Shortage Of Soma (carisoprodol) Dan 5513 (Page 2)
UpdatedI am writing this thread forum to discuss the shortage on soma and carisoprodol. Recently even the best pharmacies in my area are completely out of soma. Had to wait a week just to get my second best preferred soma 350mg generic. I had to settle for Jubliant Cadista Pharma generics which are the imprinted OP 35 white tablets. I have been on the Watson formulation for over 5 years which are imprinted DAN 5513. Luckily when Activas Elizabeth / Mayne Pharma acquired Watson Pharma then of which now Teva Pharma has acquired Activas medications. Activas was smart as they kept the Watson formulation of soma and dispensed the watson generic formulation. Last month I was able to find the watson DAN 5513 tablets and was informed they would have them in stock in future no problem. This was not the case as this prior months fill was hectic. I had to switch from my main pharmacy to my second preferred pharmacy because they carried the watson formulation by activas. They assured me they would be able and continue to get this generic. The pharmacist even has informed me in the past that the DAN 5513 tablets are the best working generic somas and have even been informed by my pain clinic staff that the only truly working muscle relaxers are Soma or generic carisoprodol. This was reassuring when I got this information. Anyways I called to fill them this month and little to my surprise they informed me they would order them and have them in that following Monday. They did not. So I noticed that the bottles have been stating dispensed by Activas. After this shortage if you receive soma and have been getting the DAN 5513 tablets it will no longer say by Activas on the rx bottle it will be saying Teva. I believe this action has caused delays and shortages of soma. Every pharmacy in my state has been out of all soma for like 2 to 3 weeks. The wait is over but of course the orders came in and were not DAN 5513 tablets but other generic makes such as Jubliant Cadista imprinted OP 35 white tablets, SciGen Pharma imprinted SG 104 tablets. Even the Qualitist now Solco generics are not much around. These are the tablets with the check marks. Anything qualitest will have the logo of a checked marked looking V. I have had a pharmacist even inform me that the DAN 5513 are even far more superior to any others including the qualitest checked marked V ones. Anyways when I called my pharmacy to re-inform them that their pharmacist always makes sure I get the DAN 5513 tablets and that they were ordered for me. When I called to fill them for the DAN 5513 watson tablets some lazy pharma tech lied to me and informed me that they are no longer making the DAN 5513 anymore, which is just not true lol. Just goes to show how our pharmacies work and how bad it is when people do not pay attention to their generics. Anyways so I called Teva Pharmaceuticals as activas is now acquired by Teva and they produce the DAN 5513 tablets still using the old watson formulation thank goodness. I informed the pharma tech that she was most likely wrong and they most certainly are making the watson formulation tablets still. So I called teva to confirm they are still making this watson formula imprint soma of DAN 5513. The representative at Teva Customer Support informed me what I knew to be true and that they of course are still making these tablets and all I needed to do was to call my pharmacy and inform them to contact their wholesaler to order a called "short dated" order fill and have their wholesaler order directly from teva for short dated tablets and rx fill. Short dated usually means there is an excess amount of tablets manufactured from prior batches. The Teva rep informed me to simply call my pharmacy to order from wholesaler a short dated order of the DAN 5513 but that they would have a much sooner expiration date of 01/2020 to which I am fine with. I believe expirations on medications to be a scheme for the most part medicine is medicine. I have had soma, xanax and many other meds that have been expired according to pharmacy bottle and manufacturer bottle and they worked just as good as a freshly picked batch. So I called my pharmacy back and corrected her and informed her (she lied) not really but informed her and the pharmacist as I am close with them and know they want these ones in their store as they always order great generics no matter the cost and they do better business than ones that just order in cheap generics. Anyways I called them back and informed them they informed me wrong and they still are making the DAN 5513 tablets but from now on after the shortage they will no longer say dispensed by Activas but will say Teva. Teva will be taking over soma/ carisoprodol 350mg tablets from now on so if you want these DAN 5513 you will need to tell the pharmacy to order in Teva generics as they still use the watson formulation for their soma (carisoprodol) thank goodness. I then proceeded to call the pharmacy after speaking with teva and provided the