Difference Between Adderall And Amphetamine Salts (Page 22)

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I was recently diagnosed with Adult ADD and have been prescribed Amphetamine Salts (Generic for Adderall) for a few months now. The initial dosage was one 10mg tablet/ three times a day and recently my Doctor upped the dosage to one 30mg tablet/ twice a day. I know that overall this has been very beneficial for me but I cant help but wonder if the generic brand (IR Amphetamine Salts) has less of the active ingredient, and more unnecessary side effects(irritability, fatigue). I know that while the active ingredients are likely to be the same, the "fillers" usually are not and even the active ingredients can vary up to 10%. I also know that everybody reacts differently depending on their bodies' make-up as well as the drugs and I have always reacted sensitively to any kind of drug. The more I "google" the more I want to stay away from the generic form. Also- almost every pharmacy around has little to no Adderall Brand IR tablets in stock, they only have the generic brands and possibly Adderall brand but only the Extended-Release. My Doctor seems to firmly believe that there is no difference between Adderall XR and Adderall IR, and because she prescribed me the generic form (Amphetamine Salts), she probably doesn't see a difference there either. I don't have the time to ask 10 doctors what they think so if anyone has any information or experiences please share! Thank you!

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Pointing a finger means three are pointing back at yourself (judge). Judge not, lest ye be judged in the same manner.. Yes, coming from a "God chaser", "Holy Roller", whatever you'd like to call me but in the end, we are all Human. We are all loved by someone, asked not to be judged, looking for answers, and you were too or you wouldn't have been on here to begin with ; ) yes, i have Adult ADD....i still bless you in Jesus name...Amen.

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It has little to do with what's written on your prescription n moreto do with the pharmacy you choose to fill them.. Every pharmacy has different adderal n most will tell you what kind they have so you have the decision to not fill there if you don't like there brand.. That's what I do BC they all work differently to me as well. N I'm not paying more money for a kind that's less effective! IDC what people say they are different with slightly different ingredients in each.

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Try to find a new doc it doesn't sound like that one trust your word over his and you would know what works best for you! Doesn't seem like he's going to budge so I would be seeking a new doc to continue you on what you were on for 3 years. If u don't wanna change doctors or having trouble finding one least try to get him to prescribe you 40 mg day, it's better then 20 mg.. If anything else. Wish you luck?

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I have used adderall and amphetamine salts for years now and never one time have I been addicted or said to myself hey... Adderall is great... I think I'll go have some methamphetamine? It has its purposes but to throw it in the same category as blow and methamphetamine is pushing it way too far.

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You are absolutely right Teva does NOTHING and should be investigated. Because they're the cheapest wholesaler every place carries it.

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exactly who are you to play doctor. This drug has saved my life and i only take it has directed not for any other reason. Please the only ignorant one is you with your comment. Its not for everyone and should not be taken recreational. but for the Love of God I thank Him.everyday for giving me the courage to take a pill to help my brain focus.

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Hi All, I had a bad experience on Vyvanse, I tried it 3 different times in a year time frame. It made me ill. loss weight and weird. I could not drink coffee, I was having more anxiety. I would get really spaced out and fearful when I was driving. Yes it helped me focus but the side effects were scary. I finally said enough. This is not going to be it for me. Well I started to listen to myself and reached out and with the help of psychiatrist and therapist we started the Adderall. My Life slowly got on track. I am not perfect or fixed I still take every back road or side street to avoid freeways when there is traffic. My spelling sucks but I got a phone and a computer to help me get on without looking slow. lol. But i can slow my speech so others can understand me because i process things faster than most people do. I listen, understand, not interrupt others when they are speaking. I get things done and my fidgeting is less. But most important I feel more confident and life is easier. My brain needed a little help that's all. Great things are happening. I need to be ready for them. Love yourself.

Ok i got off the subject but Adderall for me worked better and still does. All I can do is share my experience. You need to try a few kinds of meds for ADHD till you get there right one. Just like driving a new car or looking for the right partner. It takes time. Have any questions just ask? Best of luck.

