How Can I Get Prescribed Subutex Instead Of Suboxone (Page 2) (Top voted first)

i get sick everytime i take my dose of suboxone. I throw up everytime. but my doctor will not switch me to the subutex even though it is in my charts that i have yaken the subutex and never got nausiated. what do i need to say or do to get my doctor to understand and switch me? i also have severe intestinal problems that get aggravated with the suboxone, what can i do. i do not want to quit treatment but i cant keep throwing up everyday all day. please someone help me.

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Tricky,
Says the narsacistic self entitled idelog answering a question that wasn't even asked. What perverse need compels you to frequent drug use forums, if you posses such vitriolic bias opinions Why are you here? It's abundantly clear that you subscribe to some fanatical religious teachings sect that casts aspersions upon the weak and disenfranchised .Why don't you and your followers stand in line and drink the kool aide.

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Yes I am very aware of the pros and cons of both Suboxone and Methadone...I should have added that I refused the Methadone maintenance straight from the gate because I do not have any interest in taking it long term or even short term for that matter... Like I said before, I considered Suboxone a miracle drug when I first started the program but in my heart of hearts knew I was getting myself into another addiction and possibly worse if it wasn't given to me for life. I have thoroughly researched Suboxone throughout the time I've been taking it which is just over six years and do so a lot because I want to gain as much knowledge as I can and I talk to and counsel with both new and long term Suboxone patients.... You wouldn't believe the calls I get with questions about it-- I'm from a smaller area and like to share and discuss information with people and help them if I can.:) one of the things I do say to people is that it is true; in a sense you cannot abide the Suboxobe if taken correctly; you can only get so much off of it, the difference in taking 2 or 10 is nothing; you are just wasting the medication because you're not going to get any "higher." Also the Suboxone is highly abused with IV users; they most definitely get high from the Subs; I am aware that it isn't supposed to be that way but sadly it is. As I said before I am not and have never been an IV user but I do know first hand that both the Suboxone and Subutex are abused by IV users and that is both pills and strips. They may need another dose sooner than if taken under the tongue but they are high as a kite either way. The main reason why the strips were made were to protect children and make it less easy to tamper with, however I've heard it from more than one doctor that they will only prescribe strips because they are impossible or way less likely to abuse. This frustrates me because I know fully well they are being abused even MORESO and for someone like me who does take the medication correctly and taking it for so long I know the pills work much better for me because I am able to make them last longer if need be and when I have to taper this would make it much easier and cheaper as well. I have managed in six years to get my insurance to cover my Subs for about five. I currently have them covered now; I recently got another extension approval so I have been very blessed compared to some. I do not expect to get them covered forever-- I just opened an automotive body and repair shop about a month ago and will be able to afford them in a few months when my extension is through. I feel the ONLY option for me is Suboxone for life or detox and treatment to get fully clean; Methadone is not an option and NEVER was; I shot that down right when I heard it. I feel that would be going down from what I have accomplished on Suboxone-- that was my point-- why the Methadone for life and Subxone for life is still so uncommon? I have a completely different life since I started Subs six years ago. I am also unhappy with it because I am absolutely addicted still but my actions are completely different and I don't feel like I did when on opiates. My Dr. was so happy when I turned down the Methadone, but she will not prescribe Subs forever. ( she isn't the Dr. that would prescribe Methadone-- I would have to go to a clinic out of town.) My insurance company suggested it after Suboxone treatment is over or instead of Subs. They're worried I'll relapse when the taper is low and they didn't want to cover it again at first. I did get lucky and they agreed to cover it again but the main issue for me isn't so much the coverage, it's getting off of it or how to get it in pill form or even Subutex. Thanks so much for the input!!

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So here is my street diagnosis. There are two possibilities. One- you're not doing enough opiates. You're a part time user trying to get an Rx. Suboxone works miracles in real addicts with real withdrawl issues. We feel like a million bucks compared with how we did kicking. It's never going to work for you if you continue to lie about the amount you are using. You most likely don't even need a suboxone prescription. 2- you're using when you take suboxone. Can't do that.

