Is 3 Days Of Suboxone Enough For A Mild Percocet 30 Mg Eight Month Addiction (Page 2)
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I have been takin only up to 30 mg of percocet a day for the past eight months, I know that don't sound like a lot but I tried to quit and couldn't handle the withdrawals so I bought five suboxone 2mg and I'm wondering how I should go about treating myself, I want to be done with this, my life has turned upside down. Please help

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percs are evil and I can't wait to feel normal again!!!

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Switching to sub (the smallest amount that you can by on), AFTER you are in withdrawal, can be easier, because of Subs longer half life. Taper over a couple weeks from there. But I agree with you, I see so many people that have a small percodan addiction (30mg/day), and get put on BIG doses of Sub., with a goal of NOT immediately tapering. A few weeks of that, and they REALLY have a problem.

But no, the Naloxone really has nothing to do with the precipitatated withdrawals. Buprinorphine, is a mixed agonist/antagonist type analgesics, and that combined with its STRONG binding affinity at opiate receptors, will immediately replace all of your pure agonist Opiate, and won't immediately be strong enough to act as a substitute, and the result (I've heard, is a horrific "precipitated withdrawal"). And you're screwed. If you take more of the original opiate, it won't be strong enough to kick the Buprinorphine off.

The Nalaxone is really only effectively bioavailable via IV. Even Sublingually it's bad. It's there to supposedly prevent intravenous abuse. I think it might be mostly advertising. Naloxone has a really short half life, Bupe has a really long half life. So if used intravenously, the Bupes going to end up on your receptors relatively quickly anyway. Naloxone has a great binding affinity for opiate receptors, it's saved many lives from OD. So much so that a Suboxone overdose is very difficult to treat. Naloxone will almost magically bring a H OD victim back from near death within minutes. Not so with Suboxone, because Bupe binds very strongly too. If used intravenously, they'll compete. Anyway, I've heard that for non current opiate addicts, Sub is very IV'able. The Naloxone that makes it to your receptors will only block the Bupe for a very short time. But Sublingually, for normal use, it's supposedly a non issue. If it weren't, it would keep you in withdrawal, instead of letting the Buprinorphine do it's thing.

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I just went through this EXACT same thing. To a "T". I went and got 1 (one) 8mg subutex and took the smallest speck you can imagine and waited an hour before taking just a tiny bit more. About every 15-16 hours basically only as necessary! And only enough to make the worst if the withdrawals go away! Yeah I had a bit of the runs and my head felt weird, nothing tasted the same and I felt like I got hit by a truck but it's now day 15 and I don't need subutex or the percs! HOORAY! YOU CAN DO IT! I still have 1/2 of the 8mg subutex left. I flushed it down the toilet and I'll never take another pain pill again. NEVER!! SO HAPPY I'M FREE!

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Thank you

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Cut the pill in 4 equal pieces, take 1 per day in the morning. You really do not have enough Subs to really be effective but even the 1/4 of the pill per day will make a big difference. Your 3rd and 4th day will be your best because of the 1/2 life of Subs so the most amount will be in your system. Day 5 may be a little rough but day 6-7 will be harder. Remember one thing, you must no matter what deal with the mental aspects of stopping, that is the most difficult

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HELP! I have been taking 7.5 mg of perc every 6 hours for the last 8 months.I've tired to quit but the physical and mental is horrible so I got one 8mg subutex and have just been touching touching it with my tongue for the past 5 days. I feel listless and have horrible anxiety within 12 hours of using the subutex. Feel like I need to go to the hospital it's so so bad.should I just not use the subutex asap? I'm so scared of the withdrawals because I have 2 children that need me! Please help I need the advice as I DO NOT want to become dependant onthe subs. I never had a script for ahh of it..PLEASE HELP!

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Hi Huntingmomma, It,s not good. It,s addiction behavior. I,ve done it myself.
If your husband ever decides to get clean and he can,t seem to stay straight or the withdrawalls are to bad he can allways contact a sub dr. and get on subs the right way then taper off them the right way. I,m on subs now but before I went to sub dr. I was acting the same way as your husband. It,s not good for the body to be mixing pain meds and subs. Subs alone are probably not very good for the body but I find it better than the crazy rollercoaster ride of mixing pain meds and subs.

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Hi Heather, u need 2 wait until u r withdrawing b 4 u start the suboxone. Then take the least amount possible. Just enough 2 take the withdrawals away . I would start with a quarter of the 8mg. If that's not enough, I would try another quarter piece. I would try 2 take the least amount and stretch them out.

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My husband takes perc 30s and subs for a couple days then is on percs again then switches back to subs. Is this bad?

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don't be an i****, why take Subs if you want to still use Opiates?

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Can someone help me? I am terrified. I have been on oxycontin20mg.4 times a day and 05mg 4 times for breakthrough pain the past 9 years.Yesterday was my day for refills and found my caregiver was very ill and may not be coming back.The 'floater' doctor was horrible! Although I had years of MRI'S and Cat scans and neurologist reports stating nothing could be done for my neck pain(due to slipped disk that developed spurs pressing on nerves as well as spinal stenosis and an improperly healed disc in midback) he spent the entire visit telling me my doctor was nothing but a pill pusher and me, a drug seeking addict and he will not write one more prescription for me.No one will help me.And told me I am on my own. I am a 66 year women with high blood pressure who has been to the ER twice for stroke like symptoms and out of control blood pressure. I also have a heart irreguality.I have read of how bad WD are and don't know where to turn or what to do.