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You do know that not everybody gets addicted to drugs when using, and using isn't the problem but how the government refuses to to just moderate it, drugs can help feel better as a type of "medicine" and addie does nothing special besides making you more focused

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I have to say the best alternative to Xanax is Klonopin opposed to Ativan and Valium for sure. Klonopin simply has a longer half life and really gives similar affects to Xanax in my experience. Ativan and Valium works but tends to give alternate effects rather than Xanax and Klonopin. You may just need to take .5 larger dose than Xanax initially but shouldn't need to take it as frequently.

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Can you tag you you are replying or asking the question to? Sometimes it's hard to tell who the response is referred to. For future reference anyways.

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Hi there, I too have been diagnosed with adult ADD and my shrink also put me on d-amphetamine salt combo 10mg 3x a day and I told her from the beginning that I felt as if it was not working. I finally asked her to just put me on the extended relief and she was going to but I told her never mind that the meds seemed to be finally working, well, until I got my next prescription. I filled the prescription she gave me and started taking it and automatically felt like it did not work. So I started doing my own research by typing in the printed numbers on the pills from the month before and the new script. Finally I started calling the Manufacturers of the pills and ended up talking with someone from Teva Pharmaceuticals and told him my problem. He figured it out for me and told me that the pharmacy must have put the NAME BRAND in the bottle and labeled it as a generic and then gave me the generic with my new prescription. So that is when I realized that the generic was totally worthless and that I am going to have to ask for the name brand. He asked me some questions and I gladly answered them and he said that he would send everything that I told him to manufacturing and that they would do an investigation. So I am trying to let everyone know that they should call TEVA PHARMACEUTICALS and file a complaint that the GENERIC ADDERALL IS NOT WORKING. What I was prescribed is D-AMPHETAMINE SALT COMBO 10mg with a (b 972) on the back. So if anyone who is reading this is having problems with their generic Adderall, Please call this company and COMPLAIN because if you don't they will never fix this problem. The more of us who complain the more of a chance that they will fix this. IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.

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Don't tell me there is no God. You don't know that and makes me feel like the rest of the "information" you gave is also just opinion.

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No u are wrong. You must know someone who abuses it. It is very far from being in the leagues of coke and methamphetamine. Your comparing apples with apple butter. Adderall is used to treat narcolepsy and chronic fatigue, however its primary purpose is treating adhd and add. I have hypersomnia and my whole life it plagued me with fatigue and chronic depression. I had no idea what was wrong with me. I just started believing what everyone said that I was no good and lazy unable to hold down a job. I self medicated the depression with opiates which increased my problems 10 fold. Further incapacitating me with fatigue more depression and opiate withdrawal side effects. At the age of 31 I went to see a neurologist to find out what was going on A MRI and 3 sleep studies revealed I had a disease known as idiopathic hypersomnia which likely affected me since early adolescence. Adderrol prescribed problem solved. Went from living with mom no girlfriend no money just food stamps to making 80000 annually married with 2 kids new cars new house and pretty much everything else I could want. So no don't detour people from this drug because u know a kid abusing adderrall for a cheap high. It changes lives but not to be abused. Take as prescribed because tolerance develops quickly. Thankfully doctors know proper dosing techniques to prevent or minimize increasing doses.

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Agreed I feel some folks say something isn't working because they don't get an feeling of euphoria or enhanced mood like they did when first started. Obviously that doesn't carry on and you get the positive effects of the med it is supposed to do for individual conditions.
When people say IT DON'T WORK like it used too, I think they are looking for the enhanced mood and not paying attention to the benefits of which it was prescribed.

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Damn bro, 8mgs of Xanax a day is a lot, that's 4 bars. I would be too f***ed up off of that. Are you sure that's what you're taking?

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I appreciate your post. I have a daughter who had been diagnosed since kindergarten but had not been medicated except for a few months intermittently as I myself have the same fear as your mother about medications. I have struggled my whole life with executive function but 30 years ago when I started schooling, life was simpler and my structured homelife led me to academic and athletic over achievement. I failed miserably out of college by simply taking on too much and not being able to manage on my own. Tennis, basketball, band and academic scholarships, 18 pre-med hours at a private school and then boyfriends and trying to work, against my parents wishes. I have always struggled socially and in relationships, as I don't keep up or turn up and in romantic relations im either checked out (bored and absent) or on high drive and 'too much' for my partners. I've chosen to remain single lately due to so many failed ones that I can't tolerate the constant change, the heart break and self esteem crush nor the disappointment that I cause others who see and expect a more than competent woman. I can only manage one or two aspects of life at any given time. I had no idea what adhd even was until my own daughter was diagnosed the first two weeks into school. I was diagnosed alongside my kiddo, and have been in multiple clinical studies since then. But still, im afraid of the medicine.

