Generic Buprenorphine 54 411 Vs M 924 (Page 4)

I've been going to a clinic for almost a year now and each time I get prescribed 8mg Subutex. When I would fill my prescription I would receive 54 411 white tablets. Today when I picked it up I got M 924 white tablets. The only difference I've found is the manufacturer. The manufacturer for the 54 411 is ROXANE and for the M 924 is MYLAN. Are they pretty much the same pill just different imprint/manufacturer?

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i agree, the ROXANNE product seems to do a much better job than the Mylan, these dont seem to work at all

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You get off then by being in a treatment program and working with your doctor to slowly wean down as you are able/comfortable to do so no you can't just stop but with the right mix of counseling and Dr vists you can eventually get off them and be safe about it and not relapse.

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Lots of people just find a dealer and take H like everybody else. I'm obviously joking, although your pain would melt away in about fifteen seconds. That's the point. That's why this whole problem exists in the first place. Because heroin does what it's supposed to do, it takes the pain away - BOTH physical pain as well as mental pain such as sad thoughts, depression, anxiety, or old memories that still burn hot and painful. That's why people do it ... to take their pain away.

NOW as we all know this never lasts and always ends in disaster but IMO it's not even the heroin that's ever been the problem. At least personally, if I had, which was most of the time, I could get more done and be happier doing it than I ever could have even as a normal person that I myself even once was. The problem isn't the H, it is the LACK of the H that's the issue - but anyway dunno why I'm writing this part, just bored I guess.

So onto your conundrum, I've thought about answer for you from every angle I could. Considered every available and REALISTIC option available to someone in your position. The only answer for you is methadone maintenance. Unlike buprenorphine which really has nothing to do with actual plain relief...(at least not much and especially not for someone like you)...as well as 10mg percocets, even if it was a few times a day, probably wouldn't do much except maybe like a 17% decrease in pain for about 57 seconds a few times a day.

I'm someone who has fallen into the vicious setup of my generation that is opiate addiction, which is another topic. It all comes down to money. You might be surprised, u might not, but opiates are where the $$ is at in so many ways from the obvious to the ones you haven't or couldn't consider. K, getting off topic, jeez I might be coming of as an a-hole, it's just this particular epidemic has ravaged almost everyone I know.

So in conclusion I gave it a lot of thought and in the world we live in, sad as it may be, nothing you can do. The beauty of it is you aren't an addict, you are a straight up citizen, not an addict. So although the dose they start you at may note do much, the funny thing with methadone is it's one of those weird drugs where they somehow are just allowed to keep raising it. Simply say it's not working and they will always raise it up every time you go for your visit.. Every f***in time. And trust and believe girl that at some point the number will be reached where u ain't gonna feel pain. It'll even last when u wake up, you'll be making pancakes for hubby before he goes and plays with his plants.

Anyway sorry for the typos I am seriously tired right now and refuse to go back and fix. But yeah, I know that's not an answer u want to hear or one you will probably even consider to the stigma. But as someone who knows the whole dealio and realistic if u want actual pain relief to fix your life that's your only real answer in today's society. S****y, I know, but they'll give u enough for it eventually where you won't hurt. Oh yeah, and since you're a citizen and not a street abuser, u won't have to be in the clinic line every morning, they'll just give you take homes. Anyway, good luck, but I'm not seeing any other way, and if u already did the bupe thing, then hey - do something that'll work hun...

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Hey...so the m924 taste totally diff and worse?? I tried. The m924 and it taste totally diff and really bad ..

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They are the same. Some pharmacies changed cause they were cheaper to buy than the 54/411. That's all.

