Getting Prescriptions From 2 Different Doctors For Pain Meds But There Are Conditions (Page 15)

Well I just really need to know if what I am doing is considered doctor shopping. I fell at at department store and injured my knee. Now I have to go to the doctor the lawyer sent me to. He prescribes pain meds for me but the only thing he can treat is my knee. I started having back problems. My primary care doctor sent me to a different doctor and he also gives me meds. But the pharmacy said they would call the doctors and tell on me. So I went and ahead and told the doctors myself so that it would not look as bad. What do you think will happen to me? The pharmacy refused to give me back my prescription. Can they do that?

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And your medical credentials are exactly WHAT and obtained exactly WHERE? Ditto for your LICENSE(S). If I'm hesitant about making a decision for a patient it's because I know all about the drug, the benefit to risk ratio, the interaction and adverse effect profile. That's why I went to medical school and continued on and earned PhD in Pharmacology. I'm an animal lover, too, but it's my MD, my License to Practice, a Sate CSR and my Fed. DEA Registration No, that gives me the right to make professional therapeutic decisions. Yours was thoughtless and senseless. There's a lot more to controlling interactions than the simplicity with which you responded. That's irresponsible and dangerous.

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Merrick 17 You really need to call your doctor before you start treating yourself for withdrawal symptoms. First of all your doctor needs to know you are going into withdrawal. Second you need to ask about any over the counter or self treatments that you are thinking about trying. In fact if you are back in town you should do everything you can do to get a appointment so it can be in your records if there are any long term health problems fro m this. By cutting your medications after seeing another doctor it almost sound like she wants to teach you a lesson. In the past 20 years of taking pain medications on and off I never just had my medication just cut in half if I have been on the medication (not just opiate medication either) for over a period of several months.

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AS usual, sound advice. You don't HAVE to be a licensed healthcare professional to give good advice here

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I know someone that lives in oklahoma, but is seeing 2 doctors in Arkansas and receives oxycodone and morphine?

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tabby, I'm curious have you seen the actual prescription bottles from these two drs ? I don't believe it because Arkansas and Oklahoma have their State Prescription Monitoring Programs Database connected. Pharmacists and drs in Arkansas and Oklahoma can see what prescriptions this person has had filled along with other prescription info. But, it is possible that this person is getting both prescriptions from the same dr.

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BULLS*** Don't listen to those a**holes. It is NOT dr shopping! Your attorney referred you and you will be ok, just stick to one dr with pain pills from now on! Whoever said you are going to prison for 20 years is an a**hole.

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I'd let a licensed CRIMINAL attorney answer that question. Bet the attorney in question here never litigated serious charges in a Supreme or Appellate Court? My sister is a former Executive ADA and is an excellent criminal defense attorney. Do you know how many LICENSED ATTORNEYS she defends at top-dollar rates every year Or how many cases she won't dirty her reputation by taking? ? Simply because someone's a "lawyer" doesn't mean he know the law governing a particular matter,

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You can look up the defination of Doctor Shopping in your state. As a general rule it is when a person goes to more than one dr for the purpose of obtaining controlled substances. If you went to dr a and got pain med for a few weeks or a few months and then you change drs and start seeing dr b AND you Do Not get pain meds from dr a again or another dr and only get pain meds from dr b, that isn't considered dr shopping. A person changing drs is Not considered Doctor Shopping.

With the Prescription Monitoring Programs in each state now, it is almost impossible to Doctor Shop and get away with it. Most, if not all state require a dr to look a patient up in the states PMP database before writting them a pain med rx and pharmacist have to also check the same database before filling a rx.

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I WENT TO TWO DIFFERENT DOCTORS AND RECEVED PHENTERMINE WITHIN ABOUT 4 DAYS OF EACH OTHER. I FILLED THE FIRST PRESCRIPTION AT A PHARMACY I NEVER USE. HOWEVER, I HAVE NOT EVEN ATTEMPTED TO FILL THE SECOND PRESCRIPTION. I WAS GOING TO WAIT 30 DAYS UNTILL THE FIRST PTRESCRIPTION RUNS OUT. MY PRIMARY DOCTOR (WHO GAVE ME THE SEOND PRESCRIPTION) CALLED ME TODAY (HIS NURSE CALLED ME) AND SAID SHE WANTED ME TO CALL BACK ABOUT ONE OF MY MEDICATIONS. I HAVE NOT CALLED BACK YET BUT I AM WORRIED. I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF FILLING THE SCOND PRESCRIPTION UNTIL 30 DAYS WHEN THE OTHER RUNS OUT. I JUST WANTED TO GET A PRESCRIPTION FROM MY PRIMARY DOCTOR SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER DOCTOR WHOM I DO NOT CARE FOR. ANY ADVICE? I HAVE NOT CALLED THE NURSE BACK YET. WILL CALL HER TOMORROW TO SEE WHAT IS UP.

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NEED ADVICE, it is possible that your dr just found out about the other prescription and the nurse is calling you to tell you to bring the prescription back in. If that is what the call is about, you will have to take the prescription back to them. Even though Phentermine is not a Schedule II drug, because it can be addicting, it is not a good idea to get two prescription from two different drs. It is highly likely that the other dr knows that you got another prescription for Phentermine from another dr. So you need to be prepared for him to not give you another prescription for it. You also need to be prepared for the dr that called you to not give you another prescription for it. Depending on the Prescription Monitoring Program Laws in your state, you may not be able to get another dr to write you a prescription for it period. If the PMP in your state requires Schedule III and IV drugs to be reported, any dr that you see will know that you got two prescriptions for it from two different drs within 4 days.

