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Im Marina Im 24 years old and a mother of 2 beautiul little boys. From the years 2006-2007 i was heavily addicted to Oxy 80 and eventually started doing herion. I got help in sep.2007 at a methadone clinic, it worked for as long as i was on the methadone i had NO relapse's. In June 2009 i was completly off of the methadone that first day that i was on 0Mgs I went through extreme withdrawls i went through things that i would never wish upon my worst enemy! i stayed that way for a day and a half and decided to go to a suboxone doctor. He put me on 32 mgs a day which i thought was pretty high of a dose but he explained to me that methadone withdrawls was worst then any other withdrawls. so i trusted him. Now when i go to see him every month i pretty much beg for him to start the weining process and start lowering me and he pretty much refuses. After months of being on 32mgs a day he finally started tapering me down slowly, i never really thought any thing of it till now but i realized he's keeping me on the suboxne for as long as posible so that he can get my $200.00 a month. all he is, is a legal drug dealer bc now im highly addicted to the suboxone. I recently had to go a few days with out my suboxone bc i didnt have the money to see him and i went through hell. i thought methadone withdrawl was bad OMG there is no comparison. i wanted to either use which i havent done in years or rip my face off lol its funny now but it definatley wasnt funny a few days ago while i was feeling that way! So i spoke to a good friend whos going through the same thing and he told me that they just came out with a new pill to get you off suboxone. I just want to know if that's true. I tryed googleing it but i cant find any thing. If you have heard of this new pill please respond or if you even have a good way to get off soboxone as painless and posible... thanx

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Hey Lala, Don,t know if there are 4mg strips but I do know they make 2mg strips.

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I would try licking the package. I don't even care. That's what I would do if I was weaning myself down. Isn't there suppose to be 4mg strips? That would be much easier to wean then the 8mg strips.

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Monkey everyone is different when it comes to wd symptoms some do very well and others like me dont i have to say suboxone really saved my life i was takeing about 25 to 30 norco 1000mgs a day i had got really bad and a girl i was dateing got me to try this and it worked i was on the norco for 11 or 12 years and now all i do is 2 8mgs subs but ive been trying to get off them also ive not relapsed but ive not been doing what i want to accomplish because i went to fast im getting ready to try again i hope and pray i can do it this time im just gonna go slower this time and get down as low as possible before i stop it may take several months but i will do this ive started catting back today when you begin its easy to cut down by half till i get down to 2mgs a day thats where i always want to keep cutting by half and it has got me a few times my plan is to cut down by half every 10 days till i get to 2mgs then im going to cut by 1/3 see if that works i also plan on excercise and eating good meals ive never had a weight problem in my life ive never been over 165 lbs and now im up to 180 but i needed to gain some and i hope with the excercise and meals i can tone up some i feel great and i know ill feel even better when all this is over keep up with your plan keep strong you can do this

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Thanks for your feedback! I know it will be very tough. Sounds like I need to get way down to .5 before I take a week off. Ugh. I'm not looking forward to this. The doctor said that many people don't have a difficult time getting off of it. I can't imagine this is true. I'm a licensed therapist and I specialize in addiction for many years. Not sure I would encourage someone to go the Suboxone route.

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everyone is definitely different when it comes to tapering....i went from 8mg to 2mg in a matter of a week and a half and had no issues at all...i was on it for 5 years....i know some people who got sick dropping down just 1mg but i never had that issue at all.....i never took over 8mg though....i think people that take anymore that 8mg is a waste and not needed....32mg a day is just beyond ridiculous....to me its definitely a mental thing when it comes to how much mg u should be taking....8mg is plenty to take trust me...but when it comes to tapering i would try to do a big jump (ex: 8mg to 4mg) just to see how ur body reacts to it....thats exactly what i did....one morning instead of taking a full 8mg strip i said screw it and i took half (4mg) and i was fine! In my opinion trying it like that is the best way at the very beginning because you dont know how your body is going to react to it.....its best to do it at the very beginning of your taper because if you are fine doing a big jump then doing a slow taper would be a waste of time....now if you cant do a big jump then obviously a slow taper works best....you have to try every option first...you will hear a different taper plan from every single person because there is no correct way to taper....its all about what works for you....after i jumped from 8 to 2mg i stayed on the 2mg for a while tho then i gradually started cutting down after that...at my last few months on subs my Dr was only prescribing 5 (five) 2mg strips a month and they would last me an entire month....i started cutting the 2mg films in 6-7 little pieces and just started taking them that way....i was a little uncomfortable for a couple days but it was nothing major....i was down to about .2 mgs when i got off the subs....but i used tramadol at the very end and that stuff saved my ass big time!!! a week or 2 on trams at a maximum of 200mg a day and it 100000000% worked for me....you arent replacing subs with an opiate when u do trams so dont listen to that nonsense if people tell u not to take them....you arent gonna get addicted to them by being on them for a week or 2 and you arent going to have seizures from them....all they do is take away the WD symptoms so dont expect to get an opiate high from them and definitely do not take more than 400mg in a day (u should be fine at like 150-200mg anyway)....my last 2 days i took a half of a 50mg tram and that was it i never looked back!.....unfortunaltey there is no possible way to get off subs without having some type of WD symptoms but tapering down to the lowest possible mg will definitely make it easier to deal with....but trust me if u can get trams from your Dr then do it!! It will make it 100000 times easier.....

