How To Get Off Suboxone (Page 31)
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Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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Hello, I'm 27yrs old, and I have a beautiful lil girl, I've had a addiction problem for 4 yrs now, I was put on suboxone 6 months ago ,I take 1 and a half a day, and I now really want off it, I feel the longer I take it, the harder its goin to be on me to get off it in the future. I would just like to ask if anyone suffered from panic attacks when they try to either lower doses, or skip doses?

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Will, thank you for sharing, I did not see L-tyrosine at GNC. I did buy the Amino Acid powder and the Super Food Supreme. I will look for it. Congratulations on getting off Suboxone!!! I am just soooo close. All of you who have responded to me, Thank You!!! I am Always open to suggestions! When I tell my Doctor I am taking 1 mg or .5 mg of Suboxone, they tell me there is no way I should be having withdrawals trying to get off. Have any of you had decent withdrawals at that levels? Or been told there should be no issues getting off Suboxone? I have found that these Doctors really don't have a clue!! I Really am trying to get off, but I am now scared of the Benzos after reading the post from . The reaction I had to Serequel Really FRYED my nerves in my legs and feet. In the afternoon and night they go crazy. I feel tingleing, zapping, itching from the inside, and general Charlie horses and cramps in them. I was Soooo close to getting off the Subutex, but now the uncomfortableness and pain is driving me crazy. If I do not take my Benzo - Lorazapam - until they get real bad, it doesn't help for hours and then even taking two pills is all that I can stand. Is there anyone out there that can tell me how long it takes to FIX the "Burnt" nerves from my reaction??? It was called Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome. I then had Tardive Dyskinesia, involuntary movements of my face and body parts. The TD is gone. ANYONE who could help answer questions about NMS Please advise!!!! The only good thing through this was despite being in excruciating pain during the ordeal, I did not take any Narcotics or Increase my Subutex. I am STILL fighting the battle, but the set back is really discouraging me mentally and physically... Thank You, Z-MAN...

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Will, I think that's wonderful that you are off that awful
medication. I myself am tapering now and hope to be in your shoes soon. Great job, you should be very proud of yourself.

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Becky...I was on Suboxone for over 6 years and can proudly finally say that I am done with this drug. My last dose was taken on January 16th, 2013. The way that I got off may not work for everyone...But this is what I did. First, I tapered down to almost nothing. I went through minimal withdrawals while taping; which only lasted a couple days. Nothing serious just some restless legs at night. My dr had me down to 1 mg/day but I actually went down to .5 mg per day for 1 week until I quit. I set a date in which to take my last dose (mind you that I did have more to take if I needed). On January 16th I took my last dose of .5 mg and have not looked back. I took L-Tyrosine for about 2 weeks along with some diarrhea medicine. You can find L-Tyrosine at GNC...I honestly think this is what allowed me to break this habit along with exercise. I had minor withdrawals which were not really noticeable. Today, I am sleeping like I used to before doing any drugs and feel the best that I have in my 41 years of life. Another big help for me to get off of Suboxone was my wife. She was there for me to just talk or offer her encourgement. BTW, the Suboxone that I had left when I quit was flushed down the toilet on day 30, very liberating knowing I didn't need that drug anymore!! Hope this helps. Will

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Risub, well after yesterday taking as little benzo as possible I was sore but ok until bedtime. My legs and feet again felt like they were on fire inside. Vi ate supper, fell asleep for 45 minutes, then my wife noticed I was tossimg and turning in my chair until I woke up to EXCRUCIATING nerve pain from my back to my feet. All I had to say was wtf. It was the same original nerve pain that I felt on the initial onset of my allergic reaction. My Central Nervous System namely nerves must be FUBAR!! I took two Lorazapams and even that took hours to make tolerable, My wife had to use a Thumper Machine to do a deep tissue massage. Suffering around here, being Saturday no docs to call, I assume I need a neurologist....damn!

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R, thanks for telling me that. I feel 70% better already. The benzos don't get me high but help my messed up brain sleep and settle down after this last painful experience. The worst problem I have is the nerve pain in my legs and feet. The NMS just burned them up. I feel better today and am back to work ( self-employed). I was just mentally and physically drained last night. Today so far I have not taken my benzo. I woke up in the middle of the night even after 2 lorazapams in horrible nerve pain. I then realized I was overdue on my clonadine patch. With in 30 minutes felt better and fell Sleep. So I will try to carefully take my benzos and hope for the best. FYI, Monday I literally gave up. Ci told my family and friends that I diidn't care anymore as the body face and heart twitching and spasms were getting worse. I've Never been to that point and hope to NEVER get there again! Thank God I am slowly getting better... The benzo was the trick, but what's next? ....