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Hello Guys, I'm new to this page so bare with me! I've been on suboxone \ subutext for about a little over a year now. Recently was switched from the sub strips to the small white round 8mg tabs subutex, I'm not quiet sure which brand they were but I did like them much better then the suboxone strips!! 4 years ago I got heavily into Percocets taking about 10 30 mg pills a day, ruined my life!! I had to get off these horrible but yet so amazing drug, So I talked to my doc and 3 years later I'm in this crazy medicated world we all know too well, SUBOXONE. I struggle day to day, in fear that this Med controls my life and I'm never going to be able to get off if it and be who I once was. I miss the old me, I miss the fun and patient, calm, loving, Amanda I use to know??. I mean I'm not depressed, I still enjoy life and live day to day doing what needs to be done, I just find my self reacting differently towards a lot stuff! I have 0 patience and get overwhelmed start panicking whenever I'm around people or trying to do a chore and get side tracked so easily.. Dose this happen to anyone else's? Also I'm still dealing with my addictions, I'm not doing Percs anymore but a couple times a week I find my self taking more of my subutex than prescribed, and taking them like I would take my percs. I hate it!! Now that my meds have changed yet another time, I have the oval orange 8mg subutex pills. They're much bigger then my small white ones, help me get thru these crazy urges to abuse my subs. I know it's still 'using' and not being clean like I should be!!

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I wish I could send a picture .. I have never gotten a bottle with the companies name on it but I've been on the m 924 for a while now target was out of the meds so I went to Walmart and got the 54 411 and on the side of the bottle it says each tablet contains 8.64 mg of buprenorphine HCL equivalent to 8 mg of buprenorphine base. Hope this helps anyone.. I advise no one to take more than one a day from my experience .. if your dope sick (which is why your prescribed this) than something is better than nothing a small piece will make you functional and able to work.. but it is what it is.. God is alive .. love your neighbors

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I sincerely believe you're wrong about them being the same. I find the ones from Mylan are pathetic they make you nothing but tired the one from Roxanne is extremely much better in providing all day energy and mental alertness. However their effectiveness in curing the opioid addiction has yet to be seen, so far so good on that!

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There is no difference between the 54 elevens and the little ones they both contain 8 milligrams of buprenorphine the only difference is the big ones have starch and fillers and them they are both the same strength this is coming from a 28-year experienced doctor of mine

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Umm. That is INCORRECT. I have both bottles sitting in front of me. They both have 8 mg.

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Hi I'm new to this page as of today my first time here also, I am dealing with the same thing, Its been a two years now and i cant go a day without taking one or more to feel normal, it was told that it would fix me but yet again I feel like i am fighting with my addition and will ever go back to normal, The days I would jump out of bed and not have to take anything to live my life, i felt good and pills was never on my mind, I really want those days back, but i feel stuck

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Where do u go to get them filled I got a prescription but I went to Walgreen's and they gave me half moons

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Yes you can. I've come off suboxone before. I won't lie, it was awful for 2 weeks. But after realizing how addictive they were I knew this was the drug companies were really trying to turn our pain into profit I was disgusted. I knew I had that poison out of my body. And you can too. You don't have to be a slave to subs.

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Patirnt123,
Yes, they are exact same just different manufactures. The M imprint is mylan as u said and seems to work better. It's the fillers. But, they work as the other ones. Hope this helps. Also, they have orange oval subutex at Walgreen's.

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Leituras, e conhecimentos que 'despertem interesse' assim como atividades de lazer, ainda que pela Internet, ajudam a manter afastada a 'dependência', destes venenos. Tive sérios problemas com o Álcool, e sei ser 'um dos', pelo menos piores venenos, porém acessível sem receita, e somente com alguns 'cents' ;1 Dolar. Café, Chás 'estimulantes' TEA WHITE, cigarretes, não são recomendados, mas não são 'psicoativos', de modo a deixar-nos sedados,ou 'euphoria Chemical'. Temos que nós mesmos nos darmos 'alta-médica', e parar com os remédios. Desintoxicar é fácil; nem precisa sair de casa; mas aí vem a necessidade imperativa, de nos intoxicarmos,novamente, para nos sentirmos normais. Acho ser uma 'doença sem cura', infelizmente. Não é simples assim.

