New Subutex Laws (Page 5) (Top voted first)

I went to see my doctor this week and he told me that the FDA and the DEA had passed a new law for prescribing Subutex. As of July 1st 2015 Subutex can only be given to pregnant woman or to someone with documentation saying they can't take Suboxone. If you don't have that you will be put on Suboxone.

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No they are not the same thing. Do your research Jim.

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Re: Isabella (# 303)

U r very right, I doubt that was a l.p.n. They're a very stupid person and I'm getting scared that they are trying so hard to get drugs off the streets that it's gonna hurt people on subutex or suboxone. I can't believe the 2 a day thing. I think they just made that up. I'm taking 3 suboxone a day and wish I could have 4-5. Everybody has a different tolerance.

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Re: Jim (# 9)

Who do you think you are other than a judgemental *****? You have no clue. Being man enough or strong enough or having balls is not the point. If you've never been an addict then stay off these sites regarding this. Oh and for the record they do give alcoholics medicine to stop drinking. I'm a nursing aide and phlebotomist and I know that!! What the problem is, is there's always bad apples that ruin it for everyone. The ones who use the program and use it correctly need the program. I take my meds the right way. I go to my group meetings as well as na meetings and therapy. I do not plan to be on this drug for life, I just couldn't do it myself alone so I went and got help!!! I'm actually not allergic to the naloxone, I'm allergic to the ingredients in Suboxone and actually had a horrid reaction to it and was hospitalized because my throat closed up!!! So please before you go on here and act like you know what the hell you're talking about, check yourself and stop being such a ****!

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Re: Jim (# 3)

I take Xanax and subutex, work at an IT company making 45,000 a year. I'm happy

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Hi I was just wanting to know if anyone knows if it is safe to mix Naloxone and Methotrexate. I have been taking Subutex for about 9 months and as of July 1st because of a new law that has been passed my doctor has to swap me to Suboxone and it has Naloxone in it. Does anyone know if this is safe?

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Ok they approved them. My last two post will be helpful if you are looking for info on this new law.

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Michael, I take suboxone for pain by choice to control my chronic pain from RA that simply will not respond to treatment. I have mixed methotrexate and suboxone for 2 years now with no issues. I'm at .5ml injections, but have been as high as 1ml as I don't seem to absorb the pills.

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U have no idea what u r speaking of. It's stupidity like yours that's causing hundreds of thousands of people to get back on street drugs.

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Who are you calling stupid Chris?

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To all the negative peoples comments, naloxan constricts the blood vessels in the users brain causing long term migrain headaches. This medication is to help people not cause more damage.

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Actually, ETOH destroys brain cells and they don' t recover. It also destroys organs and lives and families. If ETOH detox is not handled properly, the alcoholic could die.

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I was talking about the POST ACUTE WITHDRAWAL SYNDROME that many opiate addicts experience, not the actual DETOX. of course during detox for alcohol, there should be some sort of benzos given. and i also understand that a person can die from extreme alcohol withdrawal. it was always alcohol, benzo and barbiturate withdrawal that could kill you. not opiate withdrawal. we now know that extreme opiate withdrawal can kill a person, mainly because of it exacerbating other pre-existing conditions. for example, check out "ben, diary of a opiate addict" on youtube. the guy went into such sudden, extreme opiate withdrawal that he died of a brain aneurism that was brought on by the opiate withdrawal. if a person has a heart condition, high blood pressure, seizure disorders, etc, sudden extreme opiate withdrawal can kill them. but back to my main point....

personally, i DO think severe or long-term alcoholics would greatly be helped by a small dose of benzos. but as i was saying, the opiate-addicted brain stops producing natural endorphins. the addict may be through the ACUTE stage of withdrawal/detox, but they can go months and even years without feeling "right" or "normal". this is a huge part of why opiate addiction has such a high recidivism/relapse rate. so i was talking about long term, PAWS symptoms, not detox. anyone who is physically addicted to alcohol, benzos or barbiturates MUST detox in a medical setting or risk seizures and even death.

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Or suicide. You raise some very valid points. I'm not a pharmacologist or a substance abuse counselor. Im a microbiologist. Everything I know about substance abuse I learned from an opiate addict. Many of them are more informed about abuse and withdrawal and addictive drugs than physicians. Thanks for your input. I learned.

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It is true I'm from Tennessee as well,, I went to my subutex doctor only and I was switched.

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Yes it is true and the law is stated in Tennessee SB871.n Just Google it. Also, it also prohibits doctors from prescribing anything containing buprenorphine for anything other than opiate withdrawal. My doctor was prescrobing it to me for chronic pain. 8mg a day for a little over a year now, and as of July 1. 2015 he just cut me completely off of it and said that there was nothing he could do, not even help me wean down. Also, I could not get it from another doctor because I had never taken it for opiate addiction...so that was a real shocker to me. I don't know what I am going to do. I just have a few left and I have heard horror stories about the withdrawals from buprenorphine!! If anyone can advise me on how to get through this easier, please do

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Hi I seen your post. I am trying to do research on the new law that has passed. You sound like your very familier with the new law and you have done your research. So this is my question, I have been on Subutex for 8 months bc I was pregnant. I recently had the baby as of June 15th 2015. They just switched me to zubzolv. It has naloxone in it and I heard when your breastfeeding the baby gets a portion of it and the baby can not take naloxone. The baby is only a month old so I am still breastfeeding. So, what do you think the new law says about that? I've had pharmacy look up the new law and tell me I am still supposed to be on the subutex since I am breastfeeding and also a lot of different people and a couple doctors. I want to make sure I am right about it before I threaten my doctor with my imaginary lawyer. LOL!! I think this is a bunch of bull. So can you please help me with this. Or if you can't help me do you know who else I can contact about it?

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Shelley you really need to talk to your doctor about this. As long as you are pregnant or breastfeeding you should be on subutex because you do pass the naloxone through your breast milk. My wife and I had a baby about two years ago and they kept her on subutex while she was breastfeeding. She is currently pregnant and her doctor told her he will keep her on subutex this time false for as long as she is breastfeeding.

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Mike here's the thing. My doctor refuses to put me back on the subutex. He says because the new law states that if you are not pregnant you can no longer take subutex. Regardless of breastfeeding mother's. He said that my insurance won't cover the subutex now that I've had the baby. And I called my Insurance company and proved him wrong. 2 different people told me the same thing. That I qualify for the subutex for 6 months after I had the baby. They also said there was never a new law stating if you are breastfeeding to change someone to suboxone.. If any laws had changed as far as that goes they would be the first to know. They said its been the same for years. And so I called my doctor and talked to him about what my Insurance company said he basically called me a lier and then he called them to find out if I was lying and put a wrench in it. Now there telling me I don't qualify sense he called. I don't get it...I don't know what to do about this. so now he's kicking me out for no reason and making me find another doctor and giving me a month supply of the suboxone. He is such a prick. A found a doc but most of them don't take Insurance. And they want 425 a month. Or they don't prescribe subutex. I'm soooo lost. I don't know what to do. I've also read the zubsolv and suboxone manufacturer website about breastfeeding and it says DO NOT.... But just wan't to say thanks for getting back to me.

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Methotrexate is not an opiate. It is a Rheumatoid Arthritis drug. I had a friend that had R/A and that was her doctors drug of choice for her.

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That's awful. Suboxone for pain not going to work. That nalaxone blocks the drug from entering a certain part of the brain....this is going to hurt lot of pain patients. I would go to Methadone maintenance every morning 5 clock before I would suboxone again ,sorry before I would take suboxone. Because I am a chronic pain sufferer To each it's own see how many people are going to sufferer

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