Contrave And Suboxone (Page 2)
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I started today with my first dose of contrave, 1 pill in the AM. I also take suboxone 8mg (4 1 time a day). My doctor stated that the interaction of the two should be minimal..yeah NO! I got diarrhea, hot flashes, chills, body aches, and pretty much every withdrawal symptom known to man. I now dont want to take the contrave because I am not ready to stop the suboxone. Should I just stop the contrave and continue the sub? Or how should I go about this?

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I have been trying to get off Suboxone for a year. I have gotten down to 1/8th of a 2 mg strip daily. Question: Will Contrave help me to finally get off Suboxone for good? I also take 150 mg of Wellbutrin daily.

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Re: Dweeb (# 10)

So contrave has Wellbutrin in it? Is that what I'm understanding?

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Re: klb68 (# 52)

N where do u live???? I know n the state of Tennessee they no way n hell a Dr wud prescribe that much of a diet pill... I wanna move 2 ur state lol

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Re: Dweeb (# 9)

YES! I've heard Dr.'s even get this way wrong. The Noloxone in subs is inactive sublingually! It's NOT the same as Naltrexone which is highly absorbable via gastrointestinal tract. Noloxone on the other hand is in Subs to PREVENT THE MISUSE OF THE BUPE BY ACTIVATING IF OR WHEN INJECTED INTRAVENOUSLY. So, in short, the Noloxone added to suboxone is a safety feature/torture feature if you will to discourage and make impossible it's misuse unlike SUBUTEX or buperenorphrene itself. Again, even doctors get these two similar yet different ingredients confused. Again, Noloxone is essentially Inert in its Sublingual form. NALTREXONE oth is nearly completely absorbable via the digestive tract. Not this, I do t know how this misinformation can be so pervasive considering the extra DEA license to Rx suboxone, but whadyagonnado?

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Re: Susie (# 6)

They r totally 2 different drugs!!!!! They are not the same meds...it looks like they are but they truly arnt...

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Re: SuckaPlease (# 55)

And by ”my opioid receptor” you mean mu? Like the Greek letter that pretty much is equivalent to the our alphabet’s “m” or the first letter of “morphine”? Mu opioid receptor not your opioid receptor? Don’t correct folks unless you come correct SUCKA lmao but yea bens post about weight loss isn’t helping people who are trying to avoid medicine interaction here

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Re: Ben (# 54)

Are you on a stimulant? That wall of text doe! Lmao this is a thread on the contraindications between MOR (my opioid receptor) agonists and antagonists. Thanks for the confessional.. honestly didn’t read it because when people need to be that long winded they’re usually not sure that what they’re saying is accurate. Condense and repost? I don’t wanna get lost thinking “what’s this guy on about?” and would appreciate some clarity as to what your ramble (pls don’t get butthurt .. u know u rambled) means in the context of the contraindicated medications? Let’s help people not just please ourselves w comment rants lmao ... oh I guess this could be a rant too? Aren’t we funny lil hypocritical things when we get to feelin prideful?

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Re: Di (# 8)

When I was a server in 2006 and I worked with 3 people that used to be addicted to pain pills. All 3 went on suboxone and all 3 lost a good amount of weight. Then I changed restaurants and some guy brought up suboxone and tells me he takes a very small amount. A "sliver" he calls it. He said he started to think much clearer and lost a good amount of weight as well. So I tried it and had the same results. This was back in 2012. The longest I was on it was 4 months I think and I felt ABSOLUTELY lethargic, scared, nervous, and shy (relatively speaking). So I went to the internet did my research, and realized this was it. One or the other.

