Difference Between Adderall And Amphetamine Salts (Page 27) (Top voted first)

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I was recently diagnosed with Adult ADD and have been prescribed Amphetamine Salts (Generic for Adderall) for a few months now. The initial dosage was one 10mg tablet/ three times a day and recently my Doctor upped the dosage to one 30mg tablet/ twice a day. I know that overall this has been very beneficial for me but I cant help but wonder if the generic brand (IR Amphetamine Salts) has less of the active ingredient, and more unnecessary side effects(irritability, fatigue). I know that while the active ingredients are likely to be the same, the "fillers" usually are not and even the active ingredients can vary up to 10%. I also know that everybody reacts differently depending on their bodies' make-up as well as the drugs and I have always reacted sensitively to any kind of drug. The more I "google" the more I want to stay away from the generic form. Also- almost every pharmacy around has little to no Adderall Brand IR tablets in stock, they only have the generic brands and possibly Adderall brand but only the Extended-Release. My Doctor seems to firmly believe that there is no difference between Adderall XR and Adderall IR, and because she prescribed me the generic form (Amphetamine Salts), she probably doesn't see a difference there either. I don't have the time to ask 10 doctors what they think so if anyone has any information or experiences please share! Thank you!

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Although I agree that it shouldn't be prescribed to children, Adderall makes a significant difference in those who have issues with ADD/ADHD. As someone who relies on this drug to keep a full-time position for myself and my family I have found Adderall to be the best form in terms of how it gently stabilizes my day where the generic versions seem to be a lot less graceful. This drug isn't bad unless it's abused and the main difference, I feel from experience, is the way the fillers are reacting to the body.

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I can tell you to try and keep away from generic Adderall. They absolutely don't work as well as Shire Adderall xr the original manufacturer. Some will cause sudden blood pressure increase, some like you never took anything. Even if you call Shire they will stear you toward Teva brand for I R. But even though I have tried Aurobindo, Core, an Teva, the Teva brand is the most tolerable but not nearly as effective as Shire. The one brand I would like to give a chance to is Sandoz but it can't be found unless I drive over a hundred miles.

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I know this post was done in 2013, but I hope you are able to read this. You need to change doctors. If you are feeling symptoms behind a medication and your doctor does not provide you with what will help you, then he is not the doctor to see. I have had ADD symtoms most of my life and I never knew what it was. I was always lost and confused and had extreme anxiety all my life. For years I struggled trying to find out why I couldn't focus and was all over the place. ADD and ADHD is a severe disease that controls your life. I have recently started to take the generic form of Adderall and it gave me an unbelievable migraine for a week. I stopped them and told my doctor. Yesterday, he then gave the generic Adderall and (Bystolic for my anxiety - 5 mgs.). My doctor told me to try the two medications because it would help me on both counts. I pray that my life gets better on these meds. I hope the same for you. Please change your doctor to someone who listens and does trial and error to help you.

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you r so right on hun'' i my self switch insurace and pharmacays'' all they had thier was amphetamine salts, my goodness they make me sleepy, hungry all the time, most of all i have to have my friends drive me places when im to sleepy r tired' and my hair is falling out'' my children ask '' mom why u sleep all the time?? so i went back to my doc' told him what was going on with me' we did some reserch and found a pharmacy that has what i been taken a long time now'''' so she is stupid""" just cant stop taking ur meds just like that'' i know my body i have a low tolerances when it comes to taking meds' who wants to be on theses things unless u need them'' and i know i do'' so put a sock in it''' dont judge without judging ur self first''' seawife'''

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Great place to learn and listen to folks who have experienced the good and bad of Generic Adderall
I have been on Adderall 20mg 3 times a day.
I have been worried about generic for some time now.
Barr web site says not more than approx 6 months ago a recall on the medication. According to manufacturer they were adding 2x the active ingredient. R U Kidding? Now this month, prescription is horrible, no active ingredients, side effects so bad migraine for $120 So I am changing something very soon I am sick Thanks you guys

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Wow, margarita, it sounds like you've had a bad experience with heavy drugs and are really condescending with the word "kido". Perhaps you're unable to use this drug but I've been using it for 5 yrs as needed and typically have to fill my script every other month. Yes I had to learn that it's a super drug and to be careful but in the end it's actually helped me significantly. There is one generic version over another that works well and for me that one is manufactured by tevo. I have my psych prescribe that one specifically. Good luck.

