Opioids & U.s. Senate

U.S. Senate has succumbed/conspired with health providers to practically eliminate severe or chronic pain med for the elderly. Some 16,800 deaths of young drug mixing punks & the cost of providing these meds; has caused the low level intelligence & greedy health providers to furiously lobby (bribe) the U. S. Senate to order a 40% decrease in severe/chronic meds for the elderly; not for young drug mixing "punks" because they will mix something else. It has been shown that the Senate members have been drunk or half drunk in decisions like this. Proof of the aforesaid? here it is: the Senate ignores 1.6 millions of deaths & or severe mutilations due to alcohol. Senators have never done heavy strenuous work that by the time you are 65/70 years old, everything hurts to a more or lesser degree. If the elderly & or severely injured/impaled were allowed to obtain these meds, even at a higher cost, they would be able to live somewhat normal lives & still be productive members of society. Solution: health providers should increase the charge to patients to cover costs and anyone under 60 years of age should be scrutinized thoroughly & no one should be allowed to take more than 3 or 4 10 MG per day. I have been taking 2 a day for 16 years & consider myself an expert on the subject. Anything more than 4 10 MG a day, would categorize you as an addict, according to all expert doctors on the subject.

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Oh boy. The war on drugs need not include the elderly. Just that. The elderly have paid their dues as productive members of society. Bodies eventually break down. Out of respect, these older treasures of society should be cared for and secure as to their level of comfort. True, the punks WILL find a way to overdose. Their craving is the next, higher, high. For the seniors, they simply wish to enjoy the years they have left. That's all. It's a slap to their face to stick them in pain management and monitor their urine. They take their med as prescribed by their doctors, because, you know, the docs know best.

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Re: JMJ (# 1)

Why should it be just elderly! Not all younger people are taking narcotics for the high! I’m now 58, but I’ve been on narcotics for a severe back condition for about 15 years and have never abused them! Being on narcotics kept me able to work full time, raise my family and be able to participate in life. Without them I would have ended up on Medicaid letting you and the rest of the taxpayers take care of me and my family. The bottom line is the Government doesn’t care about any of the chronic pain patients. They don’t know or care about the difference between dependence and addiction. Their goal is to do away with narcotics completely outside the hospital setting and if the rest of us want to commit suicide because of unrelieved pain it will make their job easier because those deaths will also be blamed on the opioid crisis and never talked about.

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I just cannot dial in on what exactly the problem is. We know that there has been a real terror driven campaign against opioid use--even for legitimate, legal, long term pain sufferers. This was started and fueled by the abusers of illegal street heroin, fentanyl, and other illegal substances. This does not even take into consideration the many criminals that steal their pain pills from relatives and pharmacies. The other day I read an article where a college student had overdosed from cocaine and the headline read "Promising College Student Gets Caught Up In Opioid Crisis". Overdosing on cocaine has nothing to do with opioids but this is what these hysterical and uninformed so called reporters write. I am now wondering if these law makers think that one of the ways to lower Social Security payouts is to make the seniors lives miserable and shorter. Just a thought. Until yesterday it never dawned on me that many Pharmacies are telling people that present scripts for pain medications that they are out or they will take some time to get the prescription filled because they do not want it known that they have these pain meds on hand because of the robberies of the Pharmacies. Some, I understand, has stopped stocking pain medications altogether to hopefully put a stop to the spree of armed robberies at the Pharmacies. I guess they feel that if it becomes known in the criminal community that a certain Pharmacy does not have the pain medications in stock there that the criminals will go elsewhere. It is like a bank robber going into a bank and not being able to get any money. They will find a better target and go there.