My history: I was in a major car accident in which I fractured/dislocated T-9, T-10 of my vertebrae. Miraculously I retained functionality of my legs because my spinal cord remained intact. In this particular governmental webpage, it states retaining the use of your legs while surfing this life of injury is "frighteningly rare." I was well aware of pain pills and how they are very addictive, lead to abuse, and kicking the habit is very difficult. I noticed it numbed my emotional pain. That is the reason people abuse opioids. It numbs their emotional pain. In my case, I KNEW I was a likely candidate to be on suboxone because I knew I had the POTENTIAL to abuse opioids. So I weighed the pros and cons, went with the sliver of suboxone for confidence and weight loss...back I. 2012.

The reason one loses weight is because it curbs OTHER addictions as well. (These statements are my observations and theories.) The clearer head you get from it, the more confidence you get from the effects of the drug. With this boost in confidence one doesn't feel the need for emotional eating. The "sugar therapy" isn't needed. The "sex" therapy isn't needed. The "alcohol" therapy isn't needed. Does the drug curb the appetite for these things or does the confidence you get from it make you skip the emotional healing you used to get from these "vices"....after you get over the side effects at the beginning, a similar experience one goes through with not only every other drug, but with EVERY rehabilitation program, it gets worse before it gets better.

In my particular case, I skipped over the opioid addiction part. And all the other vices, I noticed, weren't needed as much. Since then, I DEFINITELY fought the stigma of being a suboxone user. About that stigma: There are two kinds of people on this earth....

1. Those that have endured traumatic situations, suffered the symptoms of PTSD, let it take its course, recovered (NOT FULLY) and moved on.

2. And those that HAVEN'T experienced traumas.

I theorize that there is DEFINITELY is a qualification of traumas, but it has to do with factors such as mindset, upbringing, details of the trauma, age the trauma happened, (most overlooked: TRAUMAS before age 3), support system, and this one:

TOTAL NUMBER OF TRAUMATIC EVENTS

So why doesn't everyone use opioids or contrave or whatever....the others that say, pain pills....."it just makes ME sleepy." Ok. Well, I'm willing to bet you haven't experienced emotional or physical traumas. This is what PTSD does. It puts a stamp on your nerves to remind you to be more cautious in the future. That stamp is a superpower, but most don't only know that THEY think differently and they don't want to think differently. I've endured 10-15 emotional and physical traumas. With my Christianity indoctrination I knew I'd make it, but things started getting tough when I lost my job, lost my brother, lost a coworker, and the total change of our political system I started to REALLY feel cracks in my mentality. I REALLY noticed how fake the NFL was this year and I researched it and this REALLY defined the superpower traumatic victims have hyper-observant tendencies. Now, if I may explain my theory UP to this point. Those that have experienced traumas say they are more "anxious" after their trauma. They hook right into this buzz word, anxiety and already feel defeated.

If you are reading this and can relate, please look up the meaning of the word "vigilant". It means, "always on the lookout for the next problem." This can be empowering while anxiety can be draining. The word vigilant is used in the word vigilante...aka superheroes, in the right context. So, those fighting back traumas, pain pill addictions, and anxiety and confusion, start here - Source: "12 Ways Hyper Observant People Interact with the World Differently". puckermob.com. Web.

Now in no way, shape or form is hyper-observant or anything I say here backed by anything (other than the articles I posted) this is all my observations and life's "detective work" I put together. Here is one more article: Traumatic effects on the brain. From a governmental website again...as you will see, with each trauma your memory is promoted, but your learning (pre-frontal cortex) is harder. Your ability to absorb info becomes more difficult.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3181836

I call it being in "record mode". My memory has been described as "super-human". The memories were MOSTLY emotional. Events or situations that made an impression on me. {edited for privacy}.

I totally forgot what I was replying to... Oh, I know. The sugar craving. Try to investigate that feeling some more. Maybe go up a little in the suboxone dose you take one day, (if you can). You'll notice your craving for emotional eating will be curbed. Also, one's libido, which can be an equally good or bad thing will be more in control. You can and will get over this the longer you are on either suboxone or contrave...the same way you can get over the curbing of the food and sugar appetite. Thanks for your attention.

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Re: Mandy (# 49)

because they don't know anything about addiction. plain and simple.

