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I am going to get my cdl class a licenses... Will suboxone I took two weeks ago show up in my screening? They send it to a lab

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Can a CMV driver be disqualified for using a legally prescribed drug?

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Although the driver has a legal prescription, he/she may be disqualified if the medication could adversely affect the driver's ability to drive a CMV safely.

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Dont listen to these people suboxone takes 30+ days to get out your system. it will not make u test positive for opiates. they have to test soecifically for the bup in suboxone. theres alot of 12 panel tests and they dont all check for the same 12 drugs so its kind of an impossible ?. if you know what drugs they test for and buprenorphine isnt 1 of them you'll pass 100%. if anybody here took a 12 panel to get their license back in michigan and passed while on suboxone please let me know where you went for the substance abuse evaluation

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This very same question has been asked several times throughout this thread's long life. When you decide to forgo actually Reading the thread, you're basically telling people "hey, I'm too lazy to read through this whole thing but could you take some of your time to do my work for me and then give me the answer for free?" Just thought I'd point that out.

A 5 panel drug test means that only 5 drugs classes are being tested for. Those drugs are generally THC, Cocaine, Amphetamines, Opioids, PCP.

Many drugs are close relatives of very different drugs. Amphet test will pop you dirty for Methamphetamine and MDMA at the same time. But you could also be called a Methamphetamine-head if you forgot that you took one of your buddy's adderall 2 days ago to help you stay up and study for a test. Similarly, you might be called a heroin junkie if you take a Vicoden as both pop dirty as Opioids. Your test will ONLY differentiate between these alike kinds of drugs if your urine is forwarded to have complete lab work done on it. Some test facilities only request full lab work in the case of your urine testing dirty during the initial Test Strip (similar to an at home pregnancy test). Other facilities will give you AND your employer/potential employer the preliminary test results in the case of your urine came up clean according to the Test Strip method then they will forward the specimen to a lab for complete labwork to be done also. If later they find something, they can update you and the employer. It will be difficult for you to know which version of that will apply to your test. However, the more tests that are requested the more expensive the drug test becomes. Every single test they are asked to perform will raise the cost of the test. For this reason, they will never test for extra things such as male vs female urine or human vs canine urine or pregnancy hormone test. Yes you can substitute your dog's pee and that will work! Only, just hope the dog hasn't pulled a cheech n chong and ate some of your stash. LOL! Just follow him/her around with a soup ladle, trust me it works.

Now, the question of Buprenorphine showing up on the test is confusing because YES..... It is true that it is an opioid. However, it is made in a completely different way. It is made by somehow converting the opiate-stimulant.

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I am taking a pre-hired for a company will Subutex show up on a DOT hair drug test. And I go on the 28th of this month

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I am a DOT CST (drug screen)collector and they do check for all opiates. Hydrocodone included.

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if u get prescribed suboxen from the doc.n if u don't take it, the Doc will notice in ur urine test. its a FACT

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..... if you're taking Subs, it is because you have issues with natural production of Endorphins due to some form of opioid replacement. Whether you were given pain medicine for an injury or simply became addicted due to purposely abusing opioids for a high the effect is the same. For a period of time after stopping an opioid the body will not produce the required endorphins (and more) which allow a person to function normally. Once the withdrawal period has ended, the person can go back to regular life (with some lasting effects such as years of insomnia for examp). The individual is very likely to experience cravings and relapse rate is HIGH! If you're taking subs you want to re-think any career which is going to require you to drop the medication. Sure it can be done..... but have you tried quitting subs yet? Do you think it's smart to be like "well hey, I'm clean now. I used to have a problem with oxy and heroin but with suboxone I was able to stop all that. Now I am a normal regular person who goes to work every day. Now I that I feel great about myself (thanks to the help of suboxone) and I no longer need oxy/heroin, I'm going to enter a career which requires 3 or 4 times per month drug testing."

One of the most common effects of Suboxone is it's Amazing ability to take a dope fiend who is completely unhirable or unfriendable and within 1 day of taking the medication the user begins to feel "Normal." After only a week or two of taking Subs, it is NOT uncommon for the user to actually believe that they are cured. It feels like they are cured. They act Cured. Their finances seem cured. They seem hireable. Now, lets say the user loses his pills one month..... loses ALL of them. Doctors are often weary about replacing lost/stolen Bupe. What happens to the user? They regress to being sick in withdrawal and their mind has ZERO chance of ignoring the possibility of using Oxy/Heroin to remove the withdrawal symptoms.

Don't let the Bupe trick you to thinking you're normal. Don't try to start a career (especially if it costs money for school or start-up) which is going to come to a GRINDING HAULT once you have 1 mistake on a drug test.

Look at another job. Maybe in 5 to 7 years after getting off Bupe/subs then you could handle being a DOT driver. Don't be one of those people who are like "i can do this. i have will power. I'm stronger than you. I can prove it to myself." and remember the only person who cares about your career is you (and maybe your dependents). Before you try to make a decision that could affect your family's income...... ask yourself: have i tried to quit bupe for even 1 year? have you tried it for 6mo? have you tried to quit for 1 month?

