Difference Between Adderall And Amphetamine Salts (Page 30)
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I was recently diagnosed with Adult ADD and have been prescribed Amphetamine Salts (Generic for Adderall) for a few months now. The initial dosage was one 10mg tablet/ three times a day and recently my Doctor upped the dosage to one 30mg tablet/ twice a day. I know that overall this has been very beneficial for me but I cant help but wonder if the generic brand (IR Amphetamine Salts) has less of the active ingredient, and more unnecessary side effects(irritability, fatigue). I know that while the active ingredients are likely to be the same, the "fillers" usually are not and even the active ingredients can vary up to 10%. I also know that everybody reacts differently depending on their bodies' make-up as well as the drugs and I have always reacted sensitively to any kind of drug. The more I "google" the more I want to stay away from the generic form. Also- almost every pharmacy around has little to no Adderall Brand IR tablets in stock, they only have the generic brands and possibly Adderall brand but only the Extended-Release. My Doctor seems to firmly believe that there is no difference between Adderall XR and Adderall IR, and because she prescribed me the generic form (Amphetamine Salts), she probably doesn't see a difference there either. I don't have the time to ask 10 doctors what they think so if anyone has any information or experiences please share! Thank you!

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A lot of what you say is true. Amphetamines give you a high, help you focus, and for true ADHDers like myself, these products help me slow down. The effects are awesome but.......People like the effects of the drug for a season. Then they realized for all their 'get up and go' they've gotten nowhere at all. Just circled the airport. I wound up with enlarged heart and high blood pressure. Stopped years ago now and battle my slumps like everyone else. Eat healthy, take walks and be aware of any negative self talk or mood swings. Adderall, amphetamines are not the answer just a fix for the worst places along the way. Ultimately, to spare yourself a lifetime of addiction, you want to figure out how to live healthy enough to shelve mind altering drugs. God or no god, they are NOT the final solution.

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Margarita, learn to spell and learn how to proofread your own work. Also, how about actually educating yourself about ADHD. I'm going to completely disagree with you and realized you don't know what you are talking about...kiddo. Maybe you should start taking Adderall. The grammatical mistakes that fill your post are often common things that most people with ADHD do. I was on Ritalin as a child and would not have made it through school without it. Before I started taking Adderall, I was fired from several jobs because I was told "your attention seems to go up and down...more often down." With Adderall, I find myself balanced and able to concentrate on the simple things that people like you take for granted.

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Incorrect... There is a God. The person you are referring to is also incorrect though....
God didn't make you anything except a human being. You, as well as every other human, became who you are through your own choices. You created the world you live in. If you don't like the world you live in...change it. Adderal is a delicate balance because it reflects the delicate balance of the human body, but it does help people. The main point is that you make your life and your world around you the way you choose, not Gods choice, not the devil's choice.... And certainly not a doctors choice

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What felt like too much with one generic brand at 2x20 a day, feels like too little with another. Had the same problem with generics for my thyroid medication, Synthroid, and have stuck with name brand for over a decade as a result. Will be asking my MD to prescribe Adderall only at next visit.

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Margarita Says:

Mon, Oct 29 '12, 11:42 PM

there is no difference, adderall is aphetamine; also known as speed. it is a highly addictive and powerful psychoactive drug that for most people causes more problems than it solves, like all illegal and controlled substances. trust me, adderall is no joke [ * * * ] if you are not smart, than that is how god made you, taking a drug isn't going to solve that problem. it may at first, but we all the know that age old story. at first people use drugs for harmless fun, or to solve some issue they are having in their life, soon they need the drug, and after awhile, they need more and more until they realize the drug has caused them more problems and all they wish is to be off the drug. they stop taking the drug and they are never the same again, and they realize they wasted years of their life on the drug. [ * * * ] adderall is in league with coke and methamphetamine, stop taking it. i know what im talking about kido
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Take your unsolicited preaching elsewhere.

You're the type of know-it-all who would deny morphine to a terminal cancer patient because ... "opiates are evil" and intractable agony is much, much better.

As a matter of fact, you're the type of know-it-all who helped design Obama-care, right...?

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Not asking to be critical, just wondering if you had the option to see another doctor when the first didn't respond to the terrible side effects your daughter was suffering? When I first started taking Adderall, I did have a crazy ability to go with little sleep, had less appetite and I talked wayyyy too much, but these subsided pretty fast.

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I do well on generic Adderall, a.k.a. amphetamine salts.

In fact, I would think that IF someone does NOT do well on the drug -- worse than tolerable side effects -- that it is NOT the correct drug, either the person was misdiagnosed, or they should be on Ritalin or some other drug.

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Margarite is right, my soon to be ex husband is now a speed freak thanks to this drug

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wake up my soon to ex husband is on amphetamine salts, changes his whole personality and I threw his sorry ass to the curb, he says he prefers meth which is illegal, who the hell would live with that? he was on porn sites all night, and is just a mess, I would say don't take this crap and it was prescribed by a shrink, he was also putting drugs in my drinks, after 28 years of marriage it's OVER. too bad drugs had to be the source.

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@Margarita, I certainly understand your concern, but you need to understand that while for most people, d-amphetamine does act like "speed," for people with ADD/ADHD, it actually calms brain activity and allows for better concentration and impulse control. Some sufferers of ADD/ADHD (myself among them) even find that Adderall helps with problems falling asleep because, again, it calms the hyperactivity in the brain.

Read the books of Dr. Russell Barkley, one of the top experts on adult ADD/ADHD, who explains why Adderall, Ritalin and their ilk are not "speed" or addictive for those of us with this disorder. He contends, as well, that these drugs have the highest success rate by far of any treatment for brain/psychological disorders. These are drugs that have been studied for decades. One neuro-psychologist told me, if I remember correctly, that d-amphetamine has been around for a century or so and has proved to be safe.