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Z-man, you could go to a urgent care or emergency room, say your doctor rescheduled your appointment for next week and you need 5-10 of them to get you through the week. I used to do it all the time when I was using. Or ask your doc for a few. I'm sure you know to be careful with them, every time I had relapsed while on suboxone it was on benzo. FYI benzo withdrawal is HORRIBLE and just like alcohol you CAN die from, 2 years ago I was in a detox for 2 weeks to come off. I had always thought the withdrawal was the opioid's but it was the benzos withdrawal that lasted foreva. for me benzos are a slippery slope and you are doing great lowering your dose, I would hate for you to do what I did, I know you are sincere in your post when you say you just want them to help you sleep, but I can say from experience that its a whole other ballpark when you have that bottle in your hands. Please try clonodine (nonaddictive ). that kinda helped. and PASSION FLOWER works very well it helps calm your nervious system the only tea I could find was at wholefoods, its called "Traditional Medicinals" Easy Now is my fav and it works!!! and that coming from a benzo addict I never thought anything would work that well oh and take the tea with benadril. I think you can buy the passion flower powder on-line you can put in food pudding, oatmeal, milk etc. Every time I would tell myself in all honestly & sincerity that I would use them only when I need it, but inevitably my addiction would win, I'm talking handcuffed to the hospital bed in the ER because I couldn't stop making myself throw-up to feel better I was drinking water just to throw it up, crazy ish! any way I digress, so what ever you do I hope some of this info helps, ps get the tea it absolutely takes the edge off

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R, I hope so... For the last few months, I haven't had any kind of endorfin high. No energy after eat, no tired feeling Etc. after going through a hell full reaction, family doc. Gave me one doze of lorazapam. I slept for a bit and the next day even felt a little sleepy after eating, unfortunately being a benzo, the doc did not want to prescribe it, and they had no clue of NMS. The benzo Really helped and looks like I have to now go to a psychologist / psychiatrist to get it... What hoops we have to jump through! I've always read that benzos help, but no one wants to prescribe it as they are addicting, but when Really needed, wtf!!! Please share any results of the study down the road... The only good news I have to report is that I am down to less than .33 mg of Subutex...

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Zman, I'm for real, the study is being done by brown university, I'm not surprised that many haven't heard about it, my doctor that prescribes my anti-depressant hadn't heard of the study and they are also in providence ri and hes at butler hospital(which is one of the best mental health hospitals in the usa, and they have worked with brown before), but I guess he and his superior looked into it and found it wasn't bs. like i said it's the first case study of its kind under fda regulations. I'm sooooo excited, my dr (who is also a teacher at brown) is extremely optimistic that this new drug works, I've seen alot of dr in my day and I trust his opinion.

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Update, after not sleeping for three days, was given serequel to sleep, had a severe life threatening reaction from it called neuroleptic malignant Sundrome NMS...if you dare take this medication and start having mental mood changes, uncontrolled body temperature, heart rate fast slow or irregular, get to ER! I did not as did not think one single pill could do that and thought it would pass. I had more symptoms and because my family doctor knows I see a specialist for 5 days has refused treatment and NOW realizes they messed up and now I might have facial and body twitches for life! WTF. The pain of every nerve in my body from "spasticing" feels like I have been run over by a train... On the other hand they say they are Sorry I had a bad reaction and on dAy 6 today promise to get things right!!!! Also has taken Severe mental toll on me, Almost over the edge.

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Risub Really???? People have been saying that for years... My addictionologist who is head of a big hospital said there is no such thing. If you have Any info please share what this site will allow... If you read old posts, people have been saying that. It was always a joke. I truly hope you are right!!

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oh forgot to say what its about to those that don't know. A case study is being done to get patients off suboxone! New med you take for roughly 4-8 weeks. No withdrawals, its been proven to work, but this is the first, do not quote me here, FDA case study. Cannot wait to start!! Keep ya posted!!

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Toughy, also to add, I have a 68 year old mother with rods in her arms and legs from the 2 life-threatening accidents she has been in during her life. She flatly REFUSES to take pain meds after seeing the damage done to me... It tears me up as she can't walk, cries herself to sleep at times... I don't know the answer and I pass NO judgement. Thanks for the info. Even myself, pain is still an issue but I may seek more other alternatives such as acupuncture etc. keep in touch, Z-MAN...

