New Subutex Laws (Page 10) (Top voted first)

I went to see my doctor this week and he told me that the FDA and the DEA had passed a new law for prescribing Subutex. As of July 1st 2015 Subutex can only be given to pregnant woman or to someone with documentation saying they can't take Suboxone. If you don't have that you will be put on Suboxone.

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I don't think I'm over the limit that Dr's guide line. At 30mg. morphine er. twice daily plus diludid 4 times daily. I'm just wanting to go back to the 60mg. morphine. They can leave my diludid where its at. I don't think that's asking to much. I was taking the 60mg. for years. So not only do I have a tollarnce, I just want to get my life back. I'm kinda worried that if I keep asking for an increase, it might look like drug seeking behavior. I've been seeing the same Dr. for a long time. Never had a neg. UA. never missed a visit etc. What's a person to do?

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Several years ago, I was seeing another pm Dr. He actually had me on 100mg. morphine er. three times daily plus diludid 5 times daily. Needless to say, I was able to build up a surplus. They ended up closing him down for over prescribing. So when I started seeing this Dr. 60mg. wasn't a problem. But now 30mg. Come on!

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Tim, the drs that have been over prescribing are cutting their patients meds. It doesn't matter what you're taking them for or if you haven't failed any drug panels. The drs have to cut the meds lower so there is at least a little room to maybe increase them at a later date. The CDC has come out with a proposed Guideline for 2016 to decrease it to 90 mg. We should know later on this year if that will go into effect. The Guidelines aren't laws, but the drs are going by them.

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Is the laws just for certain states I heard Kentucky and Tennessee can prescribe subutex How do I find that out Thanks hun

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ROSEY: Go on suboxone.com/treatment-plan/find-a-doctor, put in what state you are interested in, call one of the doctors in that area and ask them.

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Hi everyone, I'm not going to compare one person's pain to another, everyone is different when it comes to how much pain is tolerant. What is a 6 for one person might be an 8 on a 1-10 scale for another person. It's basically between you and your Dr. to manage it. Pain meds are a great way to have somewhat of a quality of life. I have a friend that went to his Dr. this past week, and he got what he's been taking for quite sometime. No reduction. We see different doctors in the same area. Central Florida. We've been taking the same meds for pain, his Dr. kept him on morphine er 60mg. twice daily and Diludid 8mg for break through. My Dr. on the other hand reduced my morphine from the 60 mg.tabs to 30mg. a few months back. So knowing this, it can't be law. I see my Dr. Tuesday, and will ask for an adjustment. Keep my diludid the same, 1-8mg. four times daily. I just want the morph's back where they were. I just can't see why there should be any problem. I know the DEA & FDA monitors pain management doctors
But don't think that is out of their guide lines. I'd really hate to switch doctors, I've been an established patient for a long time. And changing could be risky. Plus they do a real good job in the front office, if my appointment is 9:30am. I'm usually out of their by 10:00, go to my pharmacy, and home before noon.

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Lets hope doc didnt run into issues with too many meds out there.. In my area they're making them thin out how many patients they can have also...good luck.

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Mayb your doc seen an issue as to not giv u boxin...it is a true statment my doc discussed it with me in jan...it will be nationwide by mid year.

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What state are u in? I go to the methadone clinic and have to go every single day and I've been dealing with this pain for a while. Got kicked out by my doctor for a dirty U/A and I was looking to get put on subutex so if you could help me out please I would appreciate it.

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No Tennessee does not we have the same new law just hasn't fully passed

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Tim, the FDA Guideline of 120 mg Morphine/Morphine Equivalent Daily is not a law. But, most drs are following it like it is.

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Can you get a letter documentation from your nurse practitioner ?? Yeah I was on the strips of suboxin and it made me so irritable my headaches my migraines got lot worse and it just made me really really sick at the stomach ??

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ROSEY: I'm not sure how it works with the new laws, but I would say get all the documentation you can. I used to be on Subutex; I couldn't take the Suboxone for the very same reasons you state. My doctor started me on Suboxone, and I had headaches and stomach problems for a week. (I already had documented migraines and nausea issues with this doctor) I called the doc and told him what was going on, and he said it was most likely from the Naloxone. So he switched me immediately to the Subs, and the problem went away. Go to your doctor/NP and get that documentation. My doc just took my word for it, but I see that they are no longer doing that. So yes, get it DOCUMENTED for sure.

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is that new law for all of united states or just the state you live in?

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Rosey, a lot of people that prefer the Subutex are saying that the Suboxone makes them sick or they are allergic to it. Because of that most drs are saying that the Suboxone has to threaten the life of the person and that a dr has to have observed this and documented it. When someone has a life threatening reaction to something, they require immediate medical attention.

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Hi everyone, I'm happy to say, my Dr. Adjusted my meds. We had a good talk a couple days ago at my monthly visit. He put me back in the 60mg. morphine up from the 30mg. I was taking the 60mg for a long time and about 5 months ago, he lowered it to the 30mg. due to pressure from the DEA and FDA. But there's no law that says he can't give me the 60mg. morphine twice daily and 4 - 8mg. Diludid daily. I can actually get up and have somewhat of a good day. Those of us that have to go to a pain management Dr. that insurance doesn't cover ($200 a month) it's a blessing to get the required dosage to keep my pain manageable. Fortunately my health insurance does cover most of the cost of scripts. And people that needlessly suffer, it's all about how to talk to your doctor. They are trained doctors and look for signs of abuse and addiction. They know that a good part of the meds they write scripts for are valuable on the street. And it's hard to say no when someone offers you $2,000. for a diludid script. But as far as the law goes, as long as the doctors have all documents of your pain issues in order, they can prescribe what ever they see fit.

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The messed up part is i just got told by my pharmacy today because I live in tn but my doctor is in nc that I can't get my meds filled there anymore without a nc drivers Liscense, that I would just not be able to get my meds, yet to pharmacies say they won't fill a prescription from another state, so what do I do?

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DAVE: Can't you just take your prescription to a pharmacy in Tennessee?

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What meds are you on? When my pharmacy is out I take mine to Walgreens. They are alway taking new people.

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Dave , if you live in Tenn and you have a Tenn drivers license or state issued picture ID you should be able to get your prescription filled in Tenn.

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