I've gotten by and had some success. Granite, life feels complicated and hard alot of the time. But there Are many things I like and enjoy about my quirks ..and about my daughters. I do find it depressing at times as others succeed easily and we struggle. (I coach her basketball team & tennis private lessons so I'm constantly helping and seeing others succeed)

As I said, Now, she is in 4th grade and we are in a very competitive and upper class school district in Dallas, Texas area. I'd met many people here who take adderrall both kids and adults. I'm a single mother, no doubt due to my failings interpersonally. So that adds to out struggle.

Long story short, after months of emails with the school district about tardies, absenteeism (yes, it's me as sell) and then 504 plan, ive finally given in and asked the doctor to wrote the script. I'm not insured currently, so we were given the most affordable med... D amphetamine salt combo 20 my @ 2x daily.

I'm planning to do one tab in a.m. every other day. Because I'm afraid. End of the day, I feel she and I both need to know how to get by on what brains we have. I also feel that there is residual effect on the off day ..and I feel that dependancy on anything will lead down the wrong road. Adhd people have unique gifts and i don't want to cripple her ability God given. Mine either. .. We are good people and unique and kind of difficult but we try hard to make others lives brighter and to live out our purpose

Can you tell me any more about your experience with adhd meds ? Have you tried going off of them and seen that life is even harder than before you started? How does it make you feel? Do you long for your old adhd self at times? Do people feel you 'have changed'? And if so, for better or how?

I'm feeling very emotional about this decision and would benefit from an unbiased and non-clinical review of pharmaceutical treatment for adhd..

Anyone out there?..

Thank you so much.

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Lissa: Well put, cheers to you, too :)

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The only difference in my opinion and let me repeat that..opinion... Is how YOU (the person taking the medicine) feels. You can't really go by others opinions because they all affect you differently. Most substance abusers have ADHD or ADD. They don't seek help and they self medicate themselves because they believe drugs help them cope in life but in reality it's all mental. Your brain is a muscle and I believe whatever you want to build in your life, whether it be jobs, friendships, focus, etc you must work your brain to reach it and like every other muscle that area will grow and become stronger. Many people need this medicine and don't even realize it but need is only temporary. You must want to change and remind yourself that it's only temporary.

That being said... Now for my opinion: I like the non time release version of adderall. As far as there being a difference, I'm sure there might be but I was put on the salts and so far I've been amazing. I used to be on the XR and couldn't STAND it. Mainly because it remained in my system way too long for me to enjoy life. I always had to be up doing something and it didn't let me sleep or eat. The salts allows me to still focus when I absolutely need to and once it wears off, allows my brain to take the focus that I've been given and train my mind without it to continue with my day. Not to mention I eat, sleep, and most importantly, I do NOT abuse the drug. That's the key. Once you start abusing it, you take away the actual purpose for it.

Hope this helped.

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If u truly have add u wouldn't have to come off adderrall. As a diabetic doesn't stop taking insulin or whatever they have to have. U have a social disability that affects ur quality of life. Taking one every other day will do more harm than good. If u take adderrall that foggy unsure feeling u have when u start to do or say something no longer exists. You will be certain of ur goals and now have the ability to focus on solutions. Basically u won't be a scatterbrained nut. lol that's what my mom was until she took adderol. If u come off adderol u will get extremely tired and in ur case will feel 50x dumber. Give it a chance ur fear will likely vanish upon day 1. Write notes on how u feel what u like don't like etc and communicate those notes with ur doctor. Give it a chance u could be a diamond in the rough. I had no idea what potential I had all along. Thank u adderol

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Thanks, John. This is helpful and appreciated indeed.

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