How Can I Get Subutex Not Suboxone? (Page 2)
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I don't know how to go about this as I am shaking and can barely focus, I need help! Please. I fear that my life is going to end from my abuse of opiates. I am currently taking 250 mgs of oxycontin per day. I have a loving fiance and a stepdaughter that I want to be here for. I sit here with cold sweats, and fear going out just because I may make the fearful turn to the meds. Any and all info on how to obtain Subutex would be much appreciated. This wasn't what I wanted my life to be, and I can not let it end this way..Please help me. I am not a religious man but I pray for help as I am at my wits end with this drug.

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Hey there Fred I am sorry your going through it buddy hold on and you'll get through it, the answer to this is very simple. A Dr. will prescribe you suboxone by default as it has blockers in it that prevent you from getiing high from the intake of opiates. They will prescribe you subotex if you have an allergic reaction to suboxone or some other medical complication. So if you look up allergic reactions and then allow them to prescribe you suboxone, the next time you see them you can tell them your having these reactions.
Responsibly I should suggest that if you really want to stop get yourself into N.A. or even A.A. I prefer AA although I do not drink. However sitting through a N.A. meeting has always made my cravings worse and most of my relapses have been directly after a N.A.. Addiction is a wide spread problem and people have some very strong feelings on the subject. I find it annoying and irresponsible for so many people to ignore your actual question and make a judgment, and just push their agenda. It is YOUR recovery buddy own it. No guilt, no self hatred just push forward from here. Choosing subutex when you are initially trying to kick is a wise decision there is no reason for you to suffer. When your condition is stabilized then you should try to transition in suboxone. But again you need to remember that guilt and negative feelings are probably going to lead to continued use. There are a ton of different treatment options, impatient is not always the best option especially for those of us who have a family that relies on our income. There is also outpatient and 12 step programs. With 12 step programs you can go about your recovery anonymously. Though the most important thing to recovery is a support network getting a sponsor or a counselor or even a good friend. But that really is a lot to lay on a buddy unless they themselves are also trying to maintain sobriety. Basically you have to hit the reset button in your head and it will take a little time the first couple of weeks are he'll. I am so sorry but that is the truth. But it does get better every day. Chin up though your already doing good just by asking for help. And there is always to talk to about it. Even me I am willing to talk to anyone who is struggling and trying not to use. Good luck Fred, smile, it WILL get better I promise.

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ONLYME: I'm so sorry, I just saw your question today. Anyway, what happened with that appointment? Did they make you accept Suboxone rather than Subutex? I am curious as to how that went for you. I am not sure if Naloxone has adverse effects for someone with a pacemaker, or for any kind of a heart condition for that matter. Please let me know what happened if you can.

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me too!! What did you end up doing?? I'm in the sameeee boat!!!

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Will they offer subtex if you have heart problems I have a pacemaker and episodes of super ventricular tacadia I have an appointment with clean slate this week I am just curious

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OCD: In fact, the federal government is cracking down on "drug courts" that refuse to let their participants use Subuxone, therefore INCREASING the use of Suboxone for drug addiction.

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OCD: Can you please provide a link or more information to this alleged "federal ban" on Subutex/Suboxone? I work with a leading addiction doctor in our area, and we have not heard of this. So if you can provide some information regarding your claim, I would greatly appreciate it.

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I get bad sweats and compulsive behavior from suboxone. Subutex is a better alternative. But if u plan on just getting high. Well you will ruin it for everyone else. There is a federal movement to ban this drug completely. It will happen it's just a matter of time,when no one can get it.

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CRAZYLADY: Yes, there is an additional drug added to the Bupe, but not THAT much. Three times the price is ridiculous. I know that the Naloxone inj. kits that you can get for emergencies contain 3 doses, and those three doses are about $50 bucks for most of us who have insurance. So it isn't a cheap drug. (By comparison, my month's supply of tablet Methadone is about $30) But making the price TRIPLE? That's unfortunate. I still have to think that it's cheaper than buying a month's worth Oxycodone.