Like so many others I resisted these drugs--refused to even consider them--despite the fact that I have struggled every single day from childhood and into middle age with the effects of my ADD. It's not an issue of smart or not smart, or procrastination, of laziness or of lacking respect for others when one is chronically tardy, late on deadlines and on and on (these are among the typical traits of someone with adult ADHD) -- it's a brain disorder, and is most often genetic (When I learned about adult ADHD, I also understood my mother's "failings"). I went through years and years with a therapist who also didn't believe in drugs, and while she was wonderful and helped with some things, I made absolutely no progress on the problems I now know are associated with this disorder. My current psychiatrist says that, while some behavioral therapy can be helpful, talk therapy does nothing for ADHD itself. I wasted SO much of my life fighting for concentration, struggling to keep track of time and feeling like a failure every day (despite running a business and having the respect of my peers), when this medication could have been helping me. It's not a panacea, but it makes a real and immediate difference.

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This is a response to post about people using meds to "cope". This is not true in every case. Does the diabetic take insulin to cope...? What about cardiac & cancer patients? I agree many of these scheduled meds are abused and can cause dependency, but please don't assume everyone takes them for recreation. Like you, I am also saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. For me Adderall isn't a substitute for the peace of God that passes all understanding. I agree about prayer for all things & I know the Word of God has all answers. God also tells believers will still have difficulties. I'm not intending to be critical, I'm just saying no one can know for sure the circumstances of another...even someone you have known for years.

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I just remembered something about the generic adderall!!! The brand name Adderall has a sweet taste, almost like candy. The generic brand tastes VERY bitter. This came to mind because when I first began taking Adderall, I thought how easily a child would think it was candy. The generic is bitter. My son is grown now but I still cringe thinking about sweet tasting medicine.. If it tastes different, wouldn't that mean ingredients aren't the same?

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Well, Mr so called Dr. This is our situation: My daughter went from 130lb down to 98lb on Aderall. The wonderful meds took a vibrant young woman and made her look like a street addict! she had dark circles and heavy veins in her arms. She slept a few hrs each night and would walk the morning hrs at 1AM to 3AM with her dog in remote forested areas. Oh but she could focus better when she studied and when she wasn't delusional. The question is it worth it? After 1 yr her health was rapidly declining!!!!! Do you get it! Some Dr's don't deserve ANY respect, and her Dr. could have cared less because he continued with the prescription! Just because a DR gives out the meds doesn't make it right. But why would a Dr do such a thing??? Could it possibly have to do with $? My daughter is now off the Adderall and she has regained all her health. this is not to condemn those that feel they are doing well on it...truly I could not make a recommendation for them because there are so many other reasons that people struggle in their minds, and everybody has their own reaction. I am just saying perhaps...also try some holistic approaches and also bio rythms and re mapping the brain. Pills are not the only option... But absolutely no condemnation to those who believe they need them. I know it is not easy to have ADHD. Please, Dont just trust a person because they are a so called DR. Not all Dr. agree, I am sure most people know this...we had a horrible experience though.

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Adderall isn't just for narcolepsy . It's primary use is for aadd. Certain individuals brain chemistry lacks proper amounts of synapsids . Telling people medication is unessasary is wrong and dangerous . Dr. Murphy

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hes taking it for medical purposes that was prescribed to him by a doctor and is wondering if there are harmfull fillers and binders in different brands, not a junkie like you make him sound to be. im sure hes aware of the side effects, as hes probably been briefed by his doctor. also you do sound pretentious, only because your reply had nothing to do with the question at hand.

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I'm 53. Started Adderal last spring, and for the first time I was able to calmly focus on things again. It was an answered prayer for me. Before Adderall I took Nuvigil for a while but it made me nervous and too expensive! Changing from Nuvigil to adderal saved much money, plus adderal didn't have bad side effects. Now I'm taking genericnadderal makes me uncomfortable and jumpy/restless. It is like a different drug. I'm not crazy...I physically feel the side effects of generic. I don't want to speed! I don't take it to speed...I will see if my pharmacy will go back to generic even if it costs more. Any thoughts? I will post what my pharmacist says.

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Let me just say when I was five I was on the highest dose of Ritilan and I slept all day in school... So my mom walked the school and flushed all the meds I was on..... Today I'm 29 And I'm on 150mg of Limictal twice a day, and 0.5 kolotopin once at night for panic disorder, Elivil aka amitripiline 25mg for bipolar , anxitiy , mood stablizer, and bladder spazam and I take at night so it wont make me sleepy in the day . And I don't take nothing for the ADHD . Yet ! I hope you and your daughter the best of luck with the medication.

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I don't think margarita was saying people are stupid. She was trying to get people to think about where this drug will lead. My daughter has ADHD and has used this drug. I can only say she does not do well on it, she looks like a user and her health declines. We are under so much pressure to perform in this society, people need a way to cope, but I too believe adarall is the wrong choice. We can learn to cope and learn yto relax and learn to improve our health. Society is no better with all these meds, I feel it is much worse and we are becoming more isolated and detached. Maybe it is stupid to rely on the meds these legal drug pushers dole out. Come on now who hasn't done stupid things. That's not the point, so don't take it personally. God made you in his image and he loves you, that will never change. And there is help in prayer and meditation.

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Why the heck are you on this site? Do you have adhd? Does Margarita? I assume you are Margarita, what is your issue? Please post your reason to rip apart people trying to get by in life like everyone else.

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