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Re: JMJ (# 1)

40 mg's of what, expert ? LMAO.. 40 mg's may work for you but not others. Everyone's pain is different and everyone may have different relief levels from pain meds. You can't put everyone in " one group " and expert the same outcome/benefit of pain relief. I've chosen to stay on the lowest strength opioid, Norco for last 4 1/2 years and refuse any stronger opioid meds. even when I was provided stronger for break-through pain following multiple shoulder surgeries. My case if one of a shoulder surgery gone WAY BAD resulting in chronic pain and have had 4 other surgeries without improvement. 50 mgs a day is where I set my limit, does not make my shoulder pain free by no means,, but makes it bearable and as the meds wear off the pain ends my day, everyday. RAISE THE COST, now that's a hell of a solution , so if people can't afford or insurance companies think charges are to much and deny, then people suffer in PAIN ? Elderly & people of all ages should be provided the best medical treatment, that being controlling their pain for some quality of life. Manufactures are all ready making a ton of money. Just had a Ortho Doc tell me last week the day is coming when no Doctors in California will be writing prescriptions for opioid meds. in the state in the next few years. By the way, I take 10mgs more than your mentioned limit of 40mgs, I a addict by your statement which couldn't be farther than the truth. Medical industry are forcing people to look outside of their hospital/ medical provider for pain relief and as a result people are dying . """" U. S. Senate to order a 40% decrease in severe/chronic meds for the elderly""""" Probably due to Medicare understanding chronic pain and approving opioid meds when everyone else acting like there is no need for opioids NOW. Enough.............

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I'm just so sick of doctors policing us instead of treating us I've suffered because doctors being afraid to treat chronic pain patients I'm ready move to another country this one messed up not my fault docs prescribed wrong people they did it for money they really don't care covering their own butt while we are suffering no more Marcus welbys these new doctors into status money why I'm suffering

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Susie (# 3) --

We have to suffer because of Doctors who prescribed these drugs to people who really didn't need them. I am in pain every day I take 10 mg Norco 4x a day along with 30 mg of morphine sulfate 2x a day and it seems like these drug companies are cutting the ingredients because they are not as strong as they use to be and a lot of people have complained about it. But yet heroin addicts who overdose they are giving narcan to bring them back to life so they can go out and do more heroin but we are be limited to how many pills we can get. They need to stop playing doctors and let the doctors be doctors like they were meant to be. This is getting to be like Russia.

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Susie (# 3) --

They will put you on gabapentin instead. They want to give people drugs to be on the rest of your life instead of opiates. It's all about $.

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I've been on the same dosage, 10/325 four per day, (which I usually break in half and only use what I need, when needed), since 2005 when my doctor told me that I'd be on this medication for the rest of my life.
I have severe degenerative disk disease with the latest MRI showing 8 disks messed up and two sections bone on bone. I had two surgeries which never really helped.

I had another doctor in 1994 tell me that I needed the steel rods and plate in my back otherwise I'd be in a wheelchair within a year. Medical panic selling! I refused that surgery and told that doctor that he was looking for a down payment for a new Mercedes and I walked out. 23 years later and I'm still walking!

I've tried the steroid shots and those other inj's. that deaden the nerves. I had one steroid shot that worked great for about 2 months, but everything else was a waste of time and a lot of extra pain. I found out later that the doctor giving those shots lost his license because patients were dying. Either from bad steroids or for overusing those shots on his patients. At that time they said you could have 3 shots per year, and he was probably doubling that.

I eventually went to the University of Illinois in Chicago to see a teaching doctor. He is on salary and doesn't have to cut for money. He said the same thing as the other doctor said about having to be on this opioid medication for the rest of my life, and that surgery is no longer an option. Another surgery would do nothing to eliminate the pain!

I even tried the Fentanyl Patch and that was a waste of time. It didn't even come close to what they said it would do so I quit that garbage.

A lot of this started after a construction accident in 1985 when an employee removed scaffolding and didn't let anyone else know what he did, which caused my fall. I was a member of two Unions, Laborer's and Carpenter's Unions who both wrote me off and denied me any form of disability pensions and tossed me out as a member.

USA, the throw away society! Typical on what happens in the USA these days! Just look at how they also treat their own injured military?

Also the Workers Compensation the lawyers must have taken that because I never received any payments from that scam insurance and never signed any settlements and they closed the case. That was just adding insult to injury and causing more pain and suffering, and losing our home in the process!