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i feel you pain brother just like a diabetic needs insulin so it is with opiate addicts and methadone/subutex....i been going to my doctor 3 years and they are starting same ignorance ...it starts out about helping the patient ....then as they get filled up with a waiting list they become arrogant and it becomes about greed....the thing is methadone is a one dose a day drug, i am use to doing ten fixes a day so its part of my addiction how i deal with that psychologically i need three administrations a day .....i am scared to death ...i am even considering H because i am tired of worrying will this be the last month i get the meds that has changed my life....that would be like us not wanting to give insulin to diabetics ....and this suboxone subutex war is stupidly ridiculous..... we all know that the bup fills in your receptors and if the receptor are full of bup ,no other opiate can get in thus blocking the dope from releasing dopa- mine... there is no difference but i dont like suboxone it makes me depressed and like iam want to come out my skin....but the blocker is not naloxone that is a misused term if you want my uneducated opinion....naloxone neutralizes opiate ....bup fills the receptors and blocks any othter dope from getting you high ....why because the bup is already in there and then it builds like a bridge between the other receptors filling them as well....so go out and waist your money on dope it will not do anything but piss you off, and being the subs have a two day half life they end up blocking the same amount of time as the naloxone is in your system....but between the law makers big pharma and the lobbyist, addicts have no chance man, and it drives us all from what is a life saving miracle back to some vomit filled gallery on the streets....whats worse is not knowing what power the legal or illegal drug dealers will wield over our lives tomorrow...i do know it takes stability and consistency to survive this thing and it may take a lifetime, but nobody cares about junkies we are junk....thats the harsh reality of it

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It does - if you do not believe me try it -- I have been taking Subutex for 6 years. I have been taking Dilaudid for four. I take the Sub at 6 a.m - the dilaudid then at noon, six and then midnight. Back to sub at 6a. I have never gotten high from. Why I do not know however - Sub is 8mgs as is Dilaudid. Suboxone makes me terrifically ill so I stick with the subutex and have had no probs - work a full job - have no cravings - pain is gone and never ever do I feel high. Just sayin' - works for me and works for my doc.

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I don't know if Subutex would be right for me it not. My Dr will NOT prescribe Subutex though unless you are pregnant or an allergist proves you are allergic to Naloxone. I have only been taking Suboxone for a week now. I take 16 mg in the morning. I've still been having withdrawals in the evening (8-10 hrs after dosing) and all night long. My dr checked me out 2 days in a row before dosing and had be dose in front of him and see how I reacted. It brought me out if withdrawal but only lasts 8-10 hours approx. he upped my dose to 20 mg daily but my insurance will NOT cover more than 16 mg daily. My dr says I can appeal and he will go to bat for me and prove that I really do need a higher dose. I'm going to try to find a pharmacy today that will let insurance pay for 16 mg a day and I pay cash for the other 4 mg a day. I really need my medicine. I take 100 mg Seroquel, 4 mg tizanadene, 50 mg Diphenhydramine at night and still can't sleep. I do wish the Suboxone helped more with my chronic pain. I see folks recommending Methadone as an alternative if Suboxone doesn't work. The problem though, is that I live an hour away from the closest Methadone clinic and I can't afford driving there daily to dose. Also it is very expensive. It's difficult enough to pay cash for my office visits every 2 weeks for Suboxone. I Had to do something when I went to the Suboxone dr. My family dr stopped prescribing Oxycodone and say they are referring me to a pain management dr but they are SLOW! I bought Suboxone from the streets to come back from withdrawal (day 4) and thank The Lord Jesus Christ that I found a Suboxone dr so quickly (48 hrs after calling) and they continued Suboxone treatment, but legally. This did buy me some time to get Marijuana out of my body before seeing a pain management dr. My Suboxone dr didn't stress the Marijuana too much. Haven't had any in 3 weeks now!! I will be having 2 surgeries in the near future so I know opioids will be what I need for a while. Then I'll go back to my Suboxone dr unless I can find someone to try Methadone for pain management, which will hopefully have a dual purpose - pain management and less opiate cravings. I'm in Knoxville, Tn area. Any help or advice is encouraged. My wife say I need 30 mg Percocet daily max when I have surgery. She just doesn't understand chronic pain. I took 60 mg Oxycodone daily up until 2 weeks ago and it still wasn't enough to sir press my pain. I'm trusting The Lord and letting him decide. I have Tenncare and am out of work on workers compensation due to a lumbar spine injury at work. I hurt all the time!!! I get overwhelmed, anxious, scared, and nervous all the time. I hide (or rather try to hide) my emotions from my wife and our church family because I don't want to appear weak. Thanks for reading my ramblings. It's now 8:30 am and I didn't sleep lastnight. My wife is up now so I'm going to spend time with her. I wish everyone the best of comfort, hope, and help in your recovery.

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Hi. I know a Dr who will prescribe u the suboxone and Klonopins for nerves. Methadone ranges from 77-90 bucks a week depending on what u take, liquid which is cheaper or wafers which are called disk are higher. I was on Methadone for many years and you do NOT want to go to Methadone. The withdrawal is 100x worse than suboxone..