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No you do not feel effects from inactive ingredients.....they are INACTIVE. I also don't understand how you managed to identify the source of effects as the inactive ingredients and not the active ones. Whatever you felt was clearly due to the active ingredients only. This really shouldn't even require explanation.

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Existem pessoas que apresentam, uma espécie de desequilíbrio químico, a nível funcional, quanto à produção, para mais ou para menos, de substâncias importantes, produzidas dentro do cérebro, e quando não repostas, de um modo complementar, acaba por interferir, de modo negativo,em aspectos como cognição, por exemplo.Assim como uma baixa produção do hormônio Melatonina, pode resultar em intermináveis noites de insônia,o que acaba por repercutir,por 'tabela',em muitos outros aspectos, como a sonolência diurna 'compensação',em horário escolar, no trabalho,etc. Acaba por induzir a falta de atenção, no aprendizado,e por aí vai.Nestas condições,é preciso repor, seja através do próprio hormônio Melatonina, sintetizados artificialmente em laboratórios,ou por 'outros compostos', para regularizar o sono,levando-se sempre em conta,o fator risco-benefício,dos princípio-ativos,que venham a serem administrados, levando-se em conta as peculiaridades de cada indivíduo,como idade,grau de toxicidade hepática e (ou) neurológicas, entre outros.Isto vale, a meu ver,para 'todos os órgãos',envolvidos no metabolismo das referidas substância. Fitoterápicos,que induzem ao sono, como o Mulungu, a Valeriana, a Passiflora 'extratos', o extrato de Kavaína,obtido a partir da planta Kawa-Kawa,e a associação de 2 ou mais,destas substâncias,podem serem úteis para alguns 'indivíduos',e nem tanto para outros. Claro que a preferência por 'princípios ativos' que,usualmente não venham a provocarem uma dependência,seja psicológica e (ou) física, devem serem priorizados,a meu ver.Contanto que reagimos de maneira diferente a uma mesma substância,sejam elas naturais ou artificiais,além de outras condições orgânicas,que variam de pessoa para pessoa,nem sempre se acerta, na ou nas primeiras tentativas,quanto à escolha de tal ou qual substância.Em tese, penso que isto vale para todos as substâncias, variando apenas quanto à sintomatologia manifestada.

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There are people who exhibit a kind of chemical imbalance at the functional level as to the production, more or less, of important substances produced within the brain, and when they are not replaced in a complementary way, negative, in aspects such as cognition, for example. Like a low production of the hormone Melatonin, can result in endless nights of insomnia, which ends up repercussion, by 'table', in many other aspects, such as daytime sleepiness 'compensation', in school hours, at work, etc. It ends up by inducing the lack of attention, in learning, and so on. In these conditions, it is necessary to replace, either through the hormone Melatonin itself, artificially synthesized in laboratories, or by 'other compounds', to regularize sleep, taking into account the peculiarities of each individual, such as age, degree of hepatic toxicity and (or) neurological, among others. This is worth, in my view, to 'all organs', involved in the metabolism of said substance. Sleep-inducing herbal remedies such as Mulungu, Valeriana, Passiflora 'extracts', Kavaína extract obtained from the Kawa-Kawa plant, and the association of 2 or more of these substances may be useful for some 'individuals', and not so much to others. Of course, the preference for 'active principles' that usually do not provoke a dependence, be it psychological or (or) physical, should be prioritized, in my view. While we react differently to the same substance, whether natural or artificial conditions, and other organic conditions, which vary from person to person, are not always correct, in the first or the first attempts, as to the choice of this or that substance. In theory, I think this applies to all substances, varying only to the manifested symptomatology.

