Getting Prescriptions From 2 Different Doctors For Pain Meds But There Are Conditions (Page 2) (Top voted first)

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Well I just really need to know if what I am doing is considered doctor shopping. I fell at at department store and injured my knee. Now I have to go to the doctor the lawyer sent me to. He prescribes pain meds for me but the only thing he can treat is my knee. I started having back problems. My primary care doctor sent me to a different doctor and he also gives me meds. But the pharmacy said they would call the doctors and tell on me. So I went and ahead and told the doctors myself so that it would not look as bad. What do you think will happen to me? The pharmacy refused to give me back my prescription. Can they do that?

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Your lawyer is preparing your injury case your other doctor isn't. There is no reason to have 2 prescriptions that are opioid from two different doctors because you have only one body. Depending on dose the only issue I would see is if you need a higher dose because the new injury is causing a higher level of discomfort. Kind of stupid though going to the pharmacy with those scripts. You should be aware how strict things are since the law changed, which is bulls***.

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The DEA doesn't have patients names, unless they are being prosecuted on the federal level for illegal activities involving drugs. And even then, the names aren't released to drs or pharmacists. The place the drs and pharmacists get the info regarding the prescriptions you've gotten filled, the dr, date, etc is from your State Prescription Monitoring Program. I guess dr and pharmacists figure everyone is afraid of the DEA, so they say thats where the got the info.

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Prescriptions don't necessarily expire after 21 days. I've filled many prescriptions that were written with the understanding that they won't be filled for 60-90 days. I was told by my pharmacist that they were good for six months. This may indeed vary from state to state so it's best to ask a pharmacist. When one person states that prescriptions expire after 21 days and it's not necessarily true, they may cause someone to dispose of a needed prescription unnecessarily. It's important to have the facts straight before giving advice.

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Subutex is a narcotic. Exactly why when I go to the Dr's With pain I am F***ed. People like you run around with scripts falling out of you'r pocket. One Dr. treats your pain not frickin two. Cut the bulls***. You can't take someones suboxone (Subutex) as a med for depression. Hope he cuts you off.

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P450, you aren't an Administrator or Moderator on MedsChat. You have no more authority on this site than others members. The degrees you say you have give you no more authority at MedsChat that others. There is no reason for MedsChat to verify your credentials because you have no site responsibility here. There is a libality issue that MedsChat must consider.

There are many members here with degrees, knowledge and experience from working in certain fields that they use to help others. But they don't wear them like a badge. They realize that on a public internet forum it is up to each reader the weight they give replies. There is important information that is missing in a setting like this that can have an impact on correct answers. But that information isn't appropriate for a public internet forum.

I as well as others here prefer to spend our time trying to help other instead of trying to convince others how smart we are by constantly talking about ourselves and our accomplishments.

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Hello Lish, you mean like if someone, a patient who sees a physician each month who writes for a thirty day supply of narcotics, were to undergo dental work, get handed a bunch of paperwork with a script in there somewhere for 10 oxycodone but not realize she'd accepted the script in the first place? If you signed a contract with your pain manager or are seeing a pain specialist, my advice would be to physically take the script back to the dental office & return it to the dr. If not the dr, the office manager or his nurse. Get the person's name you returned it to. Very likely if the script isn't filled or attempted to it'd be ok but these days, if someone has a dr who takes care of their chronic pain with opioids on a monthly basis, DO NOT SCREW UP by attempting to fill a script from a second dr.

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Two doctors equals 5 years. Your doing what I tell my son
If you have to think twice about it then DON'T DO IT
It show that you know the the answer, you just want someone to say go ahead no problem.
It is a problem I'll bet you even tried to have your insurance pay
PLEASE DONT GO THERE

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I live in So. Cal. I went to my pain dr last week and he showed me a read out of 1precsription(Valium and 2nd prescription for from mr primary care dr and one from him. He just casually asked me which dr I would like to use and I said him. He subscribes the klonopin and subutex I take My primary care dr subscribes any other meds I may need. He said this report is from the DEA and I had to make a decision on which dr. Of course I choose pAin dr. Here's my deliama I have 1 refill left on the Valium. Do you know if the pharmacy also gets this report. I want to fill last refill but am scared don't wants go to jail

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With the laws regarding patient privacy, there is nothing you can do from the standpoint of the medical community. Maybe your sister should talk to a counselor and what she may need to do.

