Oxycodone Vs Fentanyl Withdrawals (Page 3) (Top voted first)

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I have just switched from oxycodone to fentanyl patches. I will be withdrawing from them following sugery. any suggestions as to which is easier to withdraw from? Thanks!!!

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When you did the patch in 12hr stretches, how were you able to get the patches to stick when you reapplied them? I really want to wean off this stuff and this is the most unique approach I've seen.

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Did anybody answer this? I'm on 12mcg fentanyl patch, only 3 patches so 9 days. I don't expect I'll have much withdrawal. Does anyone know or have had the same usage/experience? I'll have percocet afterwards as needed but hope not to need it much. Please advise. I have a huge amount of responsibility coming up coinciding with when I finish the last patch!! I'm very worried. Please help! Thanks.

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I'm taking 6 oxycodone 10mg a day and I want to switch to fentnal and oxy half and half.What is a safe dose to do the same as oxy.?

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I have had 3 knee surgeries.The right knee took a while to get better it was a latteral release and the doctor gave me oxycodone 10/325 and it worked the doctor had me on these taking 5 and 6 a day.Now both knees were giving me a fit it got to where i had to leave work and go home lay down and put heat on them.The doctor told me i should start looking for a different type of work i was managing a kitchen in a tourist town where from 7 in the morning we were feeding up to 2100 people.After about a year the knee got good enough to where the Dr ask me if i felt like it helped enough to do the left knee and i said no.And with only a GED there wasn't much I could do it even hurt when I set for a while.I couldn't stand it after i had to start leaving work to go home and lay down to put heat on it.The place where i worked finally had to let me go.So i lost my job and my insurance.When me and my wife couldn't afford the Dr. anymore he just stopped writing my medicine and i got very sick after over a year of taking oxycodone. I didn't even know what was wrong. i was in allot of pain and i thought i had the flu until my wife looked it up and i was in WD. i had never experienced this but after a few days it went away but the pain was killing me. My family doctor started giving me hydrocodone and it helped. But he was leaving the practice center there and was going to open a suboxone clinic where i lived and ask me if i wanted to try that because if i remained there the other doctors were going to send me to a pain clinic and i had no idea what that was.And he said that in Europe they had been using them for pain for years. it wasn't working that great so he put me on 4 a day and for me to break them and take them every 4 hours.And that still wasn't really controlling the pain but before he could refer me to a pain management place he passed away.Well the Dr that took that over automatically treated me like i was on it for detox and i couldn't make him understand.He put me on 2 a day and said i couldn't get no more out of 4 than i could 2 finally after 3 years of suffering i went to a orthopedic and he says i had a torn meniscus and allot of debree and severe arthritis in my left knee. So he did surgery and my new family Dr said he would handle the pain meds. After about 5 weeks and allot of physical therapy he put me back on suboxone now this is after i had been disabled bye the state. I had a very bad limp and never got the motion back in my leg but medicare wouldn't pay for anymore therapy.

He finally started to listen after my wife got all over him and said he was just trying to keep me on the suboxone for the money because medicare didn't pay for that.He started writing me 15 mg oxycodone which was only about $30 compared to $500 a month cash for suboxone. When i could never get the motion back in my leg i went back to the orthopedic the first 2 visits i saw him and he daid to keep working with it.Now the 3rd visit he was backed up and couldn't see me after he had already told me that if it didn't work out he would have to put me to sleep and manipulate the leg but the longer we waited the more chance of it breaking.A month later i went back for the 4th visit same thing he was backed up and i couldn't see him unless i could wait for 4 hours at least well i told them there was no way i could sit that long after it took an hour and a half to get there.So my family Dr said we would get a second opinion and i went to a different orthopedic. He took MRI's of my leg and my back because my foot was numb all the time since the surgery.He said i had a torn meniscus and sometime in the past i had fractured my L4 and L5 in my back.I told him that the other Dr had just done surgery to fix the knee so he left the room when he came back he said he thought he was wrong.And i think he done that just to cover the other Dr because he knew him.He wanted me to wait 6 months and come back because the knee was so sore and he wanted to see if the back shifted because it had grown a bone spur in it and that was why my foot was numb and when i put my heel down it clicked in my back and shot a pain all the way to my foot.When i went back to see him in 6 months he wanted to know what i was doing there i should be at the Dr that done the surgery. His assistant finally showed him why i was there. Now by this time i was on 5 30mg oxycodone and 1 15 at night when i woke up because the pain would wake me up. My body had built up such a tolerance that i was in WD in 3 and half hours.He sent me over to have a MRI of my knee and set one up for my back but now my family Dr has me on fentanyl 75mcg and 2 percocet 10 325 but its not controlling the pain all the way.So anybody that cares tell me who is at fault here.They say i was on the suboxone so long it ruined my receptors in my brain.And then they wonder why i have so much anxiety and depression.

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I was on fentynal 50 and oxycodone15 for a very long time. Then i moved to montana (from washington state). The new pain management doctor did not believe in breakthrough meds. And i was taking 4 pills a day. And i had 15 a month for the fent patch. He put me on a higher dose of fent. 75mg. I got sick the first night and the second day, i had pain, because i had no breakthrough meds! Going cold turkey because of no ocycodone! I wrote to the doc, telling him it took a long time to get just the right combination for me that worked, and then he tsked me off! Just because he doesnt believe in breakthrough, doesnt mean it works for everyone. Any help on this?