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First of all many like myself are truly allergic to the naloxone and box is 3x higher than tex In my state and I'm sure it is everywhere else there's a whole separate drug added to it which is not cheap fact

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LEANE: The only way to actually "abuse" the Subutex is to inject it. Otherwise there is no real way to abuse either drug. The Naloxone in Suboxone is only in there to keep people from injecting it. And injecting Subutex is BEYOND desperate. Anyone with a legit opioid addiction isn't going to get "high" from Subutex.

I'm glad you are finding the Subutex to be useful. I too had problems with the Naloxone. My medical file says I am allergic to it, It made me feel HORRIBLE!

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I have been on the subutex for 3 years and my life has totally turned around for the better and not every one abuses the tablets! I think if ur serious about your recovery then u don't abuse any meds that u take, I certainly never have!!! So before u say people want the subutex to abuse it over suboxone, think again. It's because the naloxone makes people's bellys hurt n gives me migraines! There lots of reasons why people want subutex over suboxone, simply because it's a better drug than any other to get u clean n stay that way without major withdrawals and side effects!! Thanks.

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MICHELLE: You need to go on Suboxone.com and put in your zipcode. You will get a list of Suboxone doctors in your area. Call them and ask if it would be possible to go onto Subutex instead of Suboxone. Tell them you have a Naloxone allergy. Do you have any documentation that shows you have a Naloxone sensitivity or allergy? Like in your medical files? You may need to go to the ER with some "bad symptoms" like migraines and extreme nausea (if you get what I'm saying) in order to get documentation that you can't take Naloxone. I am actually allergic to Naloxone, so I understand what you are going through. When I first started Bupe, I felt HORRIBLE... migraines almost daily and nausea so bad I couldn't see straight. My Dr. switched me to Subutex, and all that went away. So now it's in my file that I am allergic to Naloxone. Good luck!

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Bro don't be scared. I was taking 40 5mg percocet everyday. Stacking it with 40 t1s a day. I was in the same situation. 2 years everyday. Never and I mean never did I miss a day. I was so scared of withdrawing. I went thru it before cold turkey. The worst thing in my life. I had to quit my job. You need to ask yourself do u want to die?? Or be on dialysis for the rest of your life. You seem to be ready to quit cuz u want to. So go on suboxone. I swear it was the easiest thing to do. I have 2 friends that got off with it. They told me how easy it was. I didn't believe them for a year. Then finally I knew I had to get off the percs or die. So I stopped all the percs for 20 hours and took my first dose of subs and I was born again. Very little withdrawal for 1-2 days. My dosage was upped everyday until I reached 14 mg. Now it's not good getting hooked to subs but bro it's life and death now. No choice. The money you will save. The time with your family. The not having to worrying about scoring. I tell you you're a new person. Then once your on subs your mind will clear then you can start thinking normal and taking your life back. Then gradually you will taper the subs. Don't wait bro. U will be kicking yourself after wondering why did it take me so long to go on the subs. Please go.

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I'm going thru seboxin withdrawals it made me sick give me headaches is there a subutex Dr in my area mooresville nc 28115?

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I'm in Hampton Roads VA / VA Beach and I have no problem getting it filled. Almost every pharmacy here either has it or will order it just for you. And you can download prescription discount apps to use for a discount to get it even cheaper if your insurance doesn't cover or if you have no insurance

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Where are you located? Might be able to help you find a place. I go to a pretty good doctor. He's a nice guy and isn't completely over stocked with patients like most doctors

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PAUL,

Search Suboxone.com to find a doctor who is able to prescribe Subutex/Suboxone in your area. Good luck!

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I currently have an opiate habit. I'm a 5.7, 150lb male. How can I get subutex?

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I've done this twice now. Go on the Suboxone website, click on near me, enter zip code. Boom 20+ suboxone doctors at your disposal. They really do care about you if it's a small clinic. Alain don't take any op's the day of or 12 hours before or they will not let you start the outpatient treatment that day. It has literally turned my life around in 6 months.

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DANI: Yes I remember talking to you a while ago. Let me see if I can at least answer MOST of your questions.