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Monkey I agree with Steve, you should go as far down as possible. I started on 32 mg and went down to 24 mg then to 16 mg, then 12 mg then 8 mg and I dropped 1 mg every week until now I am on1 mg and I can't for the life of me get off this 1 mg. it's much harder than you think. It does also depend on how long you have been on it, I have been on it for 7 years. I think If I would have stopped after a year I would have been good but after that it just gets harder and harder.
I hope you are strong and continue to come down, if anyone has any suggestions on getting off this 1 mg I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Cheri

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Monkey its just my opinion but i think i would keep going till i got down to .5mgs it will help with the wd and a better chance of not relapsing also excersize and eating good meals will help i know that 3mgs dont seem like a lot but suboxone is very strong and very hard to stop i hope you do get off this i know how hard it is ive been trying for awhile and its hard just keep faith and keep strong you can do this let us know how things go were here for support if you need us if we dont know we will find out thanks. Steve

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Hey guys,
I'm loving all this great info. I was a chronic pain patient for 15 years and was addicted to opiates. When the pain was resolved I went on Suboxone. I've been on it for over 4 years and I've decided to get off. Because of pain issues, I increased the dose to 12 mg a day. Omg, when I only take 8 I feel so crappy. I don't need it for pain now, but I feel the wd so I can't just go back to 8. After reading all of this, I think I'll take 10 for the next 2 weeks and if I feel ok, I'll go to 9mg. Do you think going down 1 mg every 2 weeks is too fast? I'm thinking maybe when I get down to 3 mg I'll take a week off work and drop to zero. I would have 9 days to get through it. Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Vivitrol is basically the blocker that is in suboxone

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@lisa Are you talking about vivitrol? It's an injection you get once a month....

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I can't remember what its called either I will ask my Dr on Thurs but there is something you can take to help with WD from suboxone but you have to be off suboxone for week before you can take that's the only problem I was only taking vicodin too and I took 2 pills every 4 hrs so I was even going by prescribed amount but got pregnant and now I'm stuck on this crap too I will ask her what it is

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I really appreciate your kind words. I have been on 1.5 Subutex a day for a little over a year now. My doc says it's time to detox and I am scared and excited at the same time. I just don't want to feel "fuzzy" headed anymore and would love to lose weight and be me. I am very manic when I am sober and it scares the hell out of me because I have a 20 month old baby boy now and I am double majoring in college. Subutex has been a blessing but I am so ready to be sober. Any suggestions for me???

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Ye it's a generic suboxone....i took them before they were the same to me...just the milligrams are different I think they come in like 5.7 mg which somehow is suppose to be equal to 8mg suboxone....a lot of insurance companies stopped paying for name brand suboxone so they came out with these generic ones I think.....

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Has anyone heard of Zubsolv????

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Subsukyourpotential2bgreat... Are you still on here? I have been reading most of your posts.. I am very motivated by your success with getting off of subs. Great Job!!! I would like to know a little bit about Kratom and how to use it when getting off of subs. I have been on suboxone for 3.5 yrs. Now, as you probably experienced yourself, it is not to be on for such a long period of time. It has made my life suck and completely unhealthy. I can't get up out of bed, I have to force myself just to do about anything and everything, I don't eat right, I have teeth problems cuz of my diet, my life sucks. The only thing that is absolute wonderful in my life is my 3 1/2 year old girl! But I have a hard time keeping up with her because of my lack of motivation. Some days are better then others and I can keep on the go with her, but most days are not like that. And for that, I feel like the biggest piece of s*** parent! Even though she knows that I love her and get her out to play with other kids, I still feel like this is not how my life should be. Anyway, sorry for that long, boring story. I have been taking 2mg a day for the past year. If i do not take one as soon as I get up, I'm already having withdrawals and severe anxiety within hours. I have anxiety disorder and attacks for 9 years now. Even taking Zoloft, the anxiety is bad if I don't take a sub as soon as I get up. So my question for you is how much do you think I can cut down? 1mg? And for how long should I take that until I can cut down again? I have two months worth of 8/2mg left. I want to get off of this s***!!! My doc is a complete f***ing i**** (excuse my lang.)!! Says I need to be on it for life!! I told him that he was wrong. I am very, very scared of the withdrawals but thru what you have posted and other people on here posted too(good job to all of you) it seems very possible. I just wanted some advice. And does anyone know if that SubRI guy posted any new info about that research he was gonna be in for a new drug to help get off of the suboxone????? Thank you!!!