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Readings, and knowledge that 'arouses interest' as well as leisure activities, even on the Internet, help to keep away the 'dependence' of these poisons. I had serious problems with Alcohol, and I know to be 'one of the', at least worst poisons, but accessible without prescription, and only with a few 'cents'; Coffee, TEA WHITE 'stimulating' teas, cigarettes, are not recommended, but they are not 'psychoactive' so as to leave us sedated, or 'euphoria Chemical'. We have to get ourselves 'high-doctor' ourselves, and stop the drugs. Detox is easy; nor do you need to leave the house; but here comes the imperative need, to intoxicate us again, to feel normal. I think it's a 'disease without cure', unfortunately. It's not that simple.

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I usually get the 54 411 but recently got the 924 an they make me nauseous where I want to puke can someone tell me why is there a difference beside the maker

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Não tenho certeza,mas me parece que Naltrexone e Buprenorfina são derivados de Tebaína,um 'alcalóide' extraído da Papoula,e sintetizado a partir da Morfina,porém,induz a 'mal - estar' e à convulsões;uma espécie de antagonista 'Opiáceos',que isoladamente,não possui nenhum efeito 'torpor',ou analgesia.Somente induz à 'convulsões'.Talvez,tenham quebrado 'alguma molécula' (Laboratório),e transformado,mediante 'reação química',e acrescida de outras substâncias,também derivados de Morfina,transformando em remédio.Pesquisei,no 'google',a substância Tebaína,após eu achar um frasco 'cheio de uma espécie de 'azeite amarelo',semelhante à um 'frasco de perfume'.Estava escrito Tebaína,no rótulo,e pensei tratar-se de algum 'óleo mineral',usado e cosméticos,ou coisa parecida.Mas pelo fato de achar o nome 'tebaína',ligado à algum princípio ativo medicinal,acabei por memorizar este nome,e posteriormente 'pesquisar' tebaína no google,e tudo que li,não fazia referência à nenhum 'medicamento',a não ser como isento de 'efeitos úteis',em Medicina,mesmo para 'qualquer coisa',e que era um excelente 'indutor de convulsões'.

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I'm not sure, but it seems to me that Naltrexone and Buprenorphine are derivatives of Thebaine, an 'alkaloid' extracted from the Poppy, and synthesized from Morphine, but it induces 'malaise' and convulsions, a kind of Opiate antagonist, which alone has no 'torpor' effect, or analgesia. It only induces 'convulsions'. They may have broken 'some molecule' (Laboratory), and transformed, by 'chemical reaction', plus other substances, also derived from Morphine, transforming it into a remedy. I researched the substance Thebaine in google, after finding a vial 'filled with a kind of' yellow oil ', similar to a' perfume bottle '. label, and I thought it was some 'mineral oil', used and cosmetics, or something. But because I found the name 'Thebaine', linked to some active medicinal principle, I ended up by memorizing this name, 'thebaine on google, and everything I read, did not reference to no 'medicine', except as free from 'useful effects' in medicine, even for 'anything', and that it was an excellent 'convulsion inducer'.

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The M's are a lil different I think,,,,make u nod n an out more. But I still like...

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How do you take the white pill M924 I believe is Subutex?
Im new on this sorry but I need help how to take it because I took the film and the orange pill and I know you put it under your tongue. Do you have to do the same with M924?

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You can use an RX Savings Card and get really great discounts. Target was only 98.00 for 60 subutex. I don't know what brand they are. I think mylan 924 and Roxanne 411 pill are both very effective. I went to Kroger and they had HiTech brand it was 102.00 for 60 tablets. Walgreens was around 98.00. The prices may vary just a lil bit. Kroger was suppose to be 78.00 for 60 pills but it was 102.00. Still very cheap to CVS 170.00 but I took the HiTech brand back and I know it was all in my head, but they were the smallest pill ever and when you have to split it it was a big deal to me. Taking a lil speck verses Roxanne or Mylan pill. They were much better mentally in my head. So I'm going to call target and some of the other pharmacies that I was able to use coupons at. I know Target, Kroger, Walgreens all had coupons available but there were several more and the pharmacies do take the coupons when you show them. Without the coupons it was unreal.

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