Orange Subutex 153 Half Moon Better Than Strips (Page 2) (Top voted first)
UpdatedYes, they are Subutex 153 half moon and the are shaped like a surf board. They work way better then Suboxone strips. People keep saying they cut the strips into millions of pieces, if that is the case you don't need them in the first place. This new one orange Subutex 153 half moon surf board shape ones last way longer, and work great (oh my god they work so great!) I recommend them to anyone using the white ones or the strips, they both suck compared to the new ones. Take it of leave it but it's the truth. If you take just a half it will last you two days...unreal.
Agreed so far the new activis 8mg 153 ones are awesome.
Brendinnix - Oh no, you're totally right. That was just my initial experience, I still don't love the taste - but it definitely beats the alternative;)
So, I'm trying to cut down on these. Is it hard to? Will I ever stop depending on these? I want to so badly. I've come a long way in 2 weeks. I am proud...i just wonder about the withdrawing period when I try to stop. I'm down to 3/4 a day now. please reply and help me to ween off these and not want to go back to the perks like before. How long do you expect to get off these subs? I feel I can do it. Plus I may not be able to fill my script. share with me your experience....has anyone came off these and not felt the urge to go back? I'm hoping to cut to a half a day now. will i need to be on these forever? please share your thoughts for support?
Stay strong...these are the antidote! A miracle drug! Will I withdraw from these?
Get off as soon as possible if you want to experience the least amount of withdrawal. The halflife of buprenorphine is 36.5 hrs - there is not even enough hrs in a f***ing day for the crap to get out of your system. That is why it builds up and that is why withdrawal is so bad. Early on you can nip this in the butt man! Especially if no chronic pain. If you are at 3/4 a day now I would go:
Starting now,
day 1-10 take 1/2 a day
day 11-20 take 1/4 a day
day 21-30 take the smallest piece you possibly can.
JUMP after day 30 (meaning no more opiates)
You will need multivitamins, immodium and some sleeping aids. I prefer to get some xanax and take 5 days off of work.. You have only been dependent for a short while... you need to get that dose down to practically nothing for at least 10 days and jump from there.
If anybody ever wants to talk about bupe I am for it!! I seriously love the idea of having somebody else who knows exactly what im going through.
I can give you my opinion and share my experience with you. From talking with several doctors on this subject, I found that half of them feel like since addiction is a disease it should medically treated like any other disease same as heart disease, kidney disease etc...and stopping meds would be deadly. The other half feel like if a person wants to be totally free of subs they should only do so very slowly and a very small amount at a time in order to lower chances of relapse. I agree with both but I think it should be the patients choice...I don't think everyone is capable of coming off subs with no relapse. I think it depends on the person and how they feel. When I weaned off suboxone, (and i did NOT do this under my doctor's supervision)I started on 4mgs a day, I went down to 2mgs for 3or 4 dys, which was uncomfortable for a few days, then down to 1 and 1/2mg for 3 dys, then 1mg for a few dys, then 1/2mg...I was on 1/2mg for maybe 4 dys, it kept me from being sick but that was about it. The day after my last dose I honestly didn't have bad physical withdraw, maybe a little diarrhea for a few dys, not much at all but the depression kicked in and wouldn't let up. I was not on an antidepressant or anything so I was back taking suboxone within 2 wks. Looking back I think if my depression had been under control I might have kicked subs for good. The doctor I was seeing at the time told me it was "safer" to be on a small dose for the rest of my life.... I found out recently that I'm pregnant, a total surprise/shock for my husband and me, so for now I'm back on subutex (in my state, TN only pregnant women can get subutex) they will not detox pregnant women off of suboxone/subutex... but the good thing is after the baby is born they will work with women to taper off slowly it's my understanding this particular process takes 6 months. I didn't mean to write a book, just make sure this is something you really want and feel you're at a place mentally/emotionally to taper off and be successful. I send you all the positive/happy thoughts in the world ;)
I agree Catdog, you and I had a very similar plan for the taper. 7-10 days at a level is something I completely agree with especially with where this specific person is at. They can make the transition now! Keep this thread up guys! Just for reference, I just filled Roxanne Labs subutex again in South Florida. So were still good down here...
The Surfboards are alive and well in Durham, NC - I've been stockpiling. Its becoming a mental temptation actually. *tries not to think about it*.
Down to about a half or a 1/3rd a day, and have been steadily cruising there. Need to bring it down some more, but it gets uncomfortable - at work I'll be sweaty and immediately subordinates and the userbase start to notice 'Why are you so sweaty?' etc. Very difficult. Many guides online point out what you did Bri which was to take off a week if possible, When I first quit cold turkey (few years ago, before first getting onto suboxone strips) I did it this way, after doing 80-120mg oxy a day. Was some rough times. For those who feel like there really isnt a way out and you'll always be hooked (the mental part) Suboxone really does break the chains in your head and let you feel like you did before you were ever addicted. That for me is what was the inspiration.
Having to chase down things, constantly in fear of running out, etc - it consumes your whole life it feels like! I bet everyone here has driven some ridiculous distance to go get something because they were sick.
