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What Exactly Does Suboxone Do? Is It Addicitive? (Page 2)
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K Says:
i have a friend who desperately wants to get off of methadone and pain pills. will suboxone work? is it addicitive too? if someone can please help me that would be great! also is it very expensive, that's what i've heard.
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To Asking:
Your family doctor may not be able to give you Sub. only certaing doctors can. Check the list by going on Suboxone.com. And there should be patient confidentiality via HIPPA laws that would protect you. Not all docs can prescribe Sub, Good luck
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JMI Says:
Hey has anyone heard about have themselves used suboxone for beating withdrawl from between 8-15 Lorcet a day, VERy short term? Like 2 or 3 8mg pills of Suboxone? Quite a few friends of mine are on them, so I have access to them w/o the doctor. I don't have the cash to drop on a full suboxone treatment plan right now so I'm looking for a cheap quick fix. Anyone with any advise would be much appreciated. Thanks
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recovering addict Says:
i used to take 10, 80mg oxycontin;s a day i snoted them i was addicted really bad. i robbed people stole money from people and even robbed a pharmacy I went to prison for 3 years for it. the thing that got me clean was prison i have no cravings or anything so i am gratefull that i got arrested.
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joey Says:
HA funny u ask. I just came off 110 mlg of Meth and I started the suboxone. It sucks the suboxone don’t really work that good honestly I don’t even feel it. It’s hard very hard you got to want it. By far the hardest thing i ever kicked. Meth hits a lot of receptors and suboxone don’t hit all the receptors the meth is used to so Ur gonna feel it. OMG if I could only put what i went though in words. NOT trying to scare u but u will build so much understanding to the truth behind meth. It’s an ugly beast. I really wish who ever reads this the best of luck member ur addiction didn’t happen overnight so coming off wont either and only the strong survive. Stay strong an ask the lord for the strength. Believe! its possible people do it every day. Oh an i take for 8 mlg. pills of soboxone a day and the cash value for the script is $830 a month...... Ur gonna need insurance! Best of luck...
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JohnK Says:
I am a little amazed that Suboxone is used long term. in late 2006, my wife was prescribed Suboxone as a detox for 8 500mg Vicoden and 8-10 2mg Ativan daily. The treatment was very very quick and lasted about a week or so even cutting back on suboxone after a few days. It helped only slightly with pain but ruined her mental health to the point where she took her life about 2 months later. Everone, even other doctors said this was too fast, but said the doctor was a specalist & should know. Wish I could sue his knoweledgeable tail !!!
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Bay Recovery Says:
We have treated a number of patients with suboxone and have had amazing results. If you have any questions about treatment or would like more information about our center search bay recovery
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t bone Says:
everytime i use a suboxin it makes me feel 10 times worse i think im one of the ones that its not made for
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starbuckgirl Says:
my doctor put me on suboxone treatment. to help me get off my opiates. i also have been taking clonazopane for years, but only take very small dosage. but after reading all the comments on here, its sounds like that could be deadly.... a bit confused
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cleaner13 Says:
I need help right away I am prescribed to but at the same time abuse, oxycodone 30 mg every day i take about 15-20 roughly 600 mg a day of opiats. I was taking it initially for a herneated disk I could not stop just because if i did i would get really sick and was not able to deal with that my business could not afford me to take off so I took it to keep me going and give me energy I promised myself i would stop once the business was sold so here I am now I was prescribed to suboxone and have attempted to take it but i had a very sick reaction all of a sudden i started getting woozy,chills were running up and down my spine i had the sweats and diarrahea it was an unbearable feeling worse than withdrawal coldturkey i had to take about 300 mg of oxycodone to partially counteract the effect of suboxone I don't ever want to feel like that again does any one have any alternate solution beside suboxone I cannot bear getting sick and feeling this way it has affected my life to the max I would like to be normal again......ANYONE PLEASE ANY ADVICE OR SOLUTION EVEN A REHAB PROGRAM
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nancy Says:
My son's choice of drug was heroin. I took him to the hospital and he entered a detox withdrawal program. He is now in program for 3 weeks and on suboxone. However, he told me he still gets cravings and hates that feeling. He expressed to me because of that feeling his cravings seem more. He told me his muscles hurt and so does his back. Any suggestions on how to get his body back to feeling good and not have a weak feeling? What can he do to feel good about himself? What other programs can he do to keep himself involved? I've told him to lean on me and we talk about God all the time. Please give me some ideas what can be done to calm those cravings and get his body and mind back to feeling good again.
