Oxycontin Op And Oc What's The Difference (Page 10)
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I've been taking the oxycontin oc for years now. I want to know what exactly is in the new oxycontin op? PLEASE HELP

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I keep reading and reading, but what actions are you taking about the problems you are having? It is your duty, for your safety, also mine as I am a terminal Cancer Patient with Pailitive care or pain control and Chemo all I have, anyway, what has anyone done? I have documented all the changes, the side effects, the difference in the pain control time and relief ammount, everything associated with this change of my 80mgOC to 80mgOP, everything I have read, just anything to make sure I have my ducks in a row when the lawsuits start, because after taking the OPs, I'm sorry you non believers, there is a different. I do not abuse drugs, I have terminal Cancer and before I die would like to live without some pain. The pain is still there 24/7, but at least OCs gave me more relief than these OPs. Thank you Tom (#14) for information and web page, I suggest others visit that site. Thank you, also Stormin(#20), seems you have compassion when some on this site think we are complaining because we are drug addicts that snort, or abuse this drug, well for all who don't (including me) don't and will fight for my rights and I want it in writing, FDA, GOV, etc. That this drug is same as OCs. I demand it and I demand that the products they are using will not have adverse effects (in writing) and documentation why this change was necessary, when the cost has gone up. People are gonna loose lives because of this, you all need to WRITE, CALL, COMPLAIN and get that documentation that the drug works, ON PAIN, the same as the OC and that we Chronic Pain Patients are getting same quality of relief as with OC. I do not need this stress, Cancer feeds on stress, so need you all to help and stand up for our rights not drug abusers! Also want to know why the need to change to OP, was there a problem with OC I need to know about that may have hurt me? All this needs to be in wrting. Maybe the OCs were hurting us or had something discovered that they found out and not telling us. Again in writing. If I have to personally write the President of the US to find out what's going on, this health care problem we have and they changing medications, ONLY to prevent abuse, and the price of this drug went way up, is this helping with crisis we are in?? Needless, that money for research could have went to better use like Metastatic Cancer, No Cure, Death Sentence, 3 to 5 yrs, more if your are lucky and God has a plan for your life, hey maybe this is mine, LOL, really tho, let's just think about it, keeps good notes, documents, daily diares and think about this another way. Is this chan a cover up for something bad OCs were doing to us not to mention what these other ingredients are and will do. I know that is far fetched, its all about the abuae, but none the less, I feel violated, and not gonna just type here and complain, talking to a Lawyer let him do the research and if anyone who would have a doctor in family, ASK and get all in writing!!!!!!!!!!! My cancers not going away and FDA, DEA, I aint either!!!!!!

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BHT...one of the new ingrediant's in new oxycontin formula. Butylated Hydroxytoluene or BHT is an anti-oxidant which react's with oxygen free radical's to slow down the antioxidation rate of ingrediates in a product that can cause changes in taste or colour. Is used in cosmetic's,pharmaceutical's,jet fuel,rubber, petroleum product's, electrical transformer's,oil and embalming fluid.Yummy!! Turns out this additive,used in all above has a lovely MSDS(material safety data sheet: Do not let chemical enter environment
combustible
Ingestion causes abdominal pain, confusion,dizziness, nausea,vomiting

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to those patients who are suffering so much..i have to apologize in expressing my fears and anxiety over the new formula of oxycontin.. 'Bunch of lier's is correct in saying that in some of my concern's with the new formula may be in error..i just don't know but i don't want to create confusion and panic . I know those thing's i read concerning the new formula are not encouraging. We need to each do his research and find out for ourselves before we take as gospel truth what other's are saying about the op's. I have not taken the new op's..but after reading 2500 comment's from those who claim to be taking this med..90% of these ppl. are having serious side effect's such as vomiting..bad stomach pain..serious headaches..to me this say's 'something' is not right and wouldn't it be classified as toxic to produce such side effects? 'Bunch of lier's' please forgive me for my anger.. not all of us who take oxycontin are abusing them..as a chemist perhap's you could be the one to help us understand and be comfortable with the new formula and not be so frightened. And why would so many ppl. be having such bad side effect's? Any suggestion's for those who are truely suffering and do not wish to get high nor abuse their med's but just seek to feel better? Titanuim dioxide is in both version's of the oxycontin..the 2 new ingrediant's are the BHT and i can't remember the other one.. 'bunch of lier's..what is BHT ? And the other substance? And can you explain how they work?