Stay strong, and I'll keep checking back, good luck to everyone and always remember that there are so many people who are refusing to try to live a different life, but would rather keep going down the dark path, so be proud of yourself for what you've already accomplished.
You're very wrong. That outdated cold turkey routine does not work for everyone or even many. I have been thru 3 rehabs, er's and prison. Always pushing abstinence and 12 steps with a heavy handed religious theme. It took 30 years of addiction and no solutions. Constant relapses. That was until I discovered Suboxone/subutex. It saved my life. I owe my life, job, my happy children and all of life I have recovered. I am not a MD in addiction and neither are you. That cold turkey/weaning is dangerous. That type of recovery isn't even safe outside a hospital. Give all sides. If I could help one person I am successful.
Since I wrote last, I'm proud to say I am perk free sinese ce...I was able to stop these also. I went through 2 months of depression, lost 20 pounds and felt like all was lost. I hung in there and my mental health is strong once again. I feel great and gained 10 pounds back. Life is good and I wish you all a safe and happy holiday season. If I could do it, so can you. Stay strong and stay blessed!
Medman!
I was told for 8 years that I could not become pregnant. Long story short I was 3 months pregnant when I found out and immediately detoxed from opiates to subutex. I never took my recommended dose. I was prescribed 3 - 8mg subs a day. I started taking 2 a day and ended my full term pregnancy taking 1 a day. My daughter spent the normal 2 days in the hospital with me. Then an additional 3 in nicu which is manditory when a child has any controlled substance in their system. Hospitals do a point scale to rate infants detox symptoms. 1 being best and 25 being the worst. Your child had to score an 8 to be released. My child stayed at 4 points most of the time and day 4 was 5 points. My child points that were counted off were excessive sucking, muscle tightness, mild irritability, and constant yawning. These symptoms tore me apart. It hurt so bad to see her like that, but when I walked the halls of nicu and saw the other babies withdrawing from coke, methadone, ect. I was thankful. The other babies were under weight, premature, in incubators, constant screaming. My baby had a heart rate monitor that showed normal readings and a normal baby bed. In still on subutex and breastfeeding my 3 month healthy baby girl.
Holy s***, what doc would prescribe sub and xanax bars? I need that doc. I spend all my day just trying to survive and keep my anxiety at a manageable level.
I just wanted to post this BC I want people to know that no matter how low you cut your dose down to while being pregnant your baby will still suffer!! It happened to me and I'm not saying this to be rude or hateful, I just dont want any mother to have to go through what me and my baby went through!! I was prescribed 2 8mg subutex and tapered down to about 1mg a day and my baby had to spend a month in the nicu being pumped full of morphine and phenobarbital. By the way you have no say so whatsoever about the meds they give your baby either!! It was the hardest most heartbreaking thing that I have ever had to go through!! The best advice I can give anyone is that you should try to get completely off of them when you're in your second trimester. The Dr's will tell you that the subutex doesn't affect your baby and I can tell you first hand that they're full of s***!!!! Good luck to everyone!!
@Johnny... Most people would judge as you did and then realize how ignorant and insensitive d***** bags they are for spittin a bunch of bulls*** they know nothing at all about!!!! Do your research before you open your mouth!!!
Re: Valerie (# 98)
Make sure you are sick, not just runny nose and a few body aches. I would wait a minimum of 36 hours or more since you have taken a narcotic. Otherwise you will go into precipitated withdrawal which will make you want to die. NO JOKE. When you are good and sick break off a small piece of the suboxone and see how you feel and gradually take more until you reach your full dose. It may take ya a couple days. I have been on subs since 2008 and know it well. Good luck.
Brendinni,are you prescribed for pain or addiction? My husband has been on perks for close to 5 yes now & has just recently been shut off. Fortunately he has tried the subutex,not suboxen because they make him sick(gag) from the taste. He's now trying to find a Dr that will prescribe them for his pain. Any suggestions?
Good Job!!! Keep it up, keep breaking them in half and keep whittling down.
By the way, these CAN be faxed in to the pharmacy. I just got my last RX, going to go for it. 120 8mb moons and 180 2mg Xanaxes. I'm sure with enough self control it will be more than enough to quit.
I feel you Brendinni about skipping doses because you don't feel the urge. That's a good sign! :)
Your both wrong, the half life of bupe is 36.5 hrs. NOT 2, days and certainly not 3!!
Medman, where do you live that they are prescribing those for pain? My husband got off the pain meds 5 months ago and has since been waiting to find a place that will prescribe them for pain!
Sorry, I was lucky to get them.I am a veteran. so disabled in my back.
medMan,
I read your post again and I would like to revise my last post.
I must have missed the part where you said you are already down to 3/4mg a day, that is really awsome - something to be very proud of. ..plus it sounds like you really want to be off of subs. If you have enough to continue to taper(getting down to 1/2mg, a 1/4mg would be even better) your withdrawal with be minimal if any at all.... in my experience the depression is the hardest, but that was only my experience, hopefully you will be fine:)
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