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Stop the Contrave!! I went through the same experience that you are going through. The suboxone is a more vital medication to me than a Diet Pill. I have tried every diet pill out there and the one that seems to work best with suboxone is Phendimetrazine Tartrate. I am taking 35mg tablets 3x a day. I promise it is much better!

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Re: Mandy (# 49)

For the same reason there is so much confusion within this thread.

The words look alike and we’re humans... seems like another case for automation/AI, but seriously prescribing a mu opioid receptor ANTagonist (naltrexone via contrave) with a mu opioid receptor partial agonist (buprenorphine in subs) is absolutely wild. Like I know people with 2-year certificates that would’ve caught that and with all our innovation you’d think we could create a database of contraindicated medications. You know just in case reading the active ingredient becomes too much of a chore.

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Re: brandi (# 46)

No! Do not take these together, as it will put u into precipitated withdrawal! I did this -terrible! I even had seizures - felt terrible for 12 hours - do not, I repeat, do not take contrave and suboxone together!

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Why would my doctor give me contrave and suboxone to take at the same time?

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Re: Pay attention to labels (# 41)

I realize there are 2 medications in Suboxone. And people, Suboxone IS Listed as an Opioid. People say it won't turn up in a U/A, but it will as an Opioid. I don't want to say anything bad about Suboxone, it did help me for about 2yrs. I started on 4 strips a day then I worked my way down to 2 a day. But now, when I tried to get OFF it I weighed 115lbs. (5) FIVE days later I weighed 99lbs. I truly thought I was going to DIE. So my point is, WHY do these people keep coming up with drugs to replace pain meds and the drugs they are coming up with are BY FAR WORSE than the ones we started with? I just don't get it...

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Re: Ang (# 43)

I wish people would stop saying that they are not the same meds. The bottom line is that they come from the same FAMILY. They would never have been able to make one w/o the other. They come from the same FAMILY of drugs. They are just in different forms of the same derivative, meaning they would have never come to the conclusion to put a form of this medication in a DIET PILL. Hell if that's the case, why don't they just hand out Methadone to people who are struggling with weight issues. Suboxone is the DEVIL. These People think it's ok to give someone something that's not been studied long enough. Truth is that Vicodin / Hydrocodone are WAY better for you. They are 2 drugs in them that we have known about for 100yrs. But now they keep saying the opioid epidemic is way outta control. People, it's outta control because of ALL these Dr.s who were told it was ok to prescribe pain meds to those who Really Need it. NOT....the reason the opioid epidemic is on the rise is because people can't get their meds they've been taking for YEARS, so guess what now they are turning to illicit drugs, etc.. I want to know how they can compare people who OD on illicit drugs, to the person who goes to the Dr. monthly and gets their prescriptions legally. That doesn't seem fair to the people who actually take their medication as directed.

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Re: Christine (# 17)

Can I take subutex with the Contrave? The suboxone with it made me very sick. I even went to the emergency room.

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Jorge

How long does the Contrave last? The withdrawal if you mix with subutex or lexapro??

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Re: Big country (# 32)

Omg! I did this yesterday around 11am. I ran out of Wellbutrin and thought I would take contrave instead since it has Wellbutrin in it-i take 16 mg suboxone strips daily. Bad idea! Had seizures all day long (have never had a seizure in my life) terrifying. Sooooo sick. Still feel pretty crappy. I did take 16 mg of suboxone at 3pm and it helped a little. Still feel terrible today but much better than yesterday. Went ahead and took my regular dose of sub this am at 5. Please pay attention this is so dangerous!

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The two drug sound the same but they're not, look carefully at the two names they look similar but they're not the same drugs at all. The reason I know this is because the reason I got to this thread is because I thought it looked the same too, as soon as I Googled it I realize they were two different drugs with two different drugs in each pill.

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Re: Ecorrell (# 3)

Because they both have a blocker and they cancel each other out

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