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And by the way.. what 'chemist' misspells sodium choride as well as says..'waaa'aaaa' But i suppose a jekyll and hide personality exhibits such a contradition. Are you from Purdue..the company that now 2 top guys are serving a jail sentance for lying about the low possibility of addiction from oxycontin? It's one of the most addicitve med's one can take. The warning on most laxatives tell one to take for only and nor more than 2 week's. Why is that? 'methinks you protest's too much'

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You know what 'bunch of liers' i have tried talking to my pharmacist..i have called purdue..i have gotten on line to research and i have not found answer's to reassure me that the new oxycontin will be ok. I would truely appreicate any feedback you have to offer as i am ignorant and am willing to listen. I want..NEED reassurance so please try and be a little more informative. I am not going to defend myself with your accusations as they are untrue as well as unkind. I really go out of my way to not hurt nor offend someone. I want answers..not accusations sir. If you are a chemist i very much appreciate your feedback as do the other's in this forum. There is an ingrediate in the oxycontin..actually in both versions that i beleive are carcengenic ..can you elaborate on those..as u are a chemist.then you would know what they are. And can you do so without behaving like a 2 year old who just threw a tantrum because those questioned this formual..these were honest inquires. The very fact we patients are not chemists nor doctors and must trust our lives into the hand's of maybe people like you is unsettling In fact i am wrong even to rebuke you as the bible tells me 'not to rebuke an angry person.

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OK, you have no clue what you are talking about. I am a chemist by trade and specialized in plastics adn polymers (no I don't expect you to understand what that means). Ethylene Glycol (antifreeze) and POLYethylene glycol are only similar in name. It is a type of wax that is also sometimes used in HIGH doses alone as a mild laxative and IS NOT A TOXIC SUBSTANCE. The hydrocodone is more toxic to your kidneys than anything else that you mentioned. Iron oxide is by nature red, it is the fancy name for rust-the kind you find on iron containing matierials like steel.Keep crying about it because you can't snort it. I haven't noticed ANY difference in its effectiveness at all and I've been taking it for 5 years at the same dosage. Before you start misinforming anyone about chemicals try googling MSDS followed by the name of the chemical name (material safety data sheets) and they will tell you any chemical reactivity or toxicity. By the way Sodium Chlide is in table salt but alone either sodium or chlorine can kill you if ingested but together they make our food taste better. Go cry to your doctor and MAYBE he won't dump you for the obvious complaint made by abusers. OH-and educate yourself about chemicals before you make claims about them.

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To the pharmacist..in my personal experience..i have found the majority to be indifferent and presumptuous. Because i must take oxycontin for severe pain..i am treated as if i am a drug addict. That is just plain wrong. I had kidney cancer and doctors were trying to find the right pain medication. One day after a doctors appointment..my husband took a new pain medicine to the pharmacy and this rude indifferent pharmacist refused to fill my prescription and RED FLAGGED me!! It took much time and effort by my doctor to work this out. Sir/ma,am this is inexcusable!! If i had not been so ill i would have sued the guy for slander!!.I could tell you more horror stories but won't. If you are the minority and actually care with action to back it up where it's not just word's than i salute you as well as thank you.
Now..to 'bunch of liers'. I am happy your new formula of oxycontin work's well for you..but dear..butylated hydroxytene(BHT) HYPROMELLOSE, POLYETHYLENE GLYCOL (this is an ingrediate put in anti-freeze) POLYETHYLENE OXIDE, (PLASTIC) titanium dioxide, POLYSORBATE, RED IRON OXIDE. at least one of these is a carcinogen!! Canada classifys one ingrediate a class a carcengen as well as europe. Canada will not allow the new formula for their patient's!! The unmitagagted facts if this new formula is TOXIC to kidney's..liver..heart and brain as to my understanding and research! You are ingesting plastic dear! Many many of the side effects are because of this plastic..many can not tolerate these ingrediates. Wether this is true i know not..but rumor has it a statement was put out that 'all patient's complaing about side effects are those abusing oxycontin..bulls--t.. yes there is some truth but much deception in that statement.There are patients who do not abuse this drug..but know of the elements in the new formula that are wondering if 2 years down the road are they going to develop kidney cancer..liver problems..brain problems. Can you 'bunch of liers' assure everyone taking the op that it is totally harmless??? And the polyethylene glycol is not toxic? What about the polysorbate. I wager and i hope to God i'm wrong..but somewhere down the road patients will get sicker and sicker from these new ingredients. How can this not be??!! Please tell me!! How can plastic not harm our bodies??!! These are my concern's. I have had at least 2 pharmcists tell me i am right in being alarmed! There is at least one case of a pain patients who took these new oxycontin as precribed..she swallowed her dose..did not chew..no abuse and not only did she not suffer pain relief but these pills went through her digestive system completely whole. Do you know what happens to the eldery who have high blood pressure and they are thrown into withdrawels because they can not digest their med's??? They suffer uncontrollable blood pressure and have strokes! Assure me please that these new oxycontins will not harm anyone and don't quote off purdue's web page..they lied before..they stated oxycontin would not cause addiction or a low % of those taking this drug would suffer from addiciton. That was a blatent lie... As far as i know the FDA did only a 2 year study on the side effects from this new formula..we both know that is not enough!

