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I have some 10mg Neliz diazepam tablets. Flat white tablets with a dividing line on one side. No other markings. They come in foil strips of 14 tablets per strip. Has anyone heard of these or had any experience with them?

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Hi, I have some of these Neliz 10mg Diazepam received today (25/10/18). These seem to be a fairly new Diazepam on the blackmarket appearing this year from what I've researched. Allegedly from a Spanish pharmaceutical company.

Despite the professional packaging and blistered tablets I can confirm without any doubt that these are definitely not genuine pharmaceutical Diazepam and are being made by a dubious company pretending to be a pharmaceutical company.

I had my suspicions these were fake right away as soon as I saw them (even before trying). I would like to go into the reasons for that to help others spot fake pharma drugs in the interests of harm-reduction at worse...or just being ripped-off at best!

1) Taste test: I have been taking benzodiazepine drugs for 17 years (including Diazepam for years) so I know all benzo's purely by the taste under my tongue and the different onset and physical effects of each benzo. Upon tasting, Neliz Diazepam just doesn't taste like typical Diazepam to me. It tastes more like Alprazolam (Xanax) which has an unmistakably lasting bitter taste that stays in your mouth. Diazepam on the other hand (I've tried many brands by UK pharmacies) hardly has any noticeable taste.

2. The manufacturing date and expiry date on box: This raised immediate suspicions because it's actually mass printed on the box (same as the rest of the box printing). Everyone who I have seen query Neliz Diazepam reports the same exact same batch number, manufacturing date and expiry date (Lote DN566 Manufactured 01/2018 Expiry 01/2021). This is very unusual for any pharmaceutical company to mass-print this data on the box like that. Usually it's printed in a special area on the box by a different kind of printer (usually thermal printed or impressed printed) which is specifically for that production batch.

2. Tablets appearance: Given that Benzodiazepine drugs are highly regulated/scheduled drugs in most countries (with potentially lethal side-effects and overdose risk) I've never in my life seen any genuine pharma-grade Diazepam tablets without some identification markings on them. At the very least it should have the pharma manufacturing code/initials and the dosage. Neliz has neither.

3. Neliz International: This looks like a fake company to me. I'm a web developer by trade (20+ years experience) and it doesn't take me long to work out a fake company website or suspicious things about website. Neliz claims to be an 'international pharmaceutical' company, yet there's no company name or address anywhere on their product packaging or patient leaflet insert (very very unusual) and no company name or address anywhere on their website. Aside from no address or company registered in Spain, There's odd things about the website, i.e. no contact details like phone numbers or departments. Their server is hosted in several places, Netherlands and the domain name registration (Netlizinternational.com) and some hosting is done in Malaysia. This raises suspicions that the people behind this website are trying to conceal there true location. For an international pharmaceutical company there's very little information about them (other than their website) on Google (even on Google Spain) which is highly unusual. They also claim to only make 3 medications. Interestingly, I found a website in USA which Neliz International (the same so-called pharmaceutical company) appears to be 'for sale' in USA and is seeking offers.

OK now to the real evidence Neliz is not a legitimate pharmaceutical company, and what they're making is not real Diazepam:

There is a drug harm reduction awareness org website which regularly tests drugs sent in by people to see what they contain to help identify counterfeit pharma drugs and potentially toxic or harmful substances in them:

Someone submitted Neliz Diazepam 10mg 16 days ago, and you can see the results here:

wedinos.org/db/samples/index/page:3

Sample W008696

The tablets tested positive for: Diclazepam, Alprazolam (no Diazepam)

Diclazepam is analog drug (recreational drug/RC, not licensed for medical use in humans) which is reportedly 10 times more potent than Diazepam. Alprazolam is actually Xanax - a very potent and short-acting benzodiazepine drug (which has a high risk of tolerance, black-outs, dependency and terrible withdrawals due to its very short-half life - typically 6 hours.

This explains why I tasted the familiar Alprazolam bitter taste in just 1/4 of the 10mg Neliz tablets.

I would advise against taking these a substitute for Diazepam as it could be very hard to determine the dosage and effects compared to Diazepam.

However if you are still going to take these Netliz tablets stay safe and take the smallest dose you can (i.e. quarter tablet) and see how they affect you over 1-2 hours before you take more. Definitely don't combine with other drugs and/or alcohol.

From the taste test of 1/4 tablet, I would estimate these tablets (1 whole tablet) may contain as much as 1-2mg of Xanax. This is a high dose for someone without tolerance and could cause you to blackout or affect your ability to drive etc (especially with Diclazepam combined), so be careful guys.

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Re: Laura (# 68) Expand Referenced Message

Without wanting to sound preachy.

Whilst they do contain some benzo-active ingredients they do work in helping with anxiety, panic attacks and insomnia, the problem is they don't contain any diazepam according to lab tests.

So for occasional use they're probably ok in place of benzo's (although I'm sure most Dr's would strongly disagree) if you're desperate and can't get real Diazepam...but the truth is, you're taking a tablet which could contain anything. You don't know the dose it contains or whether its consistent from one pill to another because they're not made by a real pharma company and one of the main ingredients is not even licensed safe for use in humans.