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IQ is commonly observed as a order of magnitude from the norm. Nobody ever interprets the value numerically, i.e. 100 is 50th percentile, 135 is 97th percentile. So 3x is often the case.

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Really? that's simply ONLY your opinion. And, are you a M.D? just because you have had issues with it (stating what you wrote) doesn't mean everyone does. I'm sorry you're an addict. however, I am not. And need this medication. So please, less personal information and more medical facts please.

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I agree with you! I lost my insurance coverage and when I asked the pharmacy if there was a generic for adderall xr they said no but when I got my script filled it was a generic. I've been taking it since Monday and have noticed a huge difference in the way I feel! I'll be calling my Dr Monday morning.

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Sais de Anfetaminas, como eu conheço, são Derivados da Anfetamina. Dietilpropiona, Metanfetamina, Dexanfetamina, Dexedrina, Desoxifedrina, Dexanfetamina, Fenproporex, dentre outros, que não me recordo o nome 'princípio ativo'. Diferem, sob a forma farmacêutica, na extensão e intensidade de 'efeitos',para cada cápsula ou comprimido. Todos eles tem em comum; inibição ou anulação de sensação fome e sono.Todos são 'inibidores do apetite', provocam insônia, estimulação cerebral, algum efeito 'anti-depressivo' imediato,e na supressão ou suspensão do uso, fraqueza muscular, ansiedade, depressão,desinteresse, fadiga,e irritabilidade, em certos indivíduos, porém não em sua maioria. Foram proibidos no Brasil,e consideradas 'drogas ilícitas', por várias décadas, ficando somente a 'anfepramona' (dietilpropiona), e o Fenproporex. A cerca de 3 ou 4 anos,também foram estas duas últimas substâncias, retiradas do Comércio, e não autorizadas pelos 'Órgãos de Controle' da Saúde. Recentemente, foi novamente autorizadas, porém a 'altos custos' a 'WENWANSE' (dimesilato de Lisdexanfetamina), assim como a Ritalina, que não chegou a ser proibida, para o tratamento de Hiperatividade, e Déficit de Atenção. Me parece que também em 'off label', como coadjuvantes em dietas de emagrecimento, também. Nunca os tomei, portanto não posso avaliar,embora os ecxipientes 'ingredientes inativos',não provocam nenhuma 'ação' no organismo diretamente, mas tem uma grande importância, quanto ao 'tempo de início',espaço de tempo, em que começam a agirem a liberação do princípio ativo.Existem as 'formulações simples', de liberação imediata 20 a 60 minutos,para começarem a agir, assim como as formulações 'RETARD',ou Liberação gradativa, em que normalmente são em doses maiores 'por cápsula ou comprimidos', porém a absorção é mai lenta, e de maior duração, sendo, inclusive, menos tóxicas, a princípio,exatamente pelo fato de não provocarem a euforia e 'bem-estar', exagerados, assim como taquicardia, em muitas pessoas.No 'dia seguinte',somente uma 'nova dose', faz com que se 'sinta o chão',novamente, fato bastante comum,quando em uso de 'anfetamínicos', de forma contínua; isto também ocorre com inúmeras outras substancias,que possuem o 'potencial' de abuso e a formação de dependência, por provocar um certo 'bem-estar'. Com 'Opiáceos', é a mesma coisa, embora os efeitos, sejam, opostos e antagonistas às anfetaminas, porém o potencial de 'abuso e dependência', são comprovadamente, maiores,devido a também 'sensação euforia',e sonolência leve,assim como a sensação de 'plenitude' e calmaria; sejam as vias de administração oral, retal, I.M (injeções) e E.V., intra-musculares e endovenosas,mais comumente, apesar de também, no caso de certos 'anfetamínicos', via inalações, como administração intranasal, e como 'analgesia complementar' à ação de 'Opiáceos', quando aplicados de forma concomitante.