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I have terminal cancer and this medicine, whatever OC now OP, has been prescribed to me for chornic pain. I hear there is not difference between the two, well I am here to tell u there is. It takes longer to work, I can tell when medicine has taken effect, duh, the pain is not as bad. Before the OP I did not have these sid effects, now I do. I asked my Oncologist whould this drug that has been changed in some way, because people were crushing and snorting, well all I can say is my life is filled with pain 24/7 and one, if this change makes medicine not work as well, I will tell, second, if this change hurts me, given the fact that I am on other drugs like Chemo, I will hold whoever resposible, since I was not even told about the change, the only way I knew was the price of this new medicine went from 8 or 900 and some dollars to 1100.00 and I am on Medicaid, I have small co-pay and could not afford if for not having this covered. I just hope people who really care for the ones that take there medication the right way, well just don't punish us for others addiction. Are you ignorant to the fact that these people will find a way and that way may kill them, I PRAY not, but I feel this is not good. Who would I hold responsible if the change hurts me, my stomach does hurt, I can tell its different, and as long as I've made these notes and what happens everyday since switching, I will have proof that if something goes wrong, I will hold person responsible for this change, and don't say its the abusers, cause somebody making money if charging Medicade more, a lot more and I feel bad, but try living this life knowing you are gonna die and sometimes the pain, if u only
K new and I know some do. Sorry did not mean to go on, and I hope someone will tell me who to hold resposible if I get sicker with whatever product they used to make this drug the way it is and who or why would it cost more and why punish us, if u r, because if I have to change Medicines because of this, I don't know what it anything would help this pain and to put me thru these changes is not fair to me or the ones having to pay more because Insurance Co.s are gonna want to change or not cover certain drugs. My life is still a good life, I'm alive, but hope and pray this will not fall back on the wrong people who do not abuse this or any other drug. I pray for you that do. What time I have left, sure would like to have less stress with doing so many changes. God Bless you all and like I said, is this gonna hurt me? Not only Insurance and them paying more, Chemo's enough and I take 3, but the chemicals they used to do this or will my pain be worse and then will my Oncologist change me to something else? What else is there? Sorry, so long and I seem to keep going, but you know how Northeners are, ha ha. We r the best. I best ( not to be mean) this will put a lot of people out of work and employment rate go up?? Ha Ha. Do drug dealers file taxes? Well gotta end on a lite note, even tho I am worried, until I find out more of what's gonna happen, just Stress and that's not good so gonna try be possitive.

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Please don't blame the Pharmacist. What's with the comment about ruthless Pharmacists? We order what's available, we don't make the drugs, we don't price the drugs and we didn't make the decision to change the drug. Neither did PF for the matter, they were basically forced by the DEA.