NDC to pharmacy on prior call to which they stated their system shows Manufacturer unavailable. I informed teva this on the call which they said they have short dated DAN 5513 watson now teva tablets and have pharmacy call wholesaler. I informed my pharmacy tech and store of my call and requested to have them short date order me some in. The pharmacy tech must have felt some tension when I corrected her as she said she would try and call me back. When she called back I could tell she was bull crapping her way out of it way bad could tell by her tone etc that she didnt even try to order in short dated tablets for me. Anyways she informed that she could not do that and tried but I could tell she didnt try and I had transferred my rx to them under circumstances and being informed there would not be a problem getting the dan 5513 tablets in which means I could not switch it again to another pharmacy that may have them so I couldnt even really try it would have been pointless. Teva informed me that these DAN 5513 tablets that will be fresh batches and not short dated will be available 03/31/2019. So I was stuck with ordering in a different generic or taking the one they received in the mail after a huge shortage and I went with the Jubliant Cadista ones imprinted OP 35. They are very effective but not as good as the watson formula DAN 5531 tablets. I informed my pharmacy of the date they will be ready again and that I will be expecting those next month. Anyways my inquiry is to everyone out there who takes soma if they have had the same issue and noticed this huge shortage going on for soma's and if so what generic are you guys taking and what feedback can you provide. I am very well versed in pharmacology and how big pharma works so wanted just some simple feedback on people who take soma and what generic they get and if the shortage has affected anyone. Which generic of soma do you guys take? How do you like it? And if taken prior how would you compare your current generic to the DAN 5513 and Jubliant Cadista generic soma the OP 35? Thought this would be a good page for people in my shoes with a nationwide shortage of soma and how it has affected us and you and what generics are being taken and feedback on them. Thank hope to get this thread moving with some great feedback for us all to share and chat about. Anyways let me know everyone God Bless the Healthy and stay healthy! Let me know guys. Love you all! Best I have tried in order: Brand Name is of course the best but super costly and not worth it really when watson formula is identical to brand. 1. Teva Pharma- DAN 5513 (formerly watson then activas/Mayne Pharma, now officially Teva 2. Jubliant Cadista- OP 35 3. Qualitest now Solco- 2410 V 4. Wallace- WP 5901 5. SciGen Pharma- SG 109 6. Rising Pharma (Made in India) CL 022 7. Sun Pharma- 446 And there are many more these days. Please feel free to add some other generics of this medicine in if it is not listed. I dont have time to cover them all now. Now lets get that feedback on this topic guys, thanks! I will be on Jubliant cadists this month and they seem fine but they are not DAN 5513 tablets. Hopefully Teva has rolled out their new labels and dispensed info soon. God bless!
You’re preaching to the choir. I’ve been through almost the exact pain in the a$$ you have. Only difference is the pharmacists here try to argue with me about how the “quality of generic meds are exactly the same”. Which I know is complete BS, because the DAN 5513’s are clearly MUCH better to anyone who has taken generic soma.
I’m taking OC’s now. They barely touch my pain. It’s 2021 now so I doubt you’ll be reading this, but CVS (where I’ve been getting soma because Walgreens flat out refuses to order ANYTHING for me) said that the Teva DAN’s won’t be back in stock until November!!!
Through my diligent research, I came across the Oxford Pharma with the semicircle and 111 on the other side. People on Reddit are saying these are almost to the Watson quality. I found Amazon Pill Pack who said they have that brand. I’ve been barely making it day to day for over 2 months on these subpar brands.
Anyway, I went through the Pill Pack registration. Several times because I wanted to to be reassured that they actually have the Oxford Pharma brand by not just one but 4 different customer service people. Today I finally got my script... and it’s ScieGen.
Not sure if I can keep this up. It’s too much work and since I’m getting nowhere, it just really really sucks that I can’t find a decent comparable brand. I have a feeling Teva only bought Actavis to shut down quality Soma production. I heard about 500mg Soma in China and even a 750mg that’s supposed to be out soon, but Americans are getting the shaft here. I just don’t get it. Needed some good news today, but I guess it’s only good news for people who love bad news. :-/
Re: Eddy (# 17)
The reason Teva isn’t making more of them is that they had a bunch of them expire unbought! It’s ridiculous that they destroyed IDK how many perfectly SUPERIOR pills.