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Your actually not 100% right you can see as many doctors as you want. What you can not do is accept narcotic pain killers from both and fill both. But as the first person posted, if your being treated for knee pain the pain killers will help with the back pain. Opiates will always work on masking the pain. Obviously it will not always relieve 100% of the pain. But they work. Telling your doctor's was the right move. But usually you sign a paper before seeing the DR. stating you will not share your scripts or get multiple opiod medications from another DR.so saying you didn't know is a lame excuse. You more than likely will not get in trouble, they will just ask you to get a discharge paper from the other DR.

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It don't matter, they will see pain meds from two diff drs. There's no reason to fill the tabs if you have percs. You'll have to wait 27 days before filling another pain med from a different dr. You can only fill meds from one pain dr. Only reason I asked what state is because MD you could get away with it, they have no system to track your scripts, it's the only state left, trust me I know. DO NOT GET YOUR REFILL IF YOU'VE ALREADY FILLED FROM A DIFFERENT DR. YOU WILL LOSE ALLMEDS AND DR. OIT AIN'T WORTH IT BROTHER.

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iknowitsucks, state laws control when rxs expire. You need to find out exactly what you state laws says..

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Your welcome, this BL guy has wrong information, every state has dr shopping laws, you are not allowed to obtain pain meds or any narcotic of the same kind from more than one dr. Doesn't matter if you get oxy in florida and then go to NYC and get the same script, still Dr shopping. If you try to fill a script less than 28 days from the time you filled the Same script, they will call your drs. Red flag you, by law they HAVE to report you to the DEA or the pharmacy will have to pay a huge fine, they will call old drs and anywhere else you have filled narcotics. I have been caught before, but luckily have had a long standing relationship with the pharmacists and they did not report me. My advice is this...DO NOT SEE MULTIPLE DRS WITH OUT YOUR PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR REFERRING YOU THERE.DO NOT FILL ANY NARCOTIC PRESCRIPTIONS OF THE SAME MEDICATION BEFORE 27 /28 DAYS, AND DEFF DO NOT SEE MULTIPLE PAIN MANAGEMENT DOCTORS. EVEN THE DOCTORS CAN SEE YOUR PRESCRIPTION HISTORY NOW AND LOOK IT UP BEFORE THEY EVEN WRITE THE SCRIPTS.

I'm not proud of this but my cat dr shopped for five years, my cat had a bad addiction because a dr started my cat with 300 roxi 30s 120 xanax 120 dilaudid 8s and 240 methadone 10s with no previous prescription or pain management history.my car started seeing 2 drs first and third week and 3drs second and fourth week of the month. Trust me my cat knows almost everything about dr shopping and how these things work. My cat has been off ALL meds for over two years now. So my cat is knowledgeable and not some wack job junkie. Any more questions ..I'll gladly help.

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Sir..you can not obtain the same narcotic medication from two different drs and fill them both with in 28 days in any state. That was the original post.

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another posting directed at me P. sorry again for the late response but all information you just shared, where did you get it? and you believe it all? sometimes family members help other family members out because they love them, it happens all the time, all across the world, dont you know that? Geeze, Im sorry youve never had that experience but believe me, its real. i dont know anything about your diagnosis, but clearly you wear it as a badge, look at your name for goodness sakes, and that sense of entitlement that makes you think you can just talk to people like that, well that needs to stop because you give people with pain a bad name