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Amphetamine salts, as I know them, are Amphetamine Derivatives. Diethylpropion, Methamphetamine, Dexamfetamine, Dexedrine, Deoxifedrine, Dexamfetamine, Fenproporex, among others, I do not remember the name 'active principle'. They differ, in pharmaceutical form, in the extent and intensity of 'effects', for each capsule or tablet. They all have in common; inhibition or suppression of hunger and sleep.All are 'appetite suppressants', induce insomnia, brain stimulation, some immediate 'anti-depressant' effect, and suppression or discontinuation of use, muscle weakness, anxiety, depression, disinterest, fatigue , and irritability, in certain individuals, but not in the majority. They were banned in Brazil and considered 'illicit drugs' for several decades, leaving only 'amfepramone' (diethylpropione), and Fenproporex. About 3 or 4 years ago, these last two substances were withdrawn from the Trade and not authorized by the Health Control Bodies. Recently, WENWANSE (dimesylate Lisdexamphetamine), as well as Ritalin, which has not been banned, for the treatment of Hyperactivity, and Attention Deficit. It seems to me also on 'off label', as aids in weight loss diets, too. I have never taken them, so I can not evaluate them, although the ecxipientes 'inactive ingredients' do not provoke any 'action' in the organism directly, but it has a great importance, as for the 'beginning time', time period, in which they begin to act the release of the active principle. There are 'simple formulations', immediate release 20 to 60 minutes, to begin acting, as well as the 'RETARD' or 'Gradual Release' formulations, which are usually in larger doses per capsule or tablets but the absorption is slower, and longer in duration, and even less toxic at first, precisely because they do not cause exaggerated euphoria and 'well-being', as well as tachycardia in many people. 'next day', only a 'new dose', makes the 'feel the ground', again, quite common fact, when in use of 'amphetamines', continuously; this also occurs with numerous other substances, which possess the 'potential' of abuse and the formation of dependence, for provoking a certain 'well-being'. With 'opiates', it is the same, although the effects, both opposites and antagonists to amphetamines, but the potential for 'abuse and dependence', are proven to be greater, due to also 'euphoria', and mild drowsiness, as well like the feeling of 'fullness' and calm; are the routes of oral, rectal, IM (injections) and EV, intramuscular and intravenous, more commonly, although also in the case of certain 'amphetamines', via inhalations, as intranasal administration, and as 'complementary analgesia' to the action of 'Opiates' when applied concomitantly.

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chime inn some GENERIC FACTS....

been prescribed for over a year, dose, 30mg IR twice daily (max dose)

tried all generics except Sandoz which the mass amounts research I did, has best results overall generics, that's 2016 feedback.....

since the formula changes, and it's very obvious when they do to daily users, just have to ride the wave, don't be wreckless and fill a prescription period without research of which heeds best results, period if you F up, say bye to ur whole month till refill.....

just happend to me, i flipped s***, I'm still pissed and I'm already back on working addies...auto BINDO orange to pink cor to teva footballs.....

I stuck with what worked, and this was in the last 11 months, pink cor pharma has had a good turn around the last 11 or so months, there's not much feedback to confirm this, and ive even for myself learned the hard way, got a refill last month. It wasn't cor pink. I look, there teva footballs. I didn't panic, was kinda pumped to try, as prior research stated teva footballs were #1 best pref generic PERIOD. uhhh, found out myself and further research, teva was on top effectiveness for a long time and cor pink sucked bad for a long time, well.....

now it's proven fact, cor pink & teva footballs are now reversed strength/effectiveness....2016....all I know is much feedback supported the exact opinion after taking them...

.....night and day difference, I was boiling pissed. I mean plssssssed off, cuz u know those extra smart pharmacy techs know it all, how "generics work all the same" LOL! 55 minutes later, I'm kicked out of CVS and cops called.

(I felt so insulted) you're not gunna tell me when i've actually taken both an ur just stuck up ur own azz and book smart!!!

pink vs footballs are not even close to the same effects.... I'd bet my life on it, and anybody that knows real effective Adderall, then u fill teva trash footballs one 30 IR start yawning with cold chills, take a second 30 IR to be sure you're not placebo effecting.

so 60 mg Adderall making me yawn tired as hell, almost sick feeling, with cold chills, an I'm supposed to accept feeling this way for another 29 days cuz your sorry I feel this way? bro....haha wahh anyways.....

