Klonopin And Suboxone (Page 3)

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I was recently prescribed suboxone and klonopin. So I was wondering if anyone out there has taken this combo and what thier feelings are on the subject?

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I had a friend die 5 days ago on Nov. 15th 2011 from taking klonopin andd suboxone at the same time. IT IS LETHAL. His autopsy revealed that he had mixed the two and that was the cause of death because his respiratory system failed. He went to sleep and never woke up. I do NOT advise anyone to take these two meds at the same time. Whoever does do it, is just a jackass.

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only if you overmedicate. I take pain meds and xanax with no problems. Just take less benzo at first to see how you are doing, then up the dose if needed with doctor permission. That can cause death, but if not if taken exactally as prescribed you should have no problems.

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Very sad to learn this. Please accept my condolences.I presume the Doctor has advised not to take combination.There are many medicines which have lethal interactions and are best avoided. Some medicines also have interaction with food , milk and other seemingly simple substances.Suggest write it in front of you on a white Board.----.

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Yes. This is very true. What people (even doctors) fail to realize is that a lot of people become addicted to opiate based drugs because they are suffering from anxiety/depression. It is a way of self medicating. I was off of drugs for quite some time but was still suffering from anxiety and depression. I asked my doctor about a benzo as I had tried several anti-depressants and they did nothing for my anxiety! Because he knew of my past addictions he refused to give me a benzo assuming I would abuse it. Because of this I eventually ended up self-medicating again. It is sad because if I had been treated for the anxiety correctyly in the first place, this would have never happened. I am now on suboxone for myopiate addiction,but I was still suffering fromanxiety. I did find a doctorwho was willing to treat me for both and now I am onmy way to getting off ofsuboxone andmy anxiety is finally under control. If medication is taking as prescribed it poses NO danger. I started off with a .25 miligram of xanax and eventually worked up to the 1 mg. But as I increasedthexanax I decreased the suboxone. ahving the xanax made it easier to decrease the suboxone. I am now on 4 miligrams of suboxone a day and 3 miligrams of xanax. The combination is perfect. I NEVER get high from it, it only sustains me and eases my anxiety. I am now enrolled in college full time for Psychology andhave a 4.0. It is sad when people judge you and do not treat you properly because of past history. It only ends up worsening your conditionon both ends.

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Both Suboxone and any benzo slow your breathing which is probably why your friend, which first let me say I am very sorry for your loss, had died of respiratory failure. Though this can happen it only happens when youu take more than your prescribed. If your friend had no previous addiction to opiates and took suboxone along with the klonopin that is VERY dangerous. When someone has a tolerance to opiates it does not affect them the same way. It really depends on what your body is used to and how much of each medication you are taking. I am on xanax and suboxone and I have never even felt high from the combination. If you are taking it to get high and take too much of either one of the drugs it can cause death. Any medication can cause death when taking improperly whether alone or mixed. It is very sad what happened to your friend, but it is not a typical side effect when taking properly.

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I agree. If he was on a low dose of both he must have had respiratory problems in the first place, one he may have not evenknown about. Sometimes we dont want to think that someone we love would take toomuch of something, but it is highly unlikely that a healthy young man with no breathing problems took low recomended doses of both medicatins and died from it. I take both and I never even got high from the combo. I am a tiny skinny little girl too. (not little as in young, just size) I am 29 years old.

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The suboxone will cancel out the opiate's effect. Vise versa, (taking opiates then suboxone, while opiates are still in effect) will make you EXTREMELY sick. Violent withdrawl symptoms!!!

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I am an ER Doctor at a hospital in the Miami/Dade County area. The two medications can be taken at the same time. They affect different parts of your brain. I suggest you ask YOUR prescribing Doctor about your concerns. That is what he/she is there for. Some of the comments here are totally off target and just plain ignorant. Good luck with getting clean, sounds like you are on a good path.

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I'm sorry about sounding ignorant and calling people a jackass if they take these both. What I actually meant to say is not to take them improperly at the same time. (meaning to catch a high) I understand that you can take the combo as long as followed correctly. I think my friend wasn't aware and its very sad. I failed to mention this in the beginning..my bad and I apologize to whom I offended..

