How Can I Get Subutex Not Suboxone? (Page 12)
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I don't know how to go about this as I am shaking and can barely focus, I need help! Please. I fear that my life is going to end from my abuse of opiates. I am currently taking 250 mgs of oxycontin per day. I have a loving fiance and a stepdaughter that I want to be here for. I sit here with cold sweats, and fear going out just because I may make the fearful turn to the meds. Any and all info on how to obtain Subutex would be much appreciated. This wasn't what I wanted my life to be, and I can not let it end this way..Please help me. I am not a religious man but I pray for help as I am at my wits end with this drug.

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Subutex is way cheaper then suboxone!!!!

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There are generalizations that fit all addicts - GENERALLY. A big problem with these pseudo-certified "Addiction Medial Specialists" (that specialty does exist according to National Association of Medical Specialists); the "Certification means nothing) is that they tend to look at drugs users as addicts through the same narrow lens. ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL in treating folks with drug problems. Although I"m busy as Hell, I treat my patents as individuals — and when I absolutely have to be away, I can post date WRITTEN SCRIPTS or have my Admin. Asst., an NP with the Prescriptive Privilege. If I have to be away. I offer a N/C phone session. Many Internists and FPs I work with (we have pts in common) will pinch hit for me PRN. We have good outcomes in our Drug Treatment Program, too and I"m not the boss (we wrk together)

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hey i know what you are saying....looking for that "quick fix", being sneaky; its the nature of the beast with addiction. my point was that my doctors dont have anything i want or need to feel "high". so i have no need to "con" my doctors out of anything. absolutely no need. i dont have any fake back injuries that im trying to "medicate", nor do i "doctor shop", nor do i have 5 different drs. giving me different pills. theres half a bottle of vicodin in our medicine chest from when my hubbs broke his shoulder. been there for months and ive never even touched it, its not my thing. my dr. gives methadone, and i am on the proper dose. i am not craving constantly, im not in withdrawal, but im not getting loaded off of it either. people with opiate tolerances dont really get "loaded" off of too much methadone, they just get sleepy. been there, not my thing. so again, i have no reason to "con my doctor". that so-called doctor that commented below? sorry, but his one-size-fits-all, cookie cutter style of treatment doesnt always work. life isnt black and white like that, its many, many shades of grey. my dr. even stopped giving me UAs because if i use, i just tell him! so some narcissist telling me im a liar just because "all addicts do this" and "all addicts say that"...it really doesnt matter to me. and he keeps saying whether i think he is a doctor or not is irrelevant to him, yet he puts all his specialties and credentials, trying to prove it to me. so which is it? if he can help people get clean, thats all that matters. but him saying he "wouldnt have me as a patient"? well that works for me b.c. i wouldnt have him for a dr. i am an individual, not a "typical junkie" popped out of a mold. and all the narcissim, condescention, insults etc? its not only unnecessary, its kinda pathetic. arguing with and trying to prove himself to an addict. i mean, he's supposedly a doctor; what does he care what some junkie thinks? i think about my drs., and they would NEVER get into some argument with an addict on a drug forum, listing their credentials, trying to prove themselves. i mean, really? but in the end, if he is helping even one addict stay off junk, then thats a good thing.

good luck in your quest to stay healthy. i know how you feel and how you struggle, believe me.

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I have to agree I am a recovering alcoholic and I myself am always looking for the quick fix. I have always switched addictions whether it be drugs, food, men, etc.....that has just been my experience. Until I could be okay in my own skin and be able to look at my own reflection in the mirror. And believe me it has taken me every bit of 26 or 27 years. And it is journey not a destination. I won't get it right until I meet the Big guy.

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I have the licenses but I only approve Subutex scripts my Residents write. I've never prescribed it myself. Do you think jumping fro maintenance medication to maintenance medication is anything like recovery/ I do have an MD (Yale) and a PhD in Pharmacology (Columbia U.). Whether you accept these or not is irrelevant to me. You'e an addict and you've never conned a doc? That's a lie right there. Patients with Affective Disorders often need ongoing meds, regardless of their addiction Hx. (Good example is Bipolar I Disorder; Panic Attack Disorder w/Agoraphobia or Major Depressive Episode). I certainly prescribe for them. I wouldn't accept you as a pt and you wouldn't like me. My decisions are based on what is in the best interest of my patient. not always what he/she wants.YOUR story is boring; I've only heard it a thousand times in many different versions but the theme is the same "Doc, you're going to give me what I WANT, even if I have to hold my breath until I turn blue." That's never worked with me, but I am considered very much patient oriented.

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".....con another doctor"? wow, you make a lot of assumptions. I've never had to "con a doctor" in my life. I am an addict. I certainly dont need a doctor to feel high. nice try on the insults and assumptions tho. i should have stuck to what i said and just deleted your ridiculous responses. now you feel you have to prove yourself and your credentials to someone you accuse of being a 15 year old con artist. you CLAIM to have this credential and that credential (still suspect) and yet you have to stroke your own ego by insulting an addict on a chat room? um....ok.

boy, am i glad i came across dr. steven wright instead of the likes of you when i looked up "suboxone doctors"! he literally saved my life. but you? wow. what a "bedside manner"! if you really are a doctor (doubtful) i feel bad for your patients, i really do. get some therapy. you clearly need it. maybe putting down an addict on a forum is therapeutic for you. i mean, you do seem like a "has to have the last word" kind of guy. so go for it, its all yours. i promise i wont reply because at this point you are just BORING.

