Generic Subutex/buprenorphine - Which Manufacturer Do You Prefer? (Page 5)

Hello All,

I recently just got changed from suboxone to subutex due to a pretty bad allergic reaction to the naloxone in the suboxone. Basically my question for everyone is which generic do you guys prefer? My pharmacist can order any kind for me so at the moment I just got the Roxanne ones 8mg - they are white round tablets. This is my first day using and am already noticing my migraines are starting to subside, not fully, but starting to. So yeah if anyone has any suggestions please let me know all the ups and downs that you guys have been experiencing, thanks!

Good luck to one and all!

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Seems like you are using it for the wrong reasons so of course it's not going to work for u because u already have it in ur mind that it doesn't work suboxone is not for pain it's for people to get clean and not have to go through the horrible withdrawals of opiates I've done suboxone films suboxone tabs subutex pills and they all work about the same for me bc I use them for what they are made for good luck seems like ur trying to seek out another drug bc of ur addiction to me

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I GOT SWITCHED TODAY TO SUBUTEX DUE TO SWELLING IN MY LEGS GOT SCRIPT OF 60 PILLS FOR $2 A PILL SO 120 FOR MONTH I USED TO PAY 8$ FOR SUB STRIP BRAND.I HOPE THIS WILL SOLVE MY PROBS.

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For me, the Actavis has the best generic suboxone.. I like them better than the regular suboxone strips, and 3x as good as any of the other generics.. Subutex makes me feel like garbage, the same way I feel on methadone.. The orange generics are my least favorite.. They have a more 'speedy' feel to me, and I don't like that..

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I am in ATL.GA.all CVS carry Roxane brand.good luck.

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I BEEN CLEAN FOR 3 YEARS,BUT ALLWAYS HAD PROBLEMS WITH MY ANKLES SWELLING.I GOT SUBUTEX AND 4 DAYS LATER IT WENT AWAY.I TRIED MYLAN THEY ARE TRASH!I TRIED ACTIVIS THOSE ARE BETTER BUT ALSO NOT SO GOOD,AND I TRIED HI TECH SMALL WITH 8 AND ARROW ON ONE SIDE THISE ARE THE BEST FOR ME I FEEL EM LIKE I USED TO FEEL STRIPS BRAND NAME.SO I GO WITH HI TECH.AND I AM NOT SEEKING ANYTHING BUDDY,I ACCEPTED THAT AM AN ADDICT AND I NEED HELP,AND IF I HAVE TO TAKE MEDS ALL OF MY LIFE I WILL! I hate when people say you drug seeking! you like those ass pharmacists at wallgreens

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Can someone please tell me if I have to be dirty for my first visit at the suboxen clinic

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Hi, cucupuffs, you're the first person I've seen that's had a similar reaction to Suboxone that I have. First, I have Bipolar 2 Disorder and more recently a very severe case of Panic Disorder. The PD is slightly the worst problem. Long story short. I used to take massive amounts of Vicodin because I was self-medicating for (at the time an unknown Bipolar 2 Disorder, yet to be diagnosed) BPD. I took it for about 7 years. I went off finally and started Suboxone and switched to Subutex. I took that for about 4 years and I decided I wanted to just stop. Well, I went off and on it a few times, but the last time I went off of it was because it started not working as well. I'd get body aches and pains, my bones would hurt. It felt like withdrawal symptoms. I was taking a pretty low dose at the time, 2.5 mg a day and everyone was saying I'm not taking enough. That seemed to make it worse, so I went back down and it got better for a while. Then, I started having some really weird stuff happening to me. I started getting a heaviness in my chest and trouble breathing. I was having it pretty much all the time. One day, I took a little more than usual, occasionally I'd do that if I was up longer. Also, it's important to know that the way I have always taken Subutex or Suboxone (the short time I was on it) is I use a pill cutter and break it into quarters. At the time I was prescribed down to 2 mg a day, so, just one pill. Before when I was taking 1 1/2 pills a day, that was more than enough, then I started getting those withdrawal like symptoms you had and that's when he dropped it down. So, I break up the Subutex into 4 quarters and take 1/4 at a time, so I started taking 1/4 every 4 hours or so, sometimes earlier, sometimes later. So, that night I started not feeling so hot. I was already not feeling awesome because it seemed like it was not working as well. Anyway, I was probably taking a 5th dose, so I had taken a pill and a 1/4 total, so actually .25 mg over what I usually take. I started feeling nauseous and tired and lethargic. I had some Zofran. I used to take with the Suboxone because it would make me nauseous. So I took that, helped a little, but it felt like I basically took too much medication. So, the next day I got up and I took 1/4 and immediately wasn't feeling good and started getting a panicky sensation. About 4 hours later, I took another (STUPID), but it was only my 2nd dose, remember I'm only taking 1/4 of a pill at a time. When I say another dose, I mean 1/4 of a pill. After the 2nd dose, I was in a full blown panic feeling very sick. I remember taking a nap and feeling better later, but when I took a 3rd dose, it started coming back again, so I only took 3 doses.