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Pat Says:
I agree that suboxone can work wonders for some opiate addicts, but not for all. First off stop with the trying to scare people to not use methadone. Linda, what kind of cravings does methadone give you?? Methadone stopped all of my cravings for opiates, so please no false BS.. Suboxone is also an opiate, and yes I was on it b4 it was even being used in the US, I was on one of the first trials, and it did not work for me.And it made me high..Not like heroin, but I did catch a buzz..Methadone however gives me no high at all,Dusty, what State do you live in where you have to answer questions on your DL test?? That is against the law where I live (Ca) and Carrie, I am glad that NA works for you but methadone is not liquid handcuffs unless you can't give clean UA'sI go in once a week, and if I go on vacation there is no problem to get as many extra bottles as I need. It is so funny how I can tell where people are comimg from just with their BS. Truth is Suboxone works for people with mild opiate addictions, but for street junkies, it is a totally different story..Maybe it can work for some junkies, but it is rare, And t o the person that said a patient may have to be on methadone 4 ever..That isn't a horrible thing for most of us, for me the alternative is shooting heroin, and you can give me methadone over heroin anyday. I don't mind going to the clinic once a week, and I have never waited in a line. I go in say hi to the doctor, get my dose, my take homes, talk to my counselor once a month and that is it..1 1/2 hour a month is not liquid handcuffs. Stealing, screwing men, writing hot checks, and doing anything else for a fix, that is handcuffs.....NA that is handcuffs...But that is me. and that is what recovery is all about..What works for that certain person..Not what works for Carrie or Dusty or Linda..But this is about the OP
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Pimas Says:
Pimas here, Dr prescribed Morphine for pain has me worried. 24hrs without was H___! I want to try Suboxone to withdraw from 150 to 180mg a day. 2-60mg SR and rest is 5mg tabs. Any one know if Medicare would cover? I am a 61yr old male and wonder if Suboxone sounds like it would work for me? I do not drink, but smoke some cigs.---DR--or--EXPERT--or--someone with the experence like I am facing ?? Thanks for taking time to read my post !
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Matty Says:
I have been Taking Suboxone for 2 weeks and from the bottom of my hart it DOES work!!!!! I was taking Oxycotin for an injuiery i had and was having a haed time getting off of it i was so scared or getting sick!!! I could not go to work or even get out of bed if i did not take the pain killer and i really had to do something!! A friend told me about the Suboxone and i got an Appoint.They started me on 1anHalf Suboxone a day. After just a few days i stared to take just one and now it has been 2 weeks and i am just about to start to take a 3rd of one and i am sure it will just keep going down from their!!!! The suboxone takes the sicknees away and i dont feel like i need to take a bunch of them their is No real High to Me but for some people it maybe harded to stop!!?? I really wanted off and i think Wantting it means more then people you have to put your life First and think that you will do what ever it takes to get off the pain killers!!! Suboxone has been the best thing to happen to me besides my wife and i will do everything i can to keep my wife and get off the pain killers!!! It is a bit expensive but some insureance companies cover it i am lucky mine has help me out i get 30 8mg suboxone at a time and it coast me 50$ but that is nothing if you are spending hunders of dollars a day on Oxycotin or what ever you might get from the street!!! So good luck to everyone that is trying to get off the pain killers and remember this you have to want it real bad for it to work the suboxone needs your help too work
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Matty Says:
i do be leave that suboxone will work but you have to want it to work!!!! If you think the suboxone will get you high and you can take it and and get off the drugs well your wrong!!! You can not have your cake and eat it too you have to really want it!! The suboxone will work and does a grate job at it too it has been 2 weeks that i have been taking it and i feel better then i have in years!! I was on oxycotin for a few years i spent ALOT of money and i had nothing to show for it but a Big Problem!! The people i thought were friends were not i still have people that want to give me oxycotin but i dont want it!!! I want to take the suboxone and get better i think in just a short few weeks i will be just taking a Half of one suboxone and down from their!! My doctor is grate and is really helping me out!!