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Wow! I take them as well and I do not see ANY difference as well. In fact, the ONLY people that I know personally who are complaining about it are the ones who abused it. I've only heard the I'm choking on phlegm and making me sick to my stomach from known snorters in my family. These same people were ALL faking SSI claims and having medicaid paying for thier oxy's while trading and dealing with each other when they snorted themselves out of meds. Waaaahh... you guys were so smug when they took the generic off the market and the Dr. couldn't try to make you go on that. I've had 2 firends die in the last year from abusing it like that. DEAL WITH IT.

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The Assistant for my APRN I see that perscribes my Oxycontin tells me now my APRN won't be in until 'Thursday' (all day was saying 'Wednesday', tells me she doesn't know anything about this 'OP', to call my Pharmacy (I do), they tell me to call my APRN, told them I did, they said 'We'll call them' (why?) The Assistant calls me back and says the regular Oxycontin is completely OFF the market, you can't get it 'anywhere' because people were crushing it and snorting it (my sister accused me of this and also said I was snorting cocaine, drinking alcohol, was talking suicide and had a 'gun' and was going to 'End it' - my Mother from NC drives up because she couldn't get me admitted into a hospital any other way (so let's get together, get her out of 'her house' so you and your fiance can take over that beautiful contemporary- 5 State Police and 5 guns pointing at me later... I'm in the hospital... funny thing.... NOTHING illegal in my system, no alcohol no gun and (the Psycyatrists say my family is disfunctional and my sister and mother belong in the hospital, not me) so now I have this bad rap. I told the Assistant I can't take the OP, it's not working - she tells me it's the same 'exact thing' and I'll have to wait until 'after Thursday to talk to my APRN about getting something else. Okay... so I'm back in bed until Thursday or when ever and I'm going homeless and have no where to go, have no heat, no hot water since Dec (they know this) so how do I do anything when the State only gives me 5 1/2 hrs for my Homemaker but gives another woman (who sells her Oxy for years 8 hrs)
WHAT CAN I DO? IS THE REGULAR OXI OFF-OFF THE MARKET? I HAVE ULCERS WHICH IS WHY I WAS PUT ON THE OXY NO SUBSTITUTIONS BUT MY aprn DOES IT ANYWAY. Let's mess up my stomach. last time my meds were eating my stomach lining...
DAMN YOU PERDUE! WHY PUNISH EVERYONE? IT'S THE 'LAWS' JOB TO CATCH THE SELLERS AND SINCE WHEN DO ANY OF YOU CARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND THEIR MEDICATION? YOU ARE THE DRUG MANUFACTURERS, THE MARKET IS THE DEALERS AND THE DOCTORS ARE THE PUSHERS!
WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE? YOU WANT TO 'HELP' PEOPLE? USE THE MONEY TO FIND A CURE FOR CANCER! YOU HAVE 'NO CONTROL' OVER THE ADDICTS THAT ABUSE ANYTHING!
GOD KNOWS I DETOXED MY COMPANION 11 TIMES! I KNOW THE HELL! I DON'T WANT TO SUFFER FOR WHAT 'HE' DID OR BE TREATED LIKE HIM OR BE ASSOCIATED WITH PEOPLE LIKE HIM. (GOD rest his soul-*killed) Haven't I suffered enough? Haven't those worse off then me suffered enough?
I PRAY FOR YOU ALL - I DO - I PRAY PURDUE WAKES UP FAST - THEY DON'T FEEL OUR PAIN - BUT THEY JUDGE US ALL
I PRAY FOR YOU ALL!
GOD BLESS
(I'm done complaining... I just give up trying to fight anything anymore.....)

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Anyone who gets the new Oxycontin Ops and they are not helping with your pain,PLEASE call 800-332-1088 and report it to the FDA,This is our only chance to get the real pain killers back!!! They will send a form to fill out,I already did it,but its going to take everyone who feels like the new pills are not helping them to try and get the old ocs back

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New Oxycontin OP pills not working for pain