With benzo's (even Diazepam legit ones) it's dangerous territory to get dependent on them. And even more risky to take Neliz daily as we know they contain Xanax which is a different type of benzo that's waay stronger than Diazepam and a lot more addictive (often in as little as weeks of daily use for some people).

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Re: Aiddy (# 8) Expand Referenced Message

Hi I taken diazepam 25 years I suck them activis tiva ma holder are ok neilz are poudery and really sour that last in mouth as for working I dunno cause I am a addict

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Worried now, I have neliz from uksp, not taken any yet - sent one to wedinos to check, no result for me yet but if u type in diclazepam into wedinos, lots of neliz come up looking just like my pack. I'm never using uksp again if they ripped me off & will post their scam all over the web to warn others. Mine r same exp date and batch no mentioned above too.

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Results are in from Wedinos:

Sample W009106
Date Received: 03/12/2018
Purchase Intent: Diazepam 10mg
Package Label: Neliz Diazepam 10mg
Sample Colour: White
Sample Form: Tablet
Sample Upon Analysis (Major): Diclazepam
Sample Upon Analysis (Minor):

Complained to UKSP, see what happens. Do not take NELIZ if you are expecting diazepam.

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Yes I had them and didn't think much of them tbh mate

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Re: Gavaldo (# 108) Expand Referenced Message

As far as I am concerned there are only 2 reliable brands, bensedin and apaurin. The rest, I would not touch with a barge pole. Better to flush your money down the lavatory. At least you would be safe although poor.

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Re: Barry (# 109) Expand Referenced Message

I've got some Apaurin, I've never had this brand before. I sent one to Wedinos but they haven't processed anything since 7th Dec. I am a bit concerned as they are blue and from SPUK which is based in Scotland where people have been dying after taking fake blue tablets. Apaurin are described as being blue though so they could be fine. Has anyone ever had a bad Apaurin or are they generally a good brand?

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Re: C (# 112) Expand Referenced Message

So, they are admitting Neliz are fake if they are offering you an alternate brand. My own trustpilot review will be staying up as I want people to know they are gambling with their health and lives if they take Neliz.

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Re: Justjan (# 5) Expand Referenced Message

They're fakes. I just got my analysis report back. It had miniscule amounts of diclazepam found in them or 0.2mg alprazolam. Still unclear.

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Re: kenny (# 123) Expand Referenced Message

Same here. I won't be using them again :( had some decent products from them in past. Bensedin was good & tested genuine. If enough people test & stop using them maybe they'll rethink what they source. I have apaurin now from slpuk which tested genuine.

Wedinos is a great site for testing the validity of your meds.

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Re: Barry (# 16) Expand Referenced Message

But it doesn't. It's a musty sweet taste.

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Re: CleanAsWhistle (# 142) Expand Referenced Message

Send one off anonymously to http:/­/­wedinos.org/­db/­sample_testing. This will tell you if it is diazepam or not & if there is anything else mixed in.

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None of them that have been tested contain diazepam, put Neliz into the wedinos website who analyse submitted meds, for example W009683 referred to a Neliz diazepam tablet which shows it to contain Diclazepam others have mixtures of Diclazepam, Alprazolam, Etizolam who knows in what quantity? I found them to do nothing for me and wasted over £400 on them!

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Re: Attila thehun (# 149) Expand Referenced Message

Yes, definitely fake. I and many others have sent samples off to wedinos. Most of them contained no diazepam at all. One sample contained SOME diazepam plus another substance. Most of them were some combination of etizolam/diclazepam.

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Re: Ollie (# 148) Expand Referenced Message

We just have to keep getting the message out there that NELIZ are FAKE, and complain to our pharmacies. As more and more people become aware and stop buying from them, they will be forced to source from better quality manufacturers.

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Re: Barry (# 156) Expand Referenced Message

Yes it may have other benzodiazepine derivatives in it but people are buying the Neliz believing that they are diazepam, not unknown quantities of other substances which vary from different batches of Neliz, that is what the PROBLEM IS! That sort of pharmacy should be stamped out, not justified by saying that there may be some other kind of benzos in the tablets!!!

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Anyone had any experience with Martin Dow brand Diazepam? Apparently, it's a Roche licensed company in Pakistan. Thanks.

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Re: Paulie (# 165) Expand Referenced Message

Exactly mate. Why is it they're selling kylasol for £170 for 90 1mg but 100 of pretend Pfizer? It’s just alko-1 and they're as weak as crap.

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Hello Barry,

I was able to find some pills that matched your description. It seems that Terapia Ranbaxy is the manufacturer who makes these pills. Here is some useful information I was able to find on Diazepam according to the National Institute of Health.

Primary Use:

This medications primary use is to treat anxiety disorders, alcohol withdrawls, tremors and to control seizures.

Warnings:

Notify your doctor immediately if you develop a rapid heart rate, chest pain, yellowing of eyes or skin, mood changes, incoordination, strange thoughts, mental confusion or depression while taking this medication.

Possible Side Effects:

Drowsiness, dizziness, lightheadedness, headaches.

Hopefully some of this information is useful to you. Only you and your doctor will be able to determine if this medication is right for you after you begin administration. Have a wonderful day.

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