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I've been taking 4 to 6 5/325 oxycodone a day for over five years. I am tired of wasting my life and money to this addiction. Today I ran out and is so afraid of detoxing. Someone gave me one 8mg/2mg patch with the instruction to cut it into 3 pieces and dissolve a section under my tongue each day for three days and I Will not have w/ds. I did not know that I should have been starting to have w/d before I took the first tab. Now I am afraid that something bad is going to happen like I will start to have those symptoms and I don't know what to do. Are there any thoughts that might help me?

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Heather, all people are different, but you have kind of a "hamster" like habit for Suboxone. I'd probably just try tapering the Percocet, if you have enough pills. Say cut by 5mg/week. In 6 weeks, you're done, and I don't think it will be bad at all. But people below have used Suboxone for a quick detox. Sub is addicting as hell, but not in 3 days, and it stays in your body for a long time, which probably just slows the Percocet withdrawal.

Important. You have to be in moderate withdrawal, or worse, before taking Suboxone. This is NOT because of Naloxone. That will only come into play when IV'ing Suboxone, and that's why it's there. Buprenorphine (Suboxone's main component is what's called an opiate agonist/antagonist). Oxycodone is a pure agonist, while Naloxone is a pure antagonist. Naloxone is a miraculous drug for ODs, it practically brings people back from death (really the brink of), but unless IV'ed, it won't do anything. Buprenorphine alone, will throw you into withdrawal, if you still have Oxycodone in your body (and clinging to your opiate receptors). Barely anything clings to Opiate receptors better than Buprenorphine, so suddenly replacing the Oxycodone with Buprenorphine (Suboxone basically), will make you sick immediately. Wait 24 hours or so. Until your feel terrible. Then maybe try taking 3mg the first day (You'll feel beeter immediately, IF you waited long enough -- be in withdrawal -- be sure you are sick), then 2mg for a couple of days, then then 1mg, 1mg, 0.5mg, 0.5mg, which is your 10mg, then done and see how it goes?

People don't understand this: Suboxone rips other opiates off your opiate receptors. If you are addicted to a strong opiate like Oxycodone, you will go into a "precipitated withdrawal" and be in full withdrawal mode instantly, and be really sick for 12 hours or so. BEFORE TAKING SUBOXONE THE OTHER OPIATE MUST BE GONE. SO WAIT UNTIL YOU IN AT LEAST MODERATE WITHDRAWALS. BUT ONCE YOU ARE ON SUBOXONE TAKING ANOTHER OPIATE IS MO PROBLEM. IT WON'T ROP SUBOXONE OFF YOUR OPIATE RECEPTORS. SO YOU JUST WON'T FEEL ANYTHING (Or very little).

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What would you consider a long time ? I'm taking 60 to 70mg per day and stopped 2 days ago. I took a small piece of a sub and I feel fine. I plan to stop the Sub tomorrow.

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Honestly if your not on over 100mg a day for a long time you aren't dependent on it, it's really a mind thing trust me, I was on 4-10s per day and I forgot my pills went I went on a trip at work but I fight fire and I didn't think about it much cause we were really busi and I didn't take them for 20 days and I didn't feel a thing excepts back pain I take them for and a little mental unrest from not having them but other then that if your on really low doses your body should metabolize it out just as if you were drinking a couple beers a day. And just like if you were drinking a case of beer every day you would be an alcy and you would detox of if just to get your body right again. And taking prescription drugs if you can limit the use, drink lots of water while taking them and that'll help you metabolism and body to keep it on an even keel.

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Well i ended up getting back problems like 8months ago n started to take 30s for the pain but i dont like to take them constantly because they r to expensive n i i hate the addiction. My back also goes thru periods where it doesnt hurt n i dont need the percocets, but soon found out that the withdrawl is really s***ty. So i talked to a few friends n heard about taking subs for 3 days as a detox. My habit was worse than it shld of been n i was taking anywhere from one and a half to 3 percocet 30s per day for a couple months each time. When my pain stops n i dont wanna do them anymore i grab two 8mg subs. I take 3/4 the first day, a 1/2 of one on the second day, and 1/4 of one on the 3rd day. I have noticed it gets a bit harder each time i do it, but i just upped the dose a little bit to: a whole 8 mg pill the first day, then 3/4 the second day, and a half the third day. I dont like to take them for more than three days because it can give me sub addiction if i take them too long. But sometimes if i still feel a bit crappy i take a 1/4 of a pill on the fourth day. I get no withdrawls when i do it this way n i can sleep. I might get a bit of anxiety here and there but thats about it. I am not a doctor but this is what works for me. All i can say is wait for withdrawls to come before taking them n dont take any opiates for a wk n that shld make it easier. I dont know if this will help anyone but i figured id lend some of my experience

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Im down to 3_10mg percs a day been on pills 4 years i tried jumping from here but can't handle the withdraw i got subutex i was wondering if i take that a couple days if all be able to get off i tried tappering off percs but can't get any lower

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Hey, how have things worked out since your last post. It sounds like I've been having similar experiences. Not excessive use, but extremely hard to stop.

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I took a half of a suboxone 9 hours ago will it be safe to take a opiate today?

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I stopped using percocet 4 per day for a year and a half. I quit cold turkey for 14-15 days I don't even know. It was the worst he'll of my life. I could not get any better it never ended I put up the fight. I went back to the doctor who told me I should have tapered off. I went back to 1.5 a day for 3 days and quit again. Another 8 days of he'll. Now I am using 2 per day split into halves. I can finally work get involved with my family etc. I have had plenty of the pills each time, but wouldn't take them. Now I am thinking I'm going to go through this he'll for a third time in a few weeks.I am sticking with the plan and in 3 more weeks should be done. Am I going to go through this again. Also the mental guilt is killing me. Any advice

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