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Let me tell you about what Suboxen has done to me. I've been on it for almost. 4 years and it as been the worst. 4 years of my life. I am always angry , no motivatin I feel numb most of the time. I can't keep a relationship. I'm 45 and I've turned into a complete D***!! And I hate myself. I used to be one of those people that joked around always had a smile on my face. I want off the s*** so bad. My doc cut me off a few months back. I just couldn't afford to keep going. So he says maybe it's best we just stop. He gave me a script for 15 strips and said taper on this. Well it didn't work out for me. I'm wondering if others have experienced the same symptoms as I did ?

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Hi frankie R, There is actually a sub dr. in my area that has prescribed tramadol to some people that had trouble withdrawing from subs. A woman my gf works with was having a hard time with sub wd even after following the doctors taper so he put her on trams for about a week and she tapered down on them then was done with the whole thing.
I was going to another sub dr. at the time and asked him about this. His answer was "it,s not unheard of but he doesn,t do it" He said if someone was having difficult time he may prescribe a sleep aid but just for a few nights and something very mild for anxiety just for a couple of days.
Your 100% on the money about tapering as low as you can, it helps big time. In my opinion it,s the only way.

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im gonna say this again as i stated a couple weeks ago, the way i got off subs was tapering down then using Tramadol. PLEASE DO NOT listen to that nonsense that tramadol is bad and you will have seizures and wd bad from it. I used it for ONLY about a little more than a week and i only took a maximum of 200mgs. you shouldnt take more than 400mgs in a day. I was on Subs for over 5 years at 8mg a day for the first 3-4 years than i eventually tapered myself down to about .2-.25mgs a day. At the end my doc was prescribing me only FIVE 2mg strips a month which always lasted me a month. So i had tramadols sitting in my bathroom from a surgery i had a long time ago. The first day i took 4 50mg tramadols at 5:30am before work. I was fine the entire day. Didnt feel sick at all but didnt feel fantastic i just felt pretty ok. The next 2 days i took i think 3 50mg trams and still felt ok. Little tired but made it through the day and was cool in work. Then the next day i took 2 50mg trams then dropped down to 1 the next day. i had 1 left after that so the alst 2 days i took a half. I can honestly say i felt little to no withdraws at all. Now everyone is different and some will disagree with me but it helped me 100000%. i have been off subs over 2 months now and would never look back. And dont listen to that nonsense that you are replacing subs with an opiate. You are using it to help you with withdraws and you will not get addicted to them nor will u have a seizure if you take them for a week or 2 and only take low doses (always under 400mg). Its just like when people are withdrawing from benzos like Xanax most Drs prescribe Valium (another benzo) to help stop benzo withdraws. Like i said it helped me and worked for me. Just dont overdo it and only do it for maximum of 2 weeks. And dont expect to get "high" from the trams and decide to take a bunch of them to try and get that opiate high because then u will be doing yourself harm and trust me you aint gonna get an opiate high from them. Just take them to help the WDs. You have to be eating them things like candy for a good amount of time at high mgs (over 400mg) to start having seizures and all that crap. i know alot will disagree with me but it worked for me and got me the hell of subs after almost 6 years on that crap. if you want more info just let me know and i will give anyone my personal email for any questions or advice. But pleaseeeee people stop listening to "horror stories" they do not help and just put more nonsense in your head. so if you have trams or can get them and you feel like u would be able or willing to try it then by all means go for it. 2 weeks on them at low doses you will be fine. you wont die and you wont get addicted to trams and u wont have seizures trust me. But make sure u taper down from subs first. Do not jump off subs at like 4mgs and start taking trams because its not gonna happen. And i never had any issues tapering down. i know alot of people say they felt sick trying to taper but i was cool tapering down. every month i tapered down almost 1-2 mgs. But i stayed at the .2-.25mg for a while almost a year so im sure that helped me big time.

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Have you stopped taking the half mg once a day? If so, when did you stop?
I,m not sure what to suggest for energy. If you read some of the other posts and replies they suggest different vitamins for different things.
Sleeps allways been a big issue for me so if you can get something for when you can,t sleep that will help a lot. Only take them when you really can,t get to sleep.
Gotta get to work. Hang in there.

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If I was down to half mg a day, I know to expect WD's..on suvs little over a yr.what to expect? And how to get energy?

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