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Okay, I just experimented. I had taken a whole Oxycontin OP-20mg., 12 hours ago and it had NO effect AT ALL in reducing my pain. It was a constant chronic pain like a baseball bat hit me in the lower back. This I'm checking my stool to see if it even disolved (I worked in the Septic business my whole life, plus it's a natural bodily function so it doesn't gross me out to do this *actually human waste is 'thee BEST' fertilizer! Think about it...)
'This time' I chopped it up to hopefully force the medication into my system faster (NO LIE but a Doctor I saw to look at my MRI *brought my dental by mistake but it didn't matter to him - he told me if I was in excrutiating pain (as I do go in every now and then) he told me (but will deny of course) to crush and snort and it will take perhaps a few minutes to work. I tried it (versus wishing I was dead from the pain I was in and crying/screaming from the pain) - YES, it DID WORK and I DO thank the Doctor for telling me what to do (not that I make a 'habit' of this) and the BEST thing was, NO side effects! I COULD NOT understand why people snort it due to it doesn't give you a 'high' AT ALL (at least it didn't for me, it just took away the excrutiating pain)
I just spent 3 days in bed with no medication, I'm given this OP crap, I broke it up and swallowed (like I said) NOW I get this HORRIBLE speeding affect, my head is messed up - NOW I see what people get off misusing it! DON'T TELL ME THERE IS 'NO' DIFFERENCE IN THE MEDICATION! WHAT THE *ELL DID THEY PUT IN THIS OP CRAP? THIS IS HORRIBLE!
THERE'S NO USE IN ME EVEN TAKING THIS 'OP'! I TAKE IT LIKE I'M SUPPOSED TO AND IT DOESN'T WORK, I BREAK IT UP AS I HAVE HAD TO DO WITH THE REGULAR TO GET OUT OF THE NIGHTMARE AND 'NEVER' HAD 'THIS' FEELING!
PURDUE WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO US? WHY DO I HAVE TO DO WHAT I JUST DID TO GET 'SEMI' RELIEF? i'M NOT TAKING ANYMORE OF YOUR POISON UNTIL I GET THE REGULAR BACK OR A DOCTOR ACTUALLY 'LOOKS' AT MY MRI AND HONESTLY DIAGNOSES ME AND GIVES ME THE DA** OPERATION I WAS TOLD I SHOULD HAVE HAD AFTER THE ACCIDENT!
WHO EXACTLY DID YOU TEST ON FOR THOSE 2 YEARS ANYWAYS? OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE THAT HAD NO PAIN BECAUSE THE 'OP' DOES 'NOT' WORK AT ALL!
POISON!

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I ran out of my Oxycontin OC 2 days early due to not being able to sleep several times over the month (I have PTSD and I've gone through MAJOR Traumas in less than a years time. My Companion (21 yrs my senior) of 17 yrs killed at a house he set up to be my HOME but his daughter and Attorney (who has committed more Fraudulent activity against me, takes my Home, puts me back at a house being foreclosed on w/ no heat/hot water since Dec 2009, I have had my Rights as a humane being taken from me, my Civil Liberties, (heck, I have NO Rights at all!) due to all the Traumas I have gone through since finding my companion killed!
Trying to keep my Faith and dealing with Chronic back pain on top of it... this is bull (CT likes the revolving door routine - hospitals do the MRI's but a Doctor can diagnose me from my DENTAL records! TRUE! & BS it was allowed when I told my APRN about it!)
NOW the changing of my Oxycontin to this OP crap?
Time release? When does it start? It's been 12 hours and no relief! Do I waste another pill? Did it even disolve in my system? (Yeah, I'm checking my stool, I've had certain pills do this before!)
I have to pack, I have legal work to do to FIX my life where CT destroyed it along with a 'certain' Shyster of an Attorney!
I DON'T have time to play Guinea Pig! I DON'T have time to keep laying in bed or in a chair with heat on my back!
I HAVE TO save my life and this OXYCONTIN OP is going to end up finishing me off!
STOP MESSING WITH MEDICATIONS THAT WORK!
YOU CAN NOT STOP PEOPLE FROM ABUSING OR SELLING DRUGS OF ANY KIND! WAKE UP! WHY DO PEOPLE THAT NEED IT END UP PAYING?