I have a friend who is now glued to his wheelchair because they cut him off cold-turkey. He's been on the same dosage for 36 years after having both hips replaced and never abused it. He even asked me if I ever got "high" from the medication and I said no. He said that is exactly how it works. Chronic pain sufferers don't get "high", they get some pain relief to allow them to live somewhat of a normal life. Without the medication we don't do anything now because of the pain levels we live with on a daily basis.

They say there is an Opioid crisis? If they could collect tax dollars on that medication, there would be no crisis! The biggest crisis this country has going now is the MONEY ADDICTION CRISIS! You can thank the Politicians and Corporate America for causing that mess!

Money drunks, or money addicts, have all the same dysfunctions as the alcohol addicts, drug addicts, or anyone else with addictions that takes them over. The sad thing about that is, is that when they are "IN IT" they usually don't know it and can't see, and they will do anything they can to get more of what they need that provides them their fix.

So now I'm waiting on the Medical Marijuana Card, not for the POT, but so I can get away from the opioids and use the real CBD oils. Not the garbage they sell at the health food stores! Those real CBD oils they say are great for pain relief and there is no "high" with it because there is little or no THC included in those oils.
That must have BIG PHARMA concerned about that now! That will cause their profits to drop when most of us make that switch! I've met quite a few people that have made that switch from the opioids to the CBD oils and it has changed their lives greatly for the better. (Maybe that will end up becoming the nonaddictive pain reliever they talk about replacing the opioids?)

But I'm sure that will get ruined too after they legalize the marijuana for recreational use and the real teenager potheads will cause a crisis there too and have it shut down. Unless the States bring in those huge tax dollars, that feeds their money addictions, and then they will allow it to continue. Just like the alcohol and tobacco!

The pain medication they had me on at first was made through Watson. That medication worked the best, but they were bought out by Actavis and they destroyed the formulation. Most of the other drug companies did the same thing and even started to add in an anti-abuse filler to try to stop the street junkies from abusing the medication. That also made the chronic pain sufferers sick as well. I even ended up having my gallbladder removed after they changed their formulations. At that time, the hospital said they were doing over 100 gallbladder removal surgeries every week.

When people actually start to wake up to what is really happening out there, they will start to research on their own other ways to get pain relief and get away from BIG PHARMA who are only out to make as much money as they can to feed their money addictions and their shareholder's money addictions.

We're supposed to be concerned about the kids abusing the drugs and overdosing and dying? I might have been concerned about that at one time, but to make me suffer more because of their stupidity makes no sense. And now they eat Tide Pods and insufflate condoms? Are they going to discontinue Tide Pods and condoms too now? I wonder if they got "high" on insulin, if the diabetics would have to find something else to treat their condition because the street junkies also ruined that?

Find me a teenage street junkie with a great spine, that they could switch their spine with mine, and they can have my spine and all the drugs that goes with it! If that was possible, I'd do it now!

This country is a total mess! Wake up people! The very people you once had faith and trust in for doing their jobs ethically and in your best interest, is now how much can they collect by panic selling you into something, and possibly cause you more pain and suffering, just to use you as the middle person to get to that insurance payout.

People might suggest for you to go seek legal advise afterwards? Don't waste your time! The lawyers are out to protect the wealthy corrupt, and the victims of their scams will only end up suffering more!

When you live through it and survive it, share it, so other people can be better informed and NOT have to become their next victims.

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Re: John (# 4)

Did I misread JMJ#1 post? Where was it posted IN THAT POST that 40 mgs of______ is the correct amount of medication and any more than that indicates a "drug addict"? I have reread that post and I must be missing something.

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Re: John (# 4)

Oh, John, as far as I know I never said 40 mgs, was anything, did I? I have NEVER taken 40mgs of ANYTHING. WOW! If I said THAT I don't know where, lol. I take at most 10mg! Maybe I responded to a post without having read it well. I don't know. Am at a loss!

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Re: John (# 4)

I don't even see where you got what you say I've said that. I would not say that. I understand different needs for different people. Please cut and paste my words because this sorta blows my mind. It's just not the type of comment I would make. If I somehow conveyed THAT, then please, show this. It just doesn't make sense. I don't judge, not when it comes to chronic pain!