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I have been taking fentanyl 50 patches for four days and four oxycodone 15 also but I'm taking of the patches on Monday and only taking 4 15 mg oxycodone will I go through fentanyl withdrawls

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My husband went through 6 months of step down therapy to get off the fentynal patch. It with 2 other medications city could cause depession and did. He will probably be on Cymbalta the rest of his life. Do not go cold turkey!

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If you have only been on the patch for 2 to 3 months you may be okay as long as you are taking them as directed. I have been on both under medical supervision for 14 years. I am fixing to finally have surgery because the actually pin pointed in my neck where the pain is coming from. I don't know how long my detox off of these meds will be, but to honest with you I am tired of the pain management routine. You will be okay. I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and have worked in the field for over 20 Years.

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Dr FRancis Michael Ferrante won't see me as my health imsurance is not longer active
i m loosing everything for cancer i was
in remission now is back im out of oxintin which i never too as i use oxycodone 10/325
for 5 years 270 x month n

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I am on fentynol 75 mcg, I used to be on 160 mls a day of oxycontin. I didn't feel the fentynol patch, I had to change it every 72 hours. I went crazy in pain. I had a car accident, ended up with chronic back pain, busted knee cap, migraines, I ended in the hospital where a doctor changed everything. I stayed with this new doctor, he is a saint and has much compassion . I have to admit that I made a huge mistake, I picked up the fentynol patch when the pharmacy called and told me it was ready. A red flag came up. Now I don't know what will happen . Help?

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I think benzo's are the worse to come off of. I have been on oxy30's for 4 years 240 a month i ran short a few times went through bad wd but starts getting better after 4 days. Zanex 4 mg a day after day 3 with nothing it kick in and i couldnt sleep i was up 4 days had tremmors wanted to die. Had to take 50 mg oxy to drive a car to get to the doc. Benzo's are by far the worse i was day 4 aand it was getting worse seizuers were next. I thought it was from the oxys but doc said it was the zanex.

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What you're feeling is the gas pains

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Fentanyl is what they give people at end of life in hospice to kill them without pain. No pain but it could kill u. Welcome to America's murdering medical system.

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This is from personal experience tho others may feel different. I used to be on 40 mg x 3 per day oxycodone for quite some time, around 7 years. Any doctor will tell you that this pills burn your stomach and should not take them this long. Anyhow, to back to the original subject, Withdrawals were horrible and lasted 7-10 days when I just stopped taking them.

Recently I was switched to fentanyl patches, 50mcg to wear for 72 hours and one 10mg/IR OXY. Having gone through Withdrawals on both, patches were super intense for 3 days but started getting a lot better after that. In my opinion id much rather deal with WD from patches then pills any day.

WD Preparation KIT

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1) Vitman B6
2) spectrum Vitman for men
3) gravol
4) benadryl
5) immodium (contains opiates)
6) natural pills for stress (helps RLS)
7) TONNES OF WATER (this is key)
8) TONNES OF GATORADE (this is key)
9) Tylenol

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Sounds like money for murder again by ins. Co. n Gov.

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Hi Judy, it depends on the amount of both but just keep in mind that Fentanyl is 1,000 times stronger in weight per weight molecules than heroin and most definitely stronger than oxycodone. I have been on both for Pain Management and eventually I was having to have my Dr. RX a patch every 48hts as my body got used to it and I started metabolizing the Fentanyl extremely fast. I would rather go without Oxycodone any day than kick the patches again. I was on the 100mcg/HR which is the highest amount. Another thing is that depending on which Generic Brand you are able to get (they phased out the gel reservoir ones by Acatvis) and now only have Polymer Matrix systems, but just understand there can be a difference of 2.0 entire mg.s within each patch, which is a lot depending on which generic you have in your area. At least in my book Oxy is best. Fentanyl does work better for acute pain.

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I am constantly surprised by the fentanyl horror stories. If we are talking about the transdermal version, I have run up and down the 12, 25, 50, 75 mcg ladder a dozen times in as many years.

IV, the stuff that killed Prince, is not even indicated for nonhospital use, so I am clueless.

I wonder from reading these posts if these stories relate to multidrug addictions. Especially benzodiazepines mixed with oral pain drugs. That is the living dead scenario.

I have had zero trouble following doctors orders and changing doses. To quote him "cold turkey is a religious concept pushed by 12 step groups, follow medical protocol."

When I stopped paying attention to the 12 steppers, I was fine.

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First - are you under doctors care? Do you trust them? If both are true, do not worry. Things will go well.

I have been down the patch ladder 12, 25, 50, 75 mcg/hr every year (almost) for at least 20. I have to change my dose with the seasons. Very cold were I live in the winter. You can do it, no problem.

STAY away from benzo's of all types. Have your Dr. put that in your case file. No benzo's, sleep drugs, or, Gods forbid, methadone (mine calls it "The Devil's Milk" - no kidding, colorful guy).

The patch was designed to smooth out the spike the Fentynal has. Gives it a long half life. That means, withdrawal is nearly equally smooth. Don't worry.

At worst (75 to zero mcg/hr in my case) it was three days. I had to stay active at noon - outside. Forget the weather, just get under the noon day sun. All will be well.

Stay in touch. Very important. I may be a ****n, but others here are not.

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I was on 50 mg. Fentanyl patches for about 3 years. I was recently weaned off by my doctor who gave me 2 mg.dilaudid 2x daily for BT pain. I had no withdrawal symptoms what so ever however I've gained 25 pounds in 4 months which is very concerning to me.

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Fentanyl is waaay harder to w/d from. Had to do IP rehab for 23 days for two 100mcg patches every 48 hrs. If u want to go off something get off oxy.

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