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I AM TIRED OF THE FDA CHANGING MY MEDS AROUND DUE TO A BUNCH OF DRUG ABUSERS,I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE PATIENTS ON OXCYCONTIN BUT I WENT THROUGH A BUNCH OF NONSENSE, SEEING A SHRINK,DRUG TEST, AND TOOK SOME VERY LONG TEST TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS NOT A RISK FOR ABUSING NARCOTICS,IT IS NOT MY PROBLEM THAT THEIR ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE SUCKING EVERY KIND OF MED THAT WILL GET THEM HIGH UP THERE NOSE, BELIEVE ME THE ABUSERS WILL JUST FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO ABUSE,WHILE THE PATIENTS THAT TRULY NEED THIS MEDICATION CANT GET THE MEDS THEY NEED JUST TO BE ABLE TO BARE THE PAIN THEY ARE GOING THROUGH,I HOPE PURDUE SEES NOTHING BUT ALOT OF CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS AND THEIR BUSSINESS GOES TUMBLING DOWN, THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO THROW A BUNCH OF UNKNOWN INGRIEDIENTS IN OUR MEDS AND WE ARE SUPPOSE TO JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH ALL OF THIS APOXY AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE IN OUR MEDS WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT THE SIDE EFFECTS WILL DO TO US. THEY HAVE ALREADY TRIED A GENERIC FORMULA OF THE OXCYCONTIN, AND THEY DID NOT STAY ON THE MARKET LONG ,BUT NO MATTER THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING AS THEY PLEASE, AND TAKING PAY OFFS, PERDUE THINKS WE ARE SO IGNORANT THAT WE DO NOT SEE WHATS GOING ON ,REMEMBER THIS TO THE CEO;S OF PERDUE , GREED WILL GET YOU EVERY TIME.

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Been on oxycontin for 10 yrs. Have had to take 8 of the 10 mg. thru out the day due to the fact that taking the 20 mg's would make me sick. Got new ones about 3 weeks ago and called pharmacy to see if there a mistake-no just new formulation. Haven't been able to figure out why have burning pain in esophogus(already have Barret's esophogus-burning, stabbing headache between eyes and horrible burning in ears. Have many allergies so thought maybe having an allergy to something in air. Eyes bright red along with face. Feel so horrible-absolutely no appetite.
Tale oxycontin for botched dental procedure where clipped a nerve in mouth plus trigeminal neuralgia and lymes disease. Haven't been able to tolerate any other drugs. Haven't been able to talk or do much of anything since on these damn things. Now I know it's them causing the burning pain after reading this site. Thank you all for the info.

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Here is the web address for all of you if you want to complain to the FDA about the OP. http:/­/­www.fda.gov/­Safety/­ReportaProblem/­default.htm
Funny thing is, they are located in the same building complex I worked in Stamford, CT. early in my carrier. From there, I relocated and got in the car accident.

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Sorry for all typos, shaking hands is another problem I developed after the accident.

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God Bless all of you. I am in the same boat. I wasi in a car accident the day before my birthday in 2000. I was 38 and had just reached my first goal of becoming a VP in a very large company. My second, playing on the Sr. PGA Tour was finished that day. I had a failed two level fusion (that failed miserably), a damaged SI joint and developed 11 other diseases of the spine. I started on OC in 2003, but am still 99% bedridden taking 5 80ng doses per day. I also take Oxycode, Norco, Soma, Valium Klonipin, etc.

I just got my prescription and was surprised to see OP on the pill, so.
I called the pharmacy and I received the same responses you guys did. So, I said, oh well and took the medicine. About 20 minutes later my stomach began to hurt. Then I started developing a bad headache and esophygial spasms. I could actually feel the pill making it ways down my body as a pain followed it down. Within the hour I had a screaming headache, felt like getting sick, severe stomach cramps, severe back cramps (I mean severe) and severe leg weakness. I only felt some pain relief after about 3 hours and it only lasted for a couple of hours, but the side effects went on.
This went on all day long today. I can't sleep or maybe don't want to.
I always wake up in severe pain and maybe my body is trying to keep me awake.
I have never abused these drugs, even though doing so would likely have helped !
What is going on here ? I feel like a Lab Rat ! I wasn't warned of a change in medication and never heard about this in the news or in the newspaper.
Those not ill like us will save their money and just buy heroin !
This sounds like a scam to me. The company makes a new abuse-proof med, gains the confidence of Dr's who have stopped scripting them, which is most of them, and in the end will make more money by increasing their market share !!
So, I guess they will be selling them for a lot less and developing an expensive drug to counteract all our future problems, right ?
This makes me sick(r) !

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