ANYbody thinking generic is all the same don't screw yourself by believing doctors or pharm techs...

a lot backs up what I'm saying, look it up. teva used be the best, now cor is, simple as that...actually sandoz is...which I haven't tried as it's very hard to come by, but has been most consistent in TONS of research for pref...

Choice of cor pink or teva football (october 2016) if u choose teva your screwed, no question.

and I always dose with 3,000 mg Antacid Calcium Supplement (10mins prior to dose) absorption rate is higher then normal, but teva is so ineffective it's absorbing worthless chems only.

you're totally delusional or u havent switched from 1 to another.....

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I was also perscribed adderall 20mg xr once dayly the generic brand and it worked for a week but now i dont feel like doing anything i feel tired wore out wanting to fall asleep, i know my insurance will cover any add medication that i think will work so im thinking about asking her about name brand adderall, but dont know if my pharmacy has them.

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First of all there is God, if there is no God then there's no hope but straight misery. With the rest of the message I do agree. I do have ADHD and I've been on Adderall for couple years now. Although the worse thing that I find is not Adderall it's actually brand and generic Concerta. Concerta helps some people but for me I almost felt like I was gonna die on it. Plus my i**** doctor at the time almost cried when he tried so badly to prescribe it to me. Anyhow, I find Adderall to be the best medication for treating ADHD regardless of whether or not it's brand name or generic.

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Celeste, Thank you for posting your info. About Generic Adderal. I have multiple Auto Immune Disorders and Narcolepsy along with several virus's that cause me severe exhaustion etc. no matter how much rest or sleep I get. My Docs put me on generic 10 mg. After 3 wks. of absolutely no help, I called and asked to try 20mgs. twice a day.( yrs. ago I tried Provigil and then Novigil and no help, so I've just been suffering for yrs.) so for approx. 3 wks. I have tried the generic Adderal and I am continuing to feel worse. I thot till I read your post that I was losing it. Every day I wake up and pray to God (YES there is a GOD) to guide me in the right direction and to find answers. Tonight I read your post, and I have hope to try a different medication,because my prayers were answered by God leading me here to your POST. ??

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I also have adult adhd and generalized anxiety disorder and panic disorder. Without my medication I would not be able to function like a contributing member to society, and I manage it without abusing it. Ignorance is something that creates the stigma that everyone takes medication for the sole purpose of getting high or whatever. This angers me as well.

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Thanks for the brutal honesty! I mother of ADHD children. I have it. Dam genetics!! Because of ignorance that woman was exactly why prisons. Institution's, jail's. Unfortunately these places full of people who did not get diagnosed. I know for a fact. I will not let my children slip away into the world and self medicate. I personally know from my experience. My three daughters are extremely greatful to have a mother who did not ignore the signs. I am greatful for Adderall. Once my 3 girls could not succeed at school. Today with medicine they are working as nurses in these the three places I mentioned. Hell on earth. Thanks for your message.

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I don't understand why you all are jumping his case. I'm a 20 year old male and I take Adderall. He expressed his opinion and I feel he is entitled to it. Just like all you are. So before you jump the "bandwagon" do not and I mean do not discriminate against someone who is openly opinionated. Perhaps he feels drugs are bad and it's true some people who take the drug Adderall eventually go to drugs. They branch off. I know because my sister did. My friends did. But. Fortunately for me I was fine with the drug. For the most part that is of course.

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Hi im trying to find out the right combo that will help me out. I was diagnosed with ADHD. I also have other illnesses diabetic gestational then type 2 for 27yrs, fibromyalgia for 4yrs and the medication for this absolutely wears me down. For the ADHD I take 15mg generic Adderall as soon as I wake up to help wake me up then 75mg of Vyvanse later to help me stay focused but I still run out of steam by 3pm and I work an 8hr day 5 days a week. I go in for check ups once a month and talk with a GP and I also have a Therapist I was just wondering if about a better way to help me or just keep letting them balance the medication until it works.

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