It got better, but I was still having a problem with aches and pains and it felt like it wasn't working as well. I went off the Sub cold turkey. It wasn't that bad at all....weird. I think I was hypo-manic at the time (which is rare for me) and that's why I was able to go CT. So, the breathing problems went away along with the panic attacks. But I was taking the Subutex to regulate my BPD. I've taken almost all the antidepressants and mood stabilizers and none of them really help. So Subutex really helped me. So I was fairly depressed and went back on the Sub. As soon as I did, I felt 1000% better for a couple weeks, but at the same time, that heaviness in my chest came back too. Got my heart checked out, it was fine.

So, FF about a year and I was going through the same thing, but this time I was only taking 1.75 mg a day. I was prescribed 2 mg pill a day, and still cutting it into quarters, but only 3 doses a day. Then I went to Vegas and this was as bad as my worst time in my life. It equaled when my BP first hit. I was taking a low dose of Xanax 0.25 mg, which did nothing. I took a dose of my Sub and immediately got sick and felt panicked and so took a Xanax, it seemed to make things worse. I forgot to say that about 6 months to a year before that, they put me on blood pressure meds. I was taking Propranolol. Ironically, I found that Propranolol had the best side effect a drug could have. It's a beta blocker and so it helped my panic attacks the best, but sometimes it didn't help much at all, but still a little. So long story short, for 3 days we were down there and I only took 2 doses of Subutex, so a total of half a 2 mg pill. I slept the whole time, just took sleeping tablets to try to sleep, which was hard because I had bad panic attacks. I would not only feel like I was going to die, but I felt like I wasn't getting any air and had to breathe out of my mouth. You're probably thinking, that's not soo bad, but the thing is, the PA's I was having didn't last minutes or hours, but it lasted 3 days and I'm not exaggerating in the least about that. There were periods where the panic and breathing were better, but on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being the best or least amount of panic or pain, I got down to no less than a 5. Most of the time it was around an 8. Yeah, I thought for sure I was going to have to go the ER.

Well, it got better, but then worse again but when it was bad, my PA's lasted as long as a week! So I asked my primary doctor to give me a higher dosage of Xanax, thinking that might help. Well, it did, combined with Propranolol. So, I take the Subutex for my BPD, to keep my Dopamine levels up and I take the Xanax to counteract the Subutex side effects and also the Propranolol to counteract the panic attacks.

The Panic Disorder is much better, but if I change my routine, or if I go out of town or anything that triggers a panic attack, then it gets worse, but still not as bad as Vegas. I had quite a few more attacks like Vegas, went to the ER a few times only to be released and they found nothing. What I don't understand is, I took Subutex for years with no problems and then almost overnight, it suddenly doesn't work. I figured out, the "high blood pressure" was being caused by the extreme amount of stress I was under. At my higher, my BP was 175/140. My Diastolic, the bottom number was really high.

So, now I'm wondering if at some point they switched brands on me and all this is because I was reacting to a different companies filler. I saw that because my last refill a couple weeks ago came with two manufacturers, Mylan (which I've been taking for as long as I can remember) and the new one Hi-tech/Akorn. I remember thinking, this is great, maybe I'll feel better, but I remember taking a dose of the new ones and feeling similar to what I felt like with the Suboxone. I felt sick and it felt like I took something that was blocking the Subutex. I thought, maybe it's a fluke and tried it again after a few days and it did the same thing.

Has anything like what I've experienced happen to you? Any panic attacks like I'm describing and/or breathing problems?

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Is this brand u like small like a birth control pill?

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They need to STOP with HiTech being the ONLY manufacturer of buprenorphone. They are small, and tiny. They get lost in your mouth and that's exactly what happens EVERY time. Can someone please tell me what can I do? Every pharmacy I've called said they can ONLY get them from HiTech. They're awful. I take 8mg twice per day, but its like I'm taking NOTHING now with this HiTech manufacturer. Please, does anyone know what I can do?