Even if the dr wants to talk to you about something else, you won't be able to get the other prescription filled until a day or two before the one you have now runs out. It doesn't matter if you've neven been to the pharmacy or if you pay cash.

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I just talked to a pharmacist about this, and he said as long as both doctors know about it then it will be ok, however, for example I'm on 30mg of Oxycodone for a rare bone Tumor in my iliac crest pelvic bone, and it's the only thing that works. I had knee surgery 2 weeks ago, and my surgeon prescribed only 50 of the 5mg hydrocodone (norco) for breakthrough pain. My regular pain dr asked me about it and I explained it to him just as I have explained to my knee surgeon why I get oxycodone. They both know and the pharmacy said as long as they both know it's ok. It becomes illegal if I have several different doctors for oxycodone and several for norcos! As long as it makes sense on why, then it's ok, but the catch is you can't continue with both on the breakthrough pain meds too! So before you say you will get arrested, you need to get facts and ask! The pharmacist said he was glad I told him so he can put it in their notes as to why I get both! Besides, 5mg norco sucks anyway so I'm considering taking them back to the pharmacy just so I don't get one dr mad about it and not get any meds. I'm trying to do the right thing and actually not over use or abuse these drugs! People that dr shop do give people a bad name and make it hard for all of us who actually are in a lot of pain!

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Jay , It is unusual for a pain dr to accept another dr prescribing pain meds to a patient they are also prescribing pain meds to. But, as long as each dr is aware of what the other one is prescribing you and why, you should be ok. Saying someone will be arrested for getting two pain meds from two different drs is somewhat of a broad statement. BUT, it depends on the circumstances and the evidence in your medical records. It is Always best to talk to your pain dr Before getting a pain prescription filled from another dr. There are countless pain patients that have lost their pain management and can't find another dr because they thought that telling the dr writting the prescription they were in pain management or that they had signed a contract was all that was needed to protect them. Drs check the state Prescription Monitoring Program in their state each time before prescribing pain meds to see if the patient has been prescribed pain meds by any other dr. If you've gotten a pain med prescription filled, it will be in that database.

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No, I don't think you will have a problem at the pain medicine doctor, or the pharmacy. Now, if you were continuing to go to both docs for pain meds, yes. Your primary, it sounds like was unable to help you enough with your pain and referred you to pain mgmt. So, be sure to tell the pain mgmt doc that the other med didn't really help. I don't think I would say you took all of them already.

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How does it work when you have been on Norco for quite awhile for a stroke which led to clots and an implosion in my corioted brain area, and got hurt at work. I've been taking oxy, Dr said OK at the beginning, now says he does not remember that and I have been taking U/A's every couple of months for three years. Now he says I have to choose which meds I want to continue taking and from whom. I just want to know what are my rights and how can I continue with both?

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Styx, are you saying 2 different drs are prescribing the opioids?

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Yes, one (Norco ),for migraine headaches and other, and oxy for my injury, Norco not taken everyday

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Stix , you won't be able to continue going to two different drs and getting two different pain meds. You also won't find a dr that will prescribe you Norco and Oxycontin. It sounds like you need a Pain Management dr that can handle your pain for your different issues. Frankly, I'm surprised that you've been able to continue with two drs prescribing you Norco and Oxycontin this long.

A pain dr will want you to sign a pain contract and do random drug tests. You will have to agree to only have that dr treat your pain. That means if you get a pain prescription from any other dr for any other reason without talking to you pain dr first and him oking it, that your pain dr will dismiss you and you will find it difficult if not impossible to find a dr that will prescribe you anything for pain.

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Thanks for the reply. I have been taking U/A's for 3 years and the pain mgt Dr knew of it, Now it's a problem, he said he does not remember that. How tacky for a Dr to tell a patient that after 3 years. I agreed to his terms, cause I had no Time to make a decision, and now I am at a loss for pain meds cause he did not increase mine to compensate not taking the other. That is maybe my main issue, well that and the very unprofessional way it was handled. So if I continue with what I was doing who reports what to who? If I stop taking the Norco a week prior to my appointment how would he know if it does not come up in a U/A?

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sti , each state has a Prescription Monitoring Program. Every person that get a Schedule II drug, as well as others, is listed in that database. Drs have access to it and so do pharmacists among others. Any dr that you see and all pharmacists can look you up in that database and see what Schedule II prescriptions you have gotten filled, who wrote them, when, what they were for, how many, how long they were suppose to last, etc. So you can't hide it. Your dr should take better notes and read them. But, that doesn't matter because your dr can stop giving you any pain meds if he chooses to and there in nothng that you can do about it. Even if you change drs, once a dr looks you up in the PMP database and sees that you've been getting two different pain meds from two different drs, it is highly doubtful that they will prescribe you anything for pain. Basically what you have been doing is called Doctor Shopping and it is against the law. Doctor shopping is when a person goes to two or more drs for the sole purpose of obtaining narcotics. A new dr will also want a copy of your medical records. It would be a good idea for you to get copies of your medical records from both of these drs so you can read exactly what they have written down.

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Wow, that is not what I was doing, shopping, ,,I was on 1 before the other like years before whatever.

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