released, and then I'd doze off again. Unfortunately though, I did have to experience this 6 or so times before the Ambien probably fully kicked in. My suggestion to anyone dealing with sleep paralysis from discontinuation syndrome, take the Ambien. I never considered the Viibryd as a stimulant, because especially in the last few mos, when I take it at night, I will get really sleepy about 20 min. after taking it. I should hop into bed & wait for the dozy feeling, but I can't wait until 'late' to take the Viibryd. Now that I am aware of the sleep paralysis, I am going to TRY not taking the 20 mg. tonight & wait until tomorrow am, to get back on the morning schedule. If by 9pm tonight I am started to feel any wave sensation, I'll probably take 20 mg. tonight & again tomorrow morning. Doubling up for a day, even though it is a 24 hr. pill. I just cannot believe I am having to write about this. :\ So disappointed in Viibryd. The ONLY thing it did for me was completely wipe out PMS & I did feel 'content' with the area I live in, which I do not like. But the honeymood period wore off quickly with the drug and the 35 lb. weight gain came on. Like other's have said, it causes more belly fat weight gain. And I've had no libido & stopped crying. The 1st 2 days on the 20 mg. I had emotional meltdowns. Thankfully, that stopped. I was days before TOM or AF, whatever you want to call it. :) And I am fine now. My libido is way better. I just have to figure out the sleep issues!
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