How Long After Taking A Suboxone Can You Take An Opiate? (Page 5) (Top voted first)

I have been on 8 mg/2mg Suboxone strips for 1 year. I am having a tooth (back molar) extraction in the morning. I used my Suboxone strip this morning & the tooth extraction is at 9:30 am tomorrow. If I don't use another Suboxone strip before the extraction, would I be able to take Hydrocodone after my surgery? I don't want to get sick, but I am terrified of going through this surgery with no pain meds. Please help.

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I've been taking 10/325 percent for almost two years now how do I get off and don't get sick? Please help

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MONICA: If you are a physically dependent on opioids, you are going to feel bad when you decrease or stop them. There's really no way around it. You could decrease your dosage EXTREMELY slowly, and the withdrawal would be much less intense. But the only way to avoid going through withdrawal altogether is to get on an ORT (Opioid Replacement Therapy), such as Methadone or Suboxone. If you need to find a Suboxone doctor, google Suboxone.com and you can find one in your area. Good luck.

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KATYBOB: Taking full-agonist opioids along with an antagonist like Bupe is pretty pointless. My Addiction Specialist and I are both quite shocked to hear of all the doctors out there prescribing Bupe and full-agonist opioids side by side. Completely counterproductive, and at times downright DANGEROUS. Here's some opioids, and then here's some opioid-addiction meds to go with them? Why?

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COOTIE: If I am understanding you correctly: How long after taking Suboxone can one take 10mgs of Methadone? You can take the Methadone right away, but you won't feel it. There is no use in taking a full-agonist opioid like Methadone after Suboxone, because, to put it really simply, the Methadone won't break through the Suboxone in your brain, so it won't do anything for you. And whatever you do, DON'T take the Suboxone too soon after the Methadone. You will get REALLY REALLY SICK!!

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If you are on suboxone and you take a dose of another opiate besides suboxone you should be fine depending upon the dose and the drug you took. One should be careful because one can die from taking to much to soon after taking suboxone. And If you are on other opiates besides suboxone and you switch to suboxone before coming down off the other opiate or opiates, you can go into what they call precipitated withdrawal. So either way you go you should be careful because one, you can die, and two, you can get very sick.

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STACEY: You can take full-agonist opioids soon after taking Suboxone. You just won't FEEL the opioids because your receptors will be fully coated with the Suboxone and the full-opioids won't be able to attach. It is when you take Suboxone too soon after full-agonist opioids that is the problem. You have it backwards.

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I disagree with this point of view because it doesn't take into account the underlying psychological causes of addiction. There is more to a human being than brain and nerve structures. With every physical symptom there is a psychological component. Counseling with a competent clinical psychologist and group therapy can greatly increase a person's chances of staying off any kind of addicting substance. The problem in our society is that addicted people are left to fight alone. They are stigmatized and ostracized. Instead of being gently encouraged, they are made to feel like they have an incurable disease; like they are an incurable disease. They are told that withdrawal is so horrible that nobody can get through it. The so-called professionals who perpetuate this negative, self-defeating attitude are, IMHO, ignorant, mean spirited and unprofessional. It's like they want to be able to point the finger at somebody else and say, "I'm better than you."

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Wow there really is so much bad information out there. Stacey. You are totally wrong. Read what you Said. It's not the way it works. Stop giving out bad information please. Thanks.

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KKh. The only way I can answer you is our bodies are all different. I think people read too much on the internet. And based off that. They have all the answers. What doesn't work for one might work for another.

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no the withdraws only work the other way if you take a sub to soon after taking a opiate

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Um. Ok. If you say so. I understand how it works. Thank you very much for your input. And I've met doctors that should have read information on the internet, because they were compete *****s.

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TONY: Oh you are right about the clueless doctors. It blows my mind, at least going by what people post on here, how many doctors are actually prescribing full-agonist opioids along with an opioid antagonist. Totally counter-productive. In order for doctors to even be able to prescribe Bupe, they have to take a special course and get certification. Apparently many of these doctors were asleep in class. Good luck to you.

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I was hurt 13 years ago. I've been doing opiates and subs on and off for 13 years. I know what you are saying. I'm not doubting that. If I wait 5 hours I'm good personally. It works for me. I don't care what or who or why. All I am stating is that for the last time. It works for me. Not everyone else I understand that.

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Js: Yes, that should not be a problem. I don't know how much a "quarter strip" is, since I only did tablet Bupe, but you should be fine. Not sure why you would WANT to take Bupe and Percocet together, but that's your business.

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If u are on subs then u can't take pain meds with the subs the pain meds will be useless ..I had surgery after being on subs for two years and when the surgery was schedualed my doctor took my off subs prescribe me morphine sulfate so I wouldn't get in withdrawal and then I could start my pain meds about five days after being on morphine sulfate u have to get the subs out of your system before starting a pain regiment I was told this by my doct otherwise it will be a waste of meds to take subs and opiats at same time

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BEEBOP: Yep. Full agonist painkillers have to have an opioid receptor to "fit into" in order to do their job. And since the Subs completely fill in your opioid receptors, there is nowhere for the painkillers to go. So it is indeed a waste to try taking painkillers AFTER taking Subs. And it can also be dangerous if you take too much, trying to "override" the Subs. Just a bad idea altogether. I have to wonder about all these people trying their damndest to feel high while taking Subs. "How soon after taking Subs will I feel Oxys?" etc. Why are they even ON Subs, if they are still trying to use? What a waste of time, money and resources. Take one or the other....taking both is ridiculous, and can be downright DANGEROUS. Plus, you do NOT want to go through Precipitated Withdrawals.

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ALLEYC: Yes, Clonazepam and Lorazepam are Benzodiazepines, and therefore not affected by Suboxone. As far as you saying you are "running out and getting withdrawal"...could you be more specific? Are you saying that you are running out of the Benzos? There would definitely be a withdrawal from that.

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Sorry, but I'm gonna have to call BS on someone going down that rapidly from Subs and being "just fine" during the process. Especially after being on a steady amount for two years. Heck, you really wouldn't even FEEL the drop much for a couple of days. So.... sorry if I offend any of you, but I'm not buying that one at all.

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You do not get pracipitory withdrawls going from Suboxone to an opiate!

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kkh. That's pretty amazing. Our stories are similar. I'm also 48 years old. I would like to talk to you more. {edited for privacy}. Thanks.

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