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Toughy, I first was put on Methadone about 14 years ago. It worked wonders for my pain. But year after year my dose had to be upped as I became "tolerant" to it. Once I made it to 120 mg a day, going up didn't help, so my doctor added other Narcotics to it, Oxy's, Fentanyl, and lastly Opana Er... Even taking 3 different ones at once, I still was functioning but relying on them just to be able to work and keep going. Then, about 3 years ago I screwed up and took some Tramadol one night as I cracked a tooth, was pissed tested at a normal appointment and literally thrown out of the same Doctor's office that I had seen straight for over 11 years. I was forced to see a psychologist to see if I had a "problem". I was cleared by the psychologist. Well the Doctor turned his nose up and left me without any scripts and sent me packing. I searched and searched and upon seeing every pain Doctor within 100 miles of me, most told me that my previous Doctor, "belonged in Prison, Prison, Prison and will most likely be there soon!" I found one Doctor to carry me for a little bit. They all then weened me off one drug at a time. I did so with pain and withdrawal but could not kick the Methadone. I was able to ween down to about 10-20 Mg's, but it was Hard! I could not go below that. I had Wd's for months upon months. I then found a good addictionologist. He suggested / almost forced me to seek in patient detox etc., the problem was that out of 10 different detox centers, only one would see me as they had horrible experiences with methadone. The one that would take me made my new Doc jump through hoops to take me then refused at the end. The only option I had left was to see the big experienced Methadone Detox in Florida. They did not care how much Methadone I person was on, and could do wonders. At $1000 a day, they expected me to stay 20 days, well you figure, I didn't have $20k, so that closed that door. I know what you are saying when you say why stop, it works for me, but even I knew at that time that it would be nice to just not have to rely on a pill to be normal, to wake and sleep normal, to be like normal people... The methadone kept me working and I hear you. And i know there are other reasons to take it, I just kept lying to myself, because I had legitimate pain, and it worked, why fix it. What I've seen this year is that the government would of fixed it anyways, I'm reading the horror stories of patients who can't get their meds because the DEA will not allow Docs to prescribe Narcotics! I'm not going to preach no more.
Now for the Subutex. This last week, I kept getting weaker and weaker with less and less sleep. I then filled my normal Ambien script. I slept great 1st night, half second, then zero, and the sneezing, sweats, all the above from Ambien now!!! Wtf. So, without upping my Subutex, doesn't help anyways, I am desperate. Now if I don't take some A, Wd's are bad... I can't believe it and even taking the A, I still can't sleep now Barely if at all! I am almost at my wits end. And yes, I've taken Ambien for years, get 30, lasts 7-10 days... Still fighting the battle, Z... Good luck. Tired of typing for now, gotta fix leaking sink...

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Z-MAN the only reason I chose to stay on methadone, in a time when it was called dolophine, was because it was the only part of all treatment modalities I could not conquer. The bio-chemical part, the loss of the production of endorphins - your brain never delivers these in the previous amount EVER again. Naturally, in the early 1970s no one told me how addictive it was. Yet I can tell you, for some of us, addiction to methadone for life, when it works for you, is not a horror. Still, MMT is NOT for everyone, and hardly for some. Nothing works if you don't "work" it, and though I'm a methadone addict now, the stigma is slowly falling away as more and more professionals like myself have come forward. They risk being ostracized and even fired but forward-thinkers see the benefit for SOME, not all. If a person is doing well on methadone, and wishes to someday be free of it, a slow, monitored withdrawal of dose with constant counseling is the best bet - slow and steady wins. I know, I've seen it. I'm cognizant what drug I require, know how to take it, contribute to my job and community with no excuses, and my life is full. If asked, I affirm that indeed, I'm addicted to my medication, given to me legally and with counseling, blood-workups, private therapy, and I stay current with all things connected to opiate dependence. All I'm asking is that you examine the idea that methadone for life - for SOME - (I'm 63) is not a horror but, for a very few, can be the ultimate answer.

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To Z-man, many congratulations!!

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Not sure what that comment was about either lol. Congrats to you!!!

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hi everyone I posted before about the study I'm going to be in @ brown. here's the update case study is to start may the earliest, july the latest. I need to be down to 8mg for at least 2 months. I'm perscribed 1 and a half of 8mg a day, but most days I only take 1 anyways. thats the only new info I have. keep ya posted.

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Hey Everyone,SWIM has been on sub treatment 7 months now. SWIMs life has improved greatly! SWIM still hasnt been able to kick pot and has failed 4 ua's. Every time Dr. really doens't freak out. SWIM does ok for a week then the low self esteem hits from horrible sexual trauma at a young age. SWIM has never told anyone.. hinted to the Dr. Cant seem to get a grip. SWIM wants to know do most Dr. give a taper script when they boot a client... If not.. what do you do? Please no judgments about my will and strength or addiction. Until you have been ---- with a stick in front of a crowd of your peers at 11 years old dont even try to judge SWIM life. SWIM just wants to be well prepared.. Please share your insight..

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Not sure who or what the last post was about! Duh and the point was?? Gotta love *diots! Anyway, I am finally down to 1/4 of a 2mg Subutex daily and have broken the 1/4 in half too. Almost free of this devil drug!

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