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Someone needs to mention to you all. Its the buprenorphine that constipated u not the naloxone

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What's your number (Knoxville writer). You could try to get prescribed generic Suboxone pills and they are much cheaper. I may be able to help you

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I am sorry to say but that is completely untrue that people can not inj. suboxone. Because ever since the suboxone companies switched from pill form to film form more addicts went back to inj'ing due to it being much easier and faster to turn the film into a liquid. You can just hold a film in between your fingers and you can feel it starting to melt away when it starts to get warm which allows addicts who inj. a much easier way to inj. a suboxone film rather than a pill form. Pharmaceutical companies made the biggest mistake by making suboxone a film form. They made themselves sound like i****s by saying that the reason for switching the tablets to films was for the better because the tablets were being abused too easily, and it would not be like that if patients were prescribed to the film form. ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. The film form is 20x easier for an addict to turn it into an inj. liquid so all they did was extremely help the patients who inj. suboxone. People who inj. a medication in an abusive manner are way more addicted to inj'ing a needle into their body than they are to just the drug. An addict on suboxone tablets or films can do awesome on suboxone and not even want to ever do another opiate again but the way they administer the opiates they were addicted to is going to be the way they take their suboxone until they can figure out a way to overcome the addiction of putting a pill up their nose or putting a needle in their body. The way people administer drugs is one of the biggest addictions they actually have.

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Buprenorphine IS an opiate. Naloxone (in Suboxone) is the ONLY additive that blocks opiate absorption. If you mix another OPIATE with the OPIATE of pure Subutex, you can indeed increase it! Ask your pharmacist.

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It doesn't work every time... When I started with my doc I explained I had been buying subutex/suboxone through other means and that suboxone gave me severe migraines and they make me nauseous every time... He told me straight up that he has heard all kinds of excuses to get subutex and he doesn't prescribe subutex to anyone but pregnant women... I had a pregnant friend call in trying to find a doc and he sent her to a methadone clinic, wtf... So yeah doesn't always work.

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IF you have come to the point that you are citing how you have "heard every excuse", etc., you are either 1) Not a Doctor or 2) should resign being so, because you have become clearly PREJUDICED with your patients and clearly "profile" before knowing the facts or performing a full accessment on the patient. Your comment alone is inaccurate (subutex contains NO narcan). So much for your two doctorates. Do patients a favor and refrain from advising them. You clearly know NOTHING addictions.

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I'm the same I'm trying my damdest to find a Dr that will put me on subutex if not I think I'm a go to the methadone clinic

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Because a lot of people abuse subutex, so doctors don't want to prescribe it anymore.

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I could've sworn that the RA patents only last 7 years, that's why people are waiting on generic strips to come soon, and there's Buenavil strips made to stick on the inside of your cheek so ur supposedly guaranteed to get more of your medicine as well as be able to talk and smoke while it dissolves, but I always wondered if they were able to do Buenavil strips because of how they're made a bit different which may have caused it to get its own patent. But as of 2018 an IV version of subutex is supposed to be coming out and lifetime maintenance patients are going to be the candidates for it as it has no naloxone in it; plus you're iv'ing it so if you're on 16mgs a day that's what you're going to get cause it prevents the "not getting all my medicine" syndrome and cuts back on street availability plus you only get a shot every 30 days - Over the course of the month your 16mgs a day (just as an example) will time release into your body. It's an interesting concept to say the least.

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I recommend getting off suboxone entirely. It’s a harsh reality but there is a better alternative and it’s organic too. It’s called Kratom. It rids the withdrawals 75/90%. You just need to take 9-10 grams a few times a day, or whenever you start feeling crappy. Take it on an empty stomach when you wake up, then a few hours later eat. It doesn’t taste great but mix it with a quarter cup of boiled water, that way it dissolves, then fill the cup up the rest with orange juice. It’s worth a try! Then you won’t have to deal with doctors anymore. It’s also very cheap if you buy it in bulk. Anyways hope you consider this alternative :)

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What the name of this low cost treatment center in wester North Carolina? I'm interested

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Don't say the miagraine
. you have to prove is for that the allergist that you are allergic to naloxone in the suboxone.
He will tell u to take and dissolve as usual just instead of swallowing, spit it out. I've tried.trust me. Find another dr. Tell him the subutex is cheaper and it will help u financially.

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Doe's anyone know the name of doctor who will prescribe subutex in the Austin, Tx. area? Thanks for any help, Sadie

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