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I BEEN DRIVING FOR YEARS ON ALL KINDS OF S*** I LOVE MY SUBS & THEY NEVER SHOW UP ON MY DOT DRUG TESTS ! pERSONALY I LIKE TO SMOKE A LITTLE WEED BEFORE DRIVING THEN GET A ME A 40 OZ AND TURN UP THE AC/DC FULL BLAST THEN I PEDAL TO THE MEDAL LOOKIN OUT FOR SMOKIES. Well I goto go I got a lot lizard knocking on the door $10 bj time

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The FMCSA medical certification process is designed to ensure drivers are physically qualified to operate commercial vehicles safely. Each driver is required to complete the Health History section on the first page of the examination report and certify that the responses are complete and true. The driver must also certify that he/she understands that inaccurate, false or misleading information may invalidate the examination and medical examiner's certificate.
FMCSA relies on the medical examiner's clinical judgment to decide whether additional information should be obtained from the driver's treating physician. Deliberate omission or falsification of information may invalidate the examination and any certificate issued based on it. A civil penalty may also be levied against the driver under 49 U.S.C. 521(b)(2)(b), either for making a false statement of for concealing a disqualifying condition.

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I know this is from quite some time ago but I wanted to post a current answer in case some drivers come looking and the information posted below, was right during that time it no longer is true.

Bupe, the main ingredient in Suboxone and Subutex, is easily tested for now, it is steadily becoming more common in court, probation, welfare and yes DOT does test for it. Another FYI is that until awhile back I had never seen an immediate ten panel UA test for it, it was always sent to the lab. I went to court, fines review no probation, drug court etc. For whatever random reason I was given a drug test. ..the fact I believe it's a violation of my privacy to have to pee in a cup in front of people because I owe you a couple hundred dollars is a whole other topic that I believe definitely needs discussed. But back on point here lol! I pee in my cup, get a weird look from the lady reading the results and am taken back in the courtroom where the judge starts berating me about what this positive for bupe is...he didn't even know what it was, I believe the new tests were new. Long story short, I was actually told by the judge that he was going to have a bailiff drive me home to prove I was prescribed it! Mk well I had it on me so now awkward car ride was needed. But yup it was a ten or twelve panel standard test and the result for bupe was between opiates and cocaine. Point if that whole tirade is it's obviously not only detectable under request and at an expense. And yes DOT does test for it, I've worked for Conway and you'll be told to either stop taking it, for liability reasons, or find a different job. Most opt for the first choice. The same has been true for the few others I've spoken to who are honest about taking it. Their company gave the same option ...it is after all an opiate and they do have side effects recorded by the FDA and no company, big or small, wants a lawsuit on their hands when you get in an accident. Not saying you would, or not but ya!

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There are two more posts that need reviewed. So as I've gotton tired of being called a liar because when I answer someone's questions I get called a liar for not giving the answer they WANT to hear. These should clear it up, these answers can easily be certified and were taken, directly from the FMCSA website.

Good luck...

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Look the yayhoos below that haven't had a physical in a year or haven't experienced what I have due to formalities or new procedures are saying they don't. However I assist in the screening process at Conway Freight, we're the leader in LTL logistics and our drivers are tested, just as DOT screening and for our own standards too. They most certainly test for suboxone. Our drivers who take this or any other drug listed as having ANY adverse reactions that could alter your conscious state or likewise, it's use is strictly prohibited. This goes for narcotic and non narcotic, I've seen drivers have to quit because it came to a choice between heart meds and living or their job. Obviously how DOT and your employer will view this is good riddance, you'll create a liability to them and open the gates for lawsuits if ten years from now you get in accident and are found to be under the influence of anything, prescribed or not.

The drivers I know who were prescribed suboxone were given the same ultimatum, either keep using it for their needs, pain or addiction, and find another career elsewhere or stop taking it and continue work. The drivers I know opted for the later, they're prescribed for pain, very minimal dosages, and suffer through the day but for one especially it is much too late in life to switch careers, especially so close to retirement.

Its unfortunate that it has to be this way but as explained there's a legitimate reason for it. Perhaps you could use sboxone for a short weaning process that lasts only several weeks or months instead of the years it can take. If your addiction was rather light compared to most it can be very successful this way and I've heard it's much easier to quit when taken short term as compared to the years some docs prefer.

I'm on my 21st month now and I feel I could've quit much easier if I'd done it say within 2-4 months. What's your personal usage etc?

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I'm prescribed suboxone, I'm well aware of the chemical compounds that make it up.

I am giving my personal experiences in our company, I now work for a F500 LTL, in human resources and you are tested for every drug under the sun. If you do not provide a complete medical disclosure now you will be terminated in the future, whether weeks or years later and subject to liabilities.

If your not tested at your local occupational, you will be soon. Just a matter of formalities. Good luck with all this, the truth becomes evident when it's staring you in the face, sooner or later.

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Drug tests that are only say 5 panel will test by drug CLASS: benzos (valium etc..), opiates (suboxone, vicodin etc...) Marijuana, cocaine etc... Most tests now days are a 12 panel. What this means for you is that say you are prescribed suboxone - you can just show the prescription label to the tester (unless you do not want them to know). If you are not prescribed and you took suboxone - wait 5-6 days. After 5 - 6 days it will be out of your system. Now, every drug is different. Google: "how long do drugs stay in urine ?" there are many websites that will let you know how long. I do know that vicodin is 3-5 and suboxone is 3 -5 days. Remember the time is different for everyone. It depends on body mass - how much fat on your body, amount of water you drink, metabolism. Go with the safest and longest time.

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