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Re: Claude (# 2)

Oh, Claude, somehow, it seems, I managed to convey something I never intended. I never meant to cast aspersions on the younger chronic pain patient. For goodness sakes, I was one myself!!!! Wow, seems my foot made its way to my mouth. Never want to be judgemental. Why would i? I identify with you and others like you. I too have had a life of pain since I was young...33. I've lived it morning noon and night. I would be an hypocrite if I meant to say what you think I did. And I am no hypocrite. Stupid sometimes, but no hypocrite!

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Re: JMJ (# 10)

You know, I don't even know what I'm saying here. 10mgs, 40mgs. What's it to me? Only care that we get what we need!

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Re: JMJ (# 12)

I’m truly sorry. I didn’t mean to sound like I was attacking you. By the end of the day when I’m reading through these I’m in pain and irritable. Please forgive me. We all need to somehow stick together. Too bad none of us are well enough to march on Washington like every other group!

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Re: Claude (# 14)

This is plain cruel!! Do they expect us to turn to the streets! My SSI would never make it!

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So your an expert on your life but what an ***** to tell anyone the dose for their pain and disease. We are not all the same and I’m 55 and suffer daily. I only wish you would come walk in my shoes for just a few hours on what you take for meds. I guarantee you will want your life back because I have chronic pain and my life sucks because of the opioid issue. I didn’t ask to be put on this, nor did I ask for my disease, but here I am dealing with it.

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Randy: Opioids US Senate

That was a really good post. I loved the point you made about the fact that most of those Senators never worked 40 hours a week doing hard labor. They don't know what it's like to break down by 45 and feel like 70. I am from a family of laborers. Flooring, builders, electricians, mechanics, etc. You were spot on with that. Of course, so was the rest of your post. Plus if they do happen to have a chronic pain issue, you can bet they will never have to do without proper care, no matter what THEY happen to sign into law.

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Randy you are right about the Senate needing to stay out of health care but as far as you being the poster child for the amount of pain meds that people with chronic pain needs to take is far from being an intelligence statement or the advice of an so called expert . Everyone is different everyones conditions are different so the amount of pain meds needed to relieve their pain will be different . Any doctor that would categorize anyone taking more pain meds than you to be an addicts are of low intelligence and ignorant to the fact and I don't believe statement Leave judging other people in pain and the amount of pain meds they take to the man upstairs and their Doctors. You probably had good intentions on your post but think of others before you say whats on your mind. " one size shoe don't fit everyone" .

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Re: w john (# 9)

I think they are getting that from saying 10 mg and 4 a day and anything more makes an addict. I believe that's where the 40 mg comment is coming from because that equals out.

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Re: Claude (# 14)

Claude, not to worry, I was just a bit bewildered over one guy saying I'm calling people addicts if they use over 40mg a day, and then somehow implying something offensive to young pain patients. Not above saying something stupid from time to time, that's for sure, but rereading my own post, I just wasn't seeing it.

Glad we're square now. And yep, we need to be advocates and not detractors. Being med free for the next 12 days and not even sure if I will get my regular med refill because of doctor changes at my regular office, I may start chomping heads off in a bit. lol

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w john (# 24) --

Excellent post! Truly spot on! It really is no one's business who takes what, it's between the doctor and the patient!

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Re: Shay (# 42)

That plus it does absolutely nothing for actual pain!!

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Re: Steve (# 7)

Long time use of Gabapentin will cause: Brain fog and memory loss. This drug is in Lyrica. The drug the FDA has approved for Fibromyalgia and Diabetics. Beware of this drug.