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What makes you so worried cops WILL turn up at your door? Do you know someone arrested &/or jailed due to receiving narcotic pain medication from their VA doc plus a civilian pain management doc? And only once or twice? I'm not a doctor or nurse, however I was dx with a syndrome which causes chronic intractable pain more than 25 years ago. I've been under care of pain management specialists over 20 years. I've talked to hundreds of people who've been prescribed narcotics for half their lives. I can't tell you how many folks I've talked with who've done a heck of a lot worse things than accepting 1 or 2 scripts from a 2nd doctor & never have I ever had someone tell me they were visited by the local cops or DEA/FDA/CDC, Homeland Security, CIA or FBI. I mean, if it happens I'm pretty sure it would involve stolen prescription pads. Real crimes. If any of my counter parts here have any other experience please speak up.

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Posters,

There is unnecessary government intervention on all pain patients throughout the U.S. I have written on this topic and post regularly to the trending post 'where can I get pain medication' for many stop there first and I have given support to all with intractable pain since I was injured many years ago.

The V.A. is under serious scrutiny as it stands. There are many not few not receiving proper medical care or appointments in a timely manner. But when it comes to their opioid contracts several physicians took years to leave the system who were writing too many opioids to too many Veterans.

All being said BL insults many on any given day and is neither a licensed health care professional or even a pain patient. If he or she was they would have told their story a long time ago when questioned by regulars posting here. Please ignore these posts and move on to someone who may care enough to give you sound advice.

The V.A. should realize an acute episode when a patient sees the dentist for an abscess or an extraction will REQUIRE above the normal baseline opioid dosage. That means what handles your chronic and intractable pain will need extra, or a different type of opioid to kill that pain. Further they cannot surmise when handed a scrip that a patient is a physician or nurse knowing for example that it is the same opioid written and not an antibiotic for example. Shame on anyone leading this poster to the depths of hell on this post!

I would though be up front on this matter to relieve your anxiety. I do not think the FEDS will beat at your door but the government has no right under our Constitution to be controlling physicians which they are currently. This will pass as does Odumma. But we have a few long years to with hold and hang until we are back to proper opioid management for IP.

Best of luck to you soldier keep us posted!

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Sgt,

Be adamant that you went to the pain specialist for inj's. only--for all you know he may have prescribed the Oxycontin in a different strength, or amount taken; for example you may have been on 30 mg. TID and he wrote 80 mg. QID. If that is the case you have a right to the different prescription, and with the VA sending out medications in a six month time frame they are backed up on data paperwork too!

I would be frank and tell the VA doctor you wanted inj's. not available in his practice and you told the physician you were on PM with the VA. When he wrote a prescription you did not check it until you went to the pharmacy period.

I believe you will be ok my friend hang tight. This is no time in America to lose your pain specialist, keep them until we have two years without Oduma and pain management restores to scientific basis.

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you need to get control of your medications. Only you know if you're using the medication for recitation, pain or a combination of both. If its for recitation. You can get on a maintenance program by admitting you are depend physically & psychological aka addicted. No judgments here. Please get help either way.If you pain is greater than what any one doctor has perscribed then you need to tell the doctor of choice (one doctor only for pain medication. ) it will catch up with you its not if but when. If you can do with out the pain medication for pain and you want control of your life back reduce your dosage of meds by 10 percent every 3 to 6 days you can do it faster by droping your dosage 10 percent every day. Its better to get help than be blind sided when a doctor or more likely all 3 say sorry I can no longer prescribe for you or have one rapidly reduce your dosage. Its better to have control of your body and mind .No matter how well meaning the doctor its better to take care of you opiate use of yourself. I hope this help's. There are several options. Be well.C Chat

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Needtoknow, it is up to the dr that is writting your pain meds how he deals with this situation. A pharmacist filling a prescription and/or an insurance company paying for it does not mean that your dr won't have a problem with it. If you are given a prescription by your regular dr for pain and you are suppose to take it every day and it is for a 30 day period, you should not be taking two prescriptions of pain meds by two different drs. SInce your dr is not a pain management dr, he may refer you to one.

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