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Didn't mean he was Board-certified in a field that doesn't yet exist. I have a PhD in Pharmacology. A doctor's job is to do what's best for the patient, not what's most convenient for all concerned. As for me, I'm certified a licensed and Board-certified Psychiatrist with five or six specialty sub-certifications, such as Child and Adolescent; Forensic Psychiatry; Psychosomatic Psychiatry, etc. Look at your post. That was written by a spoiled 15-year old throwing a tantrum because she didn't con another doctor'; it is not the prose of a reasonable adult. Q.E.D.

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Personally I see subutex better than methadone they aren't as bad cause I been out sub's for about a year and I remember taking methadone and its a lot stronger and I bet its the pink liquid but I guess whatever works for u

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my doctor was the addiction specialist for the denver nuggets basketball team, speaks regularly in front of the legislature, and is now a consultant who speaks about opioids all around the country. (he retired from his practice after 30 years) i will go ahead and trust him and my current physician/addiction specialist instead of some narcissist on a chat. the reason i am just now stabilized is 100% my fault, not his. too much to get into here. and you know how they say you cant get clean unless you WANT to? at 15 i didnt WANT to be clean. so all that "if you were MY patient, it would have all been rosy, blah blah blah..." ? save it. i was addressing your rude comment about people "just wanting to feel high". you certainly dont SOUND like a "nice guy" by any means. like i said, if i wanted to feel HIGH, i would just buy dope. anyone with an ACTUAL opiate tolerance/addiction? too much methadone just makes you sleep and too much subutex doesnt do ****. so maybe your little 15 year old addicts that pretend they want to be clean to get their parents off their backs? maybe they can feel high on methadone. but anyone with a REAL habit? nope. reply if you want, dont reply, i dont really care. i doubt i will respond or even read it for that matter. because any "doctor" (which i still doubt you are) who says the things you have said here should probably be avoided anyway.

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"Addiction Medicine" is not even a recognized medical specialty. No Boards to pass; minimal Continuing Ed requirements. You still haven't been stabilized on a dose?? Not the kind of docs I would hire or call in to consult. I don't suppose any f these medical geniuses suggested DETOXING and QUITTING back when you were 15. I have patients that age who are clean by the next year. If you have other issues, let a competent psychiatrist treat them, not somebody as illl-qualified as an "Addiction Specialist." My patients, in general, like me — I"m a nice guy — but my Diu Tx patients especially resonate with me because I've been there done that with half the pills in the PDR.

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Are you serious? "looking to feel high without too much inconvenience"? WOW. thats pretty harsh. I have been an opiate addict since i was 15. (i am now 46) after going back and forth between subutex, dope, methadone for years...i am now on 90 mgs of tablet methadone and am finally on the "right" dose. Not feeling sick but not nodding out at 2 on the afternoon. I'm certainly not "looking to feel high", because if i want to i will just buy smack. And im certainly glad that my addiction specialist doesn't have your arrogant, condescending attitude. UGH

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I've treated a fair number of "rich kids" addicted to opiates and haven't found ONE pretending to be an addict for the attention. The one or two-times in my career this happened, it didn't get past me beyond your first session. I'm Board-certified in Child & Adolescent Psychiatry, which further qualifies me to work with kids. As I tell my patients; "The money didn't jump out of your pocket into the dealer's hands and the drugs didn't jump up your nose or in your veins." I have the licenses mentioned, although I've only used them to countersign scripts written by my fully-licensed Residents whose judgment I trust. I'm not a fan of substituting one opiate for another unless we're appealing to the Court of Last Resort. You're just looking or more excuses to feel high without too much inconvenience. That's NOT RECOVERY. (And I"m no fan of 12-step "cults" either.)

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are u in colorado by chance? i know a dco that may be able to help if you are.

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I need a subutex dr I can't take soboxone!!

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Don't know where you live Dr. Rich only prescribed subutex but doesn't see anyone with insurance that's the reason he lets ppl get the tex cause they're cheaper if your paying cash and I have heard of many people abusing Suboxone then it didn't throw them into withdrawals so I don't believe there's a difference. He's in Amanda Ohio

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This is a replie for Ishmael. You have some very good information, but not everyone who is receives Subutex takes it any other way then told by their doctors! Now has for Subutex being around the same price or even more money. Then Suboxone is definitely not true.. I have seen it first hand all you need to do is shop around. I saved over $250 dollars a month that's almost 3000$ dollars a Year!

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To everyone that says you get a buzz from subutex, you must be able to feel high on lawn clippings too. I've had both subutex and suboxone. I've had back surgery, and have chronic back pain. Now I take subutex for the chronic back pain, and it works better than any opiate I have ever tried. Suboxone is way too expensive compared to the subutex.

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u don't have insurance and tell them I can't afford the sub films that's what worked for me I get subutex

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Try doctor Woodard in Columbus on east broad street I think

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I'M RONALD. I live in New Castie, IN. I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED W/ CRONIC LOWER BACK PAIN, DEGENERATIVE DISK DIS., bulging...herniated disks and nerve damage. Subutex is a god send. It's how i make it through the day. My old doctor keeps giving everyone the "runaround". Please help me find a new doctor asap. {edited for privacy}....thank you for your time.

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