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12 months of investigative reporting & statistics from several governmental agencies; have shown without equivocation, that the opioids epidemic is a "politico economical" strategy used by the unscrupulous but powerful CEOs of several nationwide, heath providers, in conjunction with just as unscrupulous -but half drunk- members of Congress, that fanned the spread of a fabricated or exaggerated opioids epidemic. Proof of the false alarm, came out of health & other governmental agencies, that quantified the deaths attributed to "addicted" opioid users. Figures vary from 15,000 to over 20,000. BUT, all agencies, governmental or other, agree that practically all of those deaths were people under 50 years of age. Which brings us to the same conclusion: "young punks" (as people call them) are preventing us -the elderly- from taking our much needed pain killers, that allow us to live our lives in tolerable pain & still trying to be productive members of society. Our call & cry goes out to unscrupulous health providers & Congresspersons; to make adjustments on the "per pill price" so as not to cause an insurmountable burden difficult to absorb on all health providers. $1.00 or even $2.00 "per pill" could be justified, as long as we, the elderly can live in somewhat tolerable pain.

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Under the old formulation "anything more than 3 or 4 10mg per day" I could probably agree. However, the new reformulated generics are almost totally ineffective. I took the Watson brand of generic hydrocodone for almost 12 years with never a complaint. Then Watson was stopped being produced and Walgreens replaced them with the "Actavis" brand. The "Actavis" brand of hydrocodone is worthless and totally ineffective. Tylenol or Advil off the shelf is just as good. So while you may consider yourself an "expert" your information on the generics, at least, is incorrect. This is one thing I KNOW.

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Re: w john (# 37)

Again, it appears as if I am replying to my own comment and, to some degree, I guess I am. I got the Court ruling from the Administrative Judge yesterday and it was, as they put it, not favorable,. I beat every objection that that insurance company had put in my way. EXCEPT ONE. They said that I must get my Doctor to write the name brand is medically necessary. I testified that my current Doctor does not have all of my records so could not testify truthfully about my needs. They agreed that I had went through the "step therapy" that had been used as an excuse for denying my request for the name brand medication. In fact there were several things that were used to deny my request and I successfully argued them all. All except the so called requirement that my Doctor state that my request is medically necessary. That are asking my Doctor to commit perjury because my Doctor does not have my records going back over 12 years. I have had four Doctors and lived in two States since 2006. I stated that the new reformulated generics are ineffective and my Doctor said that is hard to argue because they will look at what you say as "your opinion". My Doctor cannot say that the medications that I have been taking for over 12 years are not effective because their is no proof that the new generics have been reformulated.if there were scientific analogies to prove they were reformulated then I might have an argument but without proof it is my word against theirs. In a civil case the burden of proof is "more likely than not". It is not like, in Criminal cases, "beyond a REASONABLE doubt". The stating by the Administrative Law Judge that I have to PROVE my statement is totally unreasonable and pretextual. So I am going to appeal further. The so calle "rules" have been se up in such a way as they are requiring me to prove a negative. I am going to appeal further and get this set aside if there is any way possible. Because there is a lack of proof to deny that I am telling the truth they are taking the insurance companies word for it with no proof on their side.