So I was on Bupe from 2009 to 2014, and now just over two years on the Methadone, 2015-present. I was always on the tablet Subutex, and never did the film, as Subutex only comes in tablets. Now I am on tablet Methadone that I get from a doctor, so I don't go to the Methadone clinic. I have done the Methadone clinics in the past though. I am currently on 70mgs of Methadone, and have titrated down from a starting dose of 90mgs. I am getting ready to go down another 5mgs to 65mgs in the next week or two. I go down to 5mgs, wait until I am FULLY adjusted (usually about 4 to 6 weeks) and then I go down another 5mgs.

When I switched from Bupe to Methadone, the doctor I was working with was retiring from seeing patients. We talked about the fact that I would probably do better on the Methadone, but since he was getting ready to retire, he needed to find me a doctor that would prescribe it for me, which he did. I also suffer from fibromyalgia, and that is "technically" what it is prescribed for. If you are on Methadone purely for addiction/recovery, it is very hard to find a private doctor to prescribe it, and you end up at the clinic. With my work, I can not do the clinic system. (I am often gone for days or weeks at a time, in remote places that don't have Methadone clinics)

Physically, making the switch from Bupe to Methadone is easy, It's switching from Methadone to Bupe that can be a problem, since Methadone is so long acting. It is recommended that you be on 30mgs or lower before switching to Bupe, and you need to stop the Methadone AT LEAST 48 hours before. The more you are on, the longer you have to wait. I recently worked with someone who was on a fairly high dose of Methadone, 75mgs, and they went into precipitated withdrawals EVEN AFTER 6 DAYS OFF THE Methadone! But I just stopped taking the Subs and started the Methadone the next day, no problem. It took a few days to figure out what the proper dose was though, so I felt pretty crappy for a day or two as my doctor started me on a low dose and then went up.

I never had any "nasty side effects" from the Subutex, only from the Suboxone because of the Naloxone. You may indeed have a Naloxone sensitivity or even an allergy. Have you been taking it without problems, and just NOW are feeling side effects? That one has me a bit puzzled. People's body's change though, and as we get older, we can actually develop allergies to things that were never a problem before.

Yes, Methadone is a full-agonist opioid, just like Vicodin, Oxycodone and Morphine. Bupe is a partial-agonist, partial-antagonist opioid, which makes it a bit trickier to deal with. Methadone it is just as physically addictive as any other opioids, and tough to get off of. That's why I have to titrate down VERY SLOWLY. I may have to be on a small dose of Methadone for life, but I would like to TRY to get off of it, or at least come down to a lower dose. My doctors say that people with long term or "stubborn" addictions (like me) seem to do better on Methadone, since it is full-agonist. He also says I need to look at it like a diabetic who needs to take insulin in order to be healthy. There are some of us who would really struggle without some sort of ORT, and if I can't completely come off of the Methadone, then so be it.

It sounds like Bupe is working for you, but the Naloxone is messing with your body. You may want to bring this up to your doctor, and see if you can get Subutex instead. You have been clean this whole time, and are not someone who uses needles, so hopefully your doctor (or another doctor) can help you. The only reason that Naloxone is even in Suboxone is to keep addicts from taking the pure Bupe intravenously. Very little of the Naloxone is absorbed when taken sublingually (less than 10%) but it is of course 100% absorbed when taken intravenously. This is called the bioavailability of a drug. So if an addict takes the Suboxone intravenously, they get a big whammy of that horrible Naloxone, and you don't want that. But taking Subutex intravenously is a joke anyway. Anyone with a legit opioid habit isn't going to feel "high" from Subutex, no matter how they do it, or how much. That's how it's designed to work.

I am a long time, 30 year+ opioid addict, and I never got into the pills at all, or any other drugs for that matter. In fact, there is a bottle of Vicodin in the medicine chest right now from my spouse having a fractured shoulder. I'm not even tempted.

If I was you, I would do what I can to get Subutex instead of Suboxone. That Naloxone had me so messed up, I couldn't even work. Life is too short to walk around with headaches and nausea. And as a gourmet cook, I agree that eating good food is one of our best pleasures, so you need to do something about that. Just have a talk with your doctor, and if he/she won't help you, go on that Suboxone website and find another one who will. Call around and explain your situation. Let me know if you have any more questions.

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