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Try Walgreens or a local pharmacy. If you can use an Rx Savings Card, Walgreens, Walmart, CVS and Target must take the card. It will make it cheaper. You'll probably pay about $240 for a script of 60 but think of how much you were paying for your other stuff before. I don't know what state you live in but as far as I know it is against the law to leave someone in any kind of pain. Good luck.

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The Roxanne labs are what I've been taking for almost 4yrs. To me they are the best. They say 54 411 and are white and round. The small ones and the new peach one absolutely suck! However there is another company/manufacturer Mylan who's subutex looks exactly like the Roxanne ones except they say M924. I recently had to switch pharmacies and after 4yrs of taking the 54s I was worried because if you've been taking a version of subutex for a long time as I have the binders/fillers that each company uses are different so I was afraid they wouldn't work or my buddy could have an adverse affect to one of the fillers in the Ms. However that is not the case, luckily the 54411 by Roxanne and the M924s are pretty much the same-with no reported or altered feeling from the medication. NOTE IF ANYONE TELLS YOU IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER THEY MUST HAVE 8MG OF BUPH. THEY ARE FULL OF IT AND DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MEDICATION AND THE FILLERS USED! THEY CAN HAVE DIFFERENT EFFECTS ON YOUR BODY! My advice is try to get the 54s, as they seem to be the best and is still what I take. Luckily the one time I got the Ms is because they were on back order supply but if you get the Ms they are just as good! Especially if you take them the RIGHT WAY. Others who take the medication in other ways are stupid and don't realize what they are doing to their veins, nose, you get the picture. So in conclusion stick with the 54s or Ms, you'll be fine and take them under your tongue, don't be an ***** like so many others. THEY ACTUALLY WORK BETTER WHEN TAKEN PROPERLY!

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Marsh fills orange oval shape subutex. There are dozens of manufacters of subutex now. Do your research on google eventually u will find what u are looking for

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I think it depends on your intentions of the drug. I've been on bupe for ten or more years and i have tried numerous kinds. There are dozens of manufacturers now as opposed to 5 years ago. But lets start with what i think the average person prefers, which would definitely be 54-411. They are generic brand but less expensive and they're just as good as the name brand. For me though, i prefer the half moon subutex (not suboxone) these are football shaped. Suboxone half moons are round. The reason i like these is because they are bigger than any other subutex and for me it's easier to take less. It just works for me because i'm stepping down. I just want to be off of them. But, ultimately....if you want the best bang for your buck at the pharmacy, 54-411s by a long shot. If you are a newby on the bupe? It really doesn't matter what kind. I would encourage not getting 54-411s if you're a newby. They are more addictive and withdrawals are ridiculous.

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I like Roxanne & Mylan brand the best. The potency is good with both of these.

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I have been on sub for four years now. For the first 3 1/2 years, I personally found the Roxane 54 411's to be a godsend. I tried suboxone, but was hypersensitive to it plus the taste makes me vomit! I'm gagging just thinking about it! Anyways...but for the last five or six months I have grown very fond of the Actavis 153 w/ half moon, orange sub. I had to switch pharmacies due to me moving. My question to everyone is what do I have to do to get these things as cheap as I can?? My doc gives me fifteen every ten days. My insurance will only pay for fifteen every ninety days. So its mostly an out-of-pocket expense for me. I go through Walgreens. IDK if its the brand or just Walgreens being higher, but now I have to pay eighty dollars and some change every ten days! Its over double what I used to pay. Can anyone give me some answers? What does everyone else pay at their pharmacies?? Thank you guys...

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Yes Cathy I live in steub,Ohio u have very few options .I have to go to Pittsburgh to get mine filled .And they are hard to find there too!Its now been yrs since you posted it but it hasn't gotten better.

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I am a subutex veteran and I got to say I don't agree with your statement its not 100 .

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You are exactly right bro!! The facts are as you stated in ur post.

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No TEVA in subutex anymore just suboxone. Where I live there's a place u go every 2 weeks its 150 and you go right next door and they fill them. ALWAYS have them. But if you don't go there they won't fill an outside script.

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What is going on? Every pharmacy is saying they don't have the Roxanne subutex anymore and only generic. I cannot take generic, they are horrible and weak. How come this wasn't told to us people who need this medicine? Now we have to find out the day our prescription runs out. Where is the news about this?

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