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Just the facts here- anyone can google opioid deaths and see the majority die from street drugs and black market fentanyl. There are some deaths from RX pain meds, but it doesn’t say if was the patient who was prescribed the meds or someone who got them on the street. There are street drugs that LOOK like RX, but have the “bathtub fentanyl” in them. All the hysteria over deaths from people willfully abusing street drugs is causing legitimate pain patients to be cut back to the point some are suffering so badly they take their own life. They don’t list those deaths separately. My first ortho surgery was at age 8. I worked so hard to be able to walk. I won’t go in a wheelchair willingly! I was handed over to pain management when the surgeons could do no more for me. I was able to take care of myself and live a good life for about 15 years. I didn’t worry about pain. I never abused my meds for the simple reason if I did I’d run out, and without pain relief life’s just not worth living. I don’t want to be a burden on my kids or anyone else. My mind is still sharp, but my body won’t cooperate. All went fine until my Dr. whom I’d trusted for years insisted I be put on an expensive fentanyl sublingual spray (600mcg 6x a day) I wanted no part of it. I’ll need pain meds the rest of my life and knew to save the strongest for when I have no other choice. The generic pills I took worked fine. I was told I had to take the SubSys or nothing! Blackmail! I moved to a small town with a new pain Dr. and after some awful withdrawal (I was only on that stuff 2 months!) my body finally adjusted to the minimum amount we agreed would be best.Years went by with no increase. I’d seen what taking too strong a dose could do. Nope. Not interested!
Then the cutbacks started. The news was full of opioid overdoses, drug seeking patients that lied and went to multiple Dr’s and pharmacies, some selling the meds and “pill mills” that gave narcotics to anyone with cash. Gradually my “minimum dose” that worked was cut back more and more. It took months for my body to adjust to more pain with less medication, now I’m told more cuts are coming. I’ve adjusted so far, but to lose even more when I barely made it through this last winter...I just can’t face another winter with the extra pain knowing I won’t even have the amount that wasn’t enough last winter! I’m going to enjoy this summer, but I don’t expect to make it through another winter. I’m getting my affairs in order. What’s really sad is that it’s not pain patients who are overdosing, but we pay the price. If the drug companies had name brand drugs to get rich from they’d never stand for this assault on their profits! They were caught in their SubSys scam... but now as “the good guys” they are getting rich from the drugs to treat addicts, Suboxone and Subutex. Just watch. When those go generic they’ll declare it inhumane to allow people to suffer and promote their next wonder drug. It’ll be “safe and abuse proof” just like OxyContin was.

I found out later SubSys was a scam to put patients on an expensive (thousands a month) name brand only med only approved for cancer patients! Dr’s of course were told it was safe and good for all kinds of pain, from headaches to cancer!

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Re: John (# 36)

I will give you a more detailed reply hopefully by tomorrow. Just so you will know I am in Colorado but the hearing will be held in the Kansas City, Missouri Court. Let me say briefly that I have had 3 Neurology Associates Offices state that my shoulder has an inoperable condition and they "MAY" be able to improve it but after surgery, months of rehabilitation, and an awful looking scar it may only be 10% better. They said I had three options. The surgery, shots, or, if I tolerated the pain medications okay I could just stay on that. I chose to stay on the pain medication and it was effective for over 12 years with no problems until the so called "opioid crisis" and the manufacturers attempted to reformulate and remanufacture the pain pills. Like I posted earlier, TWO pharmacists that I have known for years told me off the record to pursue the name brand Vicodin because they have had no complaint about them. They have not been reformulated and remanufactured. I will keep you posted and give more details tomorrow. It is late here and I do not have the time to post all of the details today.

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Re: w john (# 33)

Wow my friend, we are in the same boat going down the river, my river is in Sacramento, Ca., where's yours located? I had been on Qualitest Generic Norco 10/325 4 years and didn't realize how good of product it was at controlling my pain until Kaiser hospital switched to Mallinckrodt Norco Aug. 2017. 2 pills and I got sick to my stomach, host of allergic reactions got worse over next 2 weeks including withdrawals with little to no pain control and had me on meds for vomiting, lost 10 lbs. My Kaiser Doc told pharmacy to only fill RX with Qualitest Norco, they refused so I filed a complaint and they refused my Doc's request. Kaiser then also refused to provide "Brand" meds saying there were too many generic Norco's on the market although still refused to order any other Generic Norco for me, WTH. My Doc said he couldn't believe it, option then was to put me on Oxycodone/Percocet which I had to take immediately for some pain relief. I blew up telling Kaiser they don't practice what the preach, Kaiser's writings advise to take the weakest opioid possible. Told Doc Oxycodone was too strong, concerned about driving my car, he then advised my body would adjust to it, I told him that's exactly what I didn't want to happen, be more dependent on a stronger opioid than needed. I was forced to pay out of pocket for Qualitest Norco I found at a private pharmacy. Next Surgeon at Stanford said not very optimistic they could improve my shoulder but didn't think they could make it any worse. After all the B.S. above I took the risk & had the 4th surgery, no improvement, zero, none. Although to justify their procedure the report said 'pain improved', took me 7 months to get Stanford to make the report accurate, pain not improved, although damage was already done. Immediately following their report worker's come insurance company refused to pay for opioid meds. NOW my pharmacy stopped carrier Qualitest Norco and went to Tris Pharmacy Inc. Norco, not as good for pain control. New PM Doc last week ordered me Gabapentin for nerve damage/pain & to also lower my Norco/opioid intake and insurance company "refused to pay for Gabapentin", WTH, makes a lot of sense, huh. I'm now on my way to pharmacy to pay out of pocket for this product, hope it helps. If not I'm at the point to stay on Qualitest Norco if I can find and tell everyone to leave me the hell alone. I'm on SSDI & Medicare w/ Kaiser coverage & still have Workers Comp. Ins., open claim and I'M paying for pain meds with money I DON'T HAVE, crazy & wrong. A friend has had to be on Norco over 25 yrs, not organ damage. SORRY for the long writing but PLEASE let me know the outcome of your appeal hearing & State of which it is held in. Hope you are successful my friend because chronic pain is hell on earth without all this other B.S.!