Re: LilIlluminate (# 21)
Your 'diligent research', derived in part by the Reddit crowd, has lead you to perhaps the worst Soma I've ever had, Vanadom C 111. They look funny, smaller yet taller with rough edges, mine were from Oxford Pharma, close to worthless. I take it that Vanadom is just another Carisoprodol out there. Reminded me of the Indian stuff you can mail away for, except these required a prescription, how sad what has happened to this medicine.
Re: EDDY (# 1)
The Watson Brand Soma marked “DAN 5513” were not part of the sale of Watson Pharmaceuticals to Teva. You will never again be able to find “DANS” and were just dealing with old stock around the country which took about a year to deplete. Everyone who started taking Carisoprodol took “DANS”. No longer available, never will be. It’s a shame because every alternate to the Watson has not come close to the original Watsons.
Re: Skip (# 24)
I’m at a loss for words! What about 2410 V’s can’t recall the manufacturer but all
I see nowadays is Sciegen?
Re: Sandra (# 25)
the "V" was for Vintage" Pharma. I think SciGen is just a repackager. You find that a lot, like repackaged Eggs, you are are buying old Soma. For the record I had no problem with them, unlike these Oxford Vanadom, aka Soma, like plaster in a pill!
Re: EDDY 2022 (# 26)
Eddy!!! Was hoping to get your feedback on this. Do you know if activis is gonna stop or not going to make Soma Watson formula?
Re: Sandra (# 27)
Gosh I wouldn't really know? I have a few good spare Soma bottles at another location and I've had enough. Do you remember when you took your first Soma, could bounce into a wall and just laugh. Where has the laughter gone?
Thank you your information is very helpful. You have answered every question about carisoprodol . I prefer Dan formulation as well. Although, I was cut off by my doctor as they are now a schedule drug. I am currently looking for online options. Any information would be helpful. Stay healthy
Re: Sassygirl (# 29)
Thank you, very nice to read that! While TeleMedicine is becoming quite popular and accepted, those illegal pharmacies online are not to be trusted.
I've been taking some really weak Soma's because my pharmacy said they didn't make Dan 5513 anymore or the vs . I go to heb in Houston
I was getting name brand till they stopped paying for them and I got the Dan they are the best
Re: Daniel (# 32)
It's hard to believe any insurance company would pay for the brand name Soma. I just priced it for grins & giggles. A 3 month supply of 270 Soma would cost $2556, while generic runs $25 (was $18 a few months ago). I have been taking generic Soma for 40 years now, and it is criminal what they have done to it, as if no one would notice?
Re: EDDY (# 33)
To add to my last post about how horrible Soma seems to be these days, any brand, DON'T tell your Doctor, who really would not like to give them to you, in 2022
Re: EDDY (# 34)
They stop prescribing because you said the new somas bite?
Re: Sandy (# 35)
My Doctor is sharp and doesn't really want to prescribe it anyway. If you tell a Doctor that this medicine isn't working for you, most patients then ask for a higher quantity or more powerful medicine. I still do get them, it's a good idea not too share your personal perceived negative knowledge or opinion of a medicine at the time of requesting them. This alone is a red flag for addiction behavior. Just sharing what happened to me.
Re: Sandy (# 35)
No this just happened and my Doctor who is very sharp was about to ask me why would I want this medicine if it doesn't work, but he didn't. I'm still getting them, have a supply that can last two years, but we are talking about these recent SOMA brands that are really bad
OK that makes sense and yes these new are inferior to Dan shoot I’d settle for a V don’t remember the number…. Wonder what truly is up with Teva. I cannot tell a lie I have switched pharmacies in the past because my pharmacy quit carrying Dan Of course it’s been a while since I’ve done that last time I called around nobody nobody had them
None are as good as the Watson can brand cannot find them my mom takes them has for yrs n the others don't help her
Re: Kay (# 39)
Hopefully Mom isn't still taking the Watson Soma as they were discontinued years ago
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