Im just still really upset and it hurts.

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Dear--Happy that you are doing better. My sincere request to you is to Learn Meditation . YOGA . Prayers will help to boost self confidence and eventually your reliance on medicines will reduce. Best Wishes and GOD Bless you.

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Oooh noo I'm not taking any of these medications.
Only medication I'm on is birth control..
I'm on this message board because I was looking somethings up because my friends death had me thinking about all kinds of things and this site popped up.

I just knew that it was needed that I apologized for my misleading post.

I also say prayers every night before I go to sleep if I do not fall asleep before I say them.
As for yoga, I would like to do something like that.. but yoga its self does not do good on my hip and knee..lol.

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my friend died from the same thing and only 3 days apart from your son...........everyone's different some people can mix some cant.....the real question is, is it worth the risk?

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i agree..my brother of only 22 years whom was also perfectly healthy just passed away consequently from this drug interaction. i wish there was a way i could let people know how dangerous this is.

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Ive been on Klonopin and Suboxone for a while now. about 2 years. suboxone saved my life, and klonopin helped. if i werent on these drugs id probobly be dead by now. At first most doctors will tell you its not good to mix benzo's with your suboxone but i needed to. i had no choice, once your body becomes use to it, its safe. at first mixing them, keep at a pretty low dose of klonopin you dont know how it will affect you.

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You are a medical Dr. with a Ph.D (Not PHD)? Funny because the last I checked a medical doctor is required to have a M.D or a D.O. Which Im sure you know nothing about. A Ph.D in pharmacology would not make you a medical doctor, just a guy with a Doctorate. PharmD. is a Pharmacist degree, which is technically a medical doctor, as he has a Doctorate and works with medicine. You have a PHD.

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Yes, you can take suboxone and opiates, but there are VERY specific parameters of which you need to follow, or else you can get violently sick and sent into instant withdraw.I'm an opiate addict, and answering this question is very easy for me, because ive done this hundreds of times, andas it has been explained to me by my doctor numerous different times. The thing with suboxone is that it has an opiate blocker chemical(naloxone) in addition to the buprenorphine. The ratio of Bupren to naloxone is very high; meaning, there isn't much naloxone in each strip/pill. If you are at all inclined to take both opiates( heroin, oxys w.e.) and suboxone in the same day, I HIGHLY reccommend that you take suboxone first. Depending on how much suboxone you take, then that depends how long you gotta/should wait. If you take 4mgs or less, you can take opiates after 3-5 hours, if you take more than 4mgs, i would reccommend waiting 6-8 hours. Worst case scenario, the opiates arent as effective, but they will still work. After taking opiates, regardless of what kind or what quantity, you have to wait a minimum of 8 hours before taking suboxone again. If you take an oxycodone, then 2 hours later decide to take suboxone, you are going to get violently ill, and will be sent into instant withdraw, so trust me, its not worth it, wait it out, or like i said, take suboxone first that day/night.

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where are you located?

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24 mg a day is a riduculous high dose, you don't need that much, and when you will want to tapper down subuxone, the klonopin won't help you because of your tolerance, my guess your doc was corrupted by pharmaceuticals lab to prescribe as much as he can, in return he will have gift, trips to hawai, etc.

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Sorry for your son, he probably was prescribed way too much of xanax and subuxone at the same time, if you take one pill of each, each day, there will be no problems, it is the doses prescribed by some irresponsable doctors that is the consequence of this death. His body wasnt tolerant to one of the meds or both, and the worst happened, anyhway, alway try to use the least of those all the time.

Read someone had 3 X2 klonopin plus 24 sub, this is ridiculous, even for a heavy heroin addict 16 mg would do it in the begginning and and maks 2 klonopin per day.

Good luck.

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hHAHHA dumbest thing ive ever heard..... suboxone IS an opiate so for anyone who says they take suboxone... you might as well be doing anything else because its just as bad as pain meds

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