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I posted my story here about a month ago, and since then I have received the medical cannabis card.
(It only took about 3 months to get due to the slow process in Illinois government)

I tried the CBD oil for pain relief and so far it has been working great!
I've cut my dosage in half with the Endocet and I should be completely off of them in another month or so.

I first tried the CBD oil from a health food store, but it did nothing and it only made me sick from the fillers they had added to it.

The "real" CBD oil from the dispensary is a lot better, and it has some THC, but not enough to really get "high" on if you use it correctly.
Besides getting great pain relief, I only get a calming affect that also helps with my anxiety, depression. STRESS, and PTSD.

They have a lot of other products to try so it might take some time to figure out what works best for my situation.
I don't like the "high" associated with the products that contain higher levels of THC and only try out the products that have the highest CBD content.
And supposedly NOT addictive!!!
I also found that I could drop one of the blood pressure medications they had me on. Apparently the CBD oil helps lower blood pressure too!
And no, I'm not a pot head! I hate the smell and taste of that, but the oils and edibles are definitely worth checking into.

I heard that the Illinois Senate passed a law allowing doctors who are prescribing their patients the opioids can now prescribe the use of medical cannabis for chronic pain? And then those patients can receive a temporary medical cannabis card for one year?
Wouldn't it be great if insurance covered that?
Maybe someday after enough people find out the real benefits from using it they'll change things.
That is if BIG PHARMA allows it!

The only downside I see with this type of treatment for pain relief is, how long will it be when they decide to say we're in a medical cannabis crisis and then ruin that for us chronic pain sufferers too?
There probably won't be a crisis though since the medical cannabis is "taxed".

Like I said before, if they could collect taxes on the opioids there would be no crisis.
If they weren't collecting taxes on the alcohol and tobacco, those products would be banned too because of the crisis they have caused with all the dangers and deaths associated with those products over many decades.
But those in power who are addicted to the MONEY allow that to continue, as long as they get their cut!

But so far, this real CBD oil has been working great!
Hopefully they will add this to health insurance benefits and lower the costs.

Remember though that the real worst crisis in this country is the "MONEY ADDICTION crisis or MONEY DRUNKS crisis"!
Think about that one for a while, and hopefully you'll see it, if you haven't already noticed it before.

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So I've been doing some research and came across these new drugs out now or coming soon. Just wanted anyone's op...

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My friend took a subutex at 6:30 this morning after not touching opioids since 5pm the night before. She had only been t...

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I was watching the House of Reps today on Cspan. They are still discussing what to do with this. I hear them saying how ...

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I need help. I'm getting a vivitrol shot in 2 days. I have taken opioids up until last night. I want information fro...

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I am a 30 yr old with a past of opiate addiction, from hydro to oxy to H, got clean for 7 years and about a year and a h...

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My hubby and I started suboxone 9/9/16. Been taking opioids for a few yrs and have a high tolerance. I waited 24hrs befo...

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How long do I need to be off Contrave prior to having a significant orthopedic procedure which I know I will need opioid...

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Mpathia in RI: I have read so many things and there is definitely something going on behind the scenes. Yes, ALL of you ...

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