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Pat Says:
JohnK, I am so very sorry about your wife. I am not a doctor so I can't tell you what to do, but what I do know is suboxone is useless against benzo Withdrawl. Please see an attorney about your doctor, I believe he/she didn''t work in the best interst of your wife. If you need to talk, let me know and I will give you my E Mail. I have had many friends and loved ones die from drugs....
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Pat Says:
T Bone, I can't take suboxone either. I am a heroin addict from an early age, I tried the suboxone and it made me very ill. I stuck with it for 2 weeks, then went on methadone maintenance and I have been clean since July 2, 2002. I have been on merthadone since Jan 2001, and I am doing great
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Pat Says:
To Bay Recovery Center..I think you should let these people know that suboxone works on opiates, it is useless against Benzos
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wool213 Says:
only a few of you seem to really know what you are talking about out there. suboxone is part opiate and part opiate blocker (so to speak) it only hits limited opiate receptors in your brain and will only hold you if you were on 30 mgs of methadone or less. the blocker part of suboxone will make you sick if you use any other opiates while on it.and mdone also has a blocking effect for other opiates its just that the dose of opiates to be blocked has to be equal to or less than the mgs of mdone you are on.
of course when you stop suboxone you will have withdrawl symptoms but if used correctly they should be mild compared to being dopesick or coming off of methadone cold turkey. now methadone and suboxone are both maintenence drugs and you need to be weened off of them. my girlfriend was super successfull getting off the mdone but me not so much, it seemed i was still using heroin while on methadone so i detoxed and went to suboxone. i detoxed for 3 days from mdone b4 they would give me any suboxone so i wouldnt feel the naxolone contradict the methadone since its a long acting opiate and tends to stay in you for a while. those of you who said you need to find the one that works for you are right, everyone is different. if you can handle going to a clinic everyday until the fed gvnmt aproves you for takehome mdone then do it esspecially if you take a high amount of opiates. if you have come down to 30mgs of mdone and want to get off quick use suboxone, i was always told by my mdone counselor that there is a safe way to get off methadone, and it is slow and diliberate. methadone has saved countless lives, and now suboxone will too if both are used proper. just remember to quit anything even cigs you have to want it and you have to work at it, somedays on the methadone i was sick to my stomach and others i was like a hundred bucks, same on the suboxone, some days will always be better than others. its all better than sticking a needle in my arm filled with whatever the gangbangers in chicago decided to cut dope with. most methadone clinics have some super understanding counselors that will help you find the right med for you so just look online and call them. the clinic i went to in downtown chicago was called C.A.P and they did both suboxone and mdone maintenence, but like the others said docs have to be specialized and can only prescribe to 100 patients, and my suboxone for 60 of em was 160 bux after insurence, 459.99 before, but medicaid will make it free to you. i hope this helps someone and people yea addiction sucks so if like me you ruined your life with heroin then just asking questions is the right step, find out which one will save yer life. and for all you who have been clean on here good for you, oh
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Pat Says:
Great post Wool..Thank you!!! You are right about tapering off of suboxone SLOWLY..When I was a test subject in Nov 2000, it made me sick the whole 2 weeks I was on it, so I walked off at the highest mg, I think it is 32 or 34 mg..I was fine for 2 days, then I remember it was a Sunday night I was talking on the phone and out of the blue I had full blown WD's. I tried everything to get well, vicodin, morphine tablets, and nothing..I had to go and shoot dope, and all it did was make the WD's a little easier to handle. Suboxone is also a very powerful drug, don't think it is a walk in the park...I also know what you mean about the stomach pain. When we are on methadone we get a stomach habit, and that sucks..I have never tapered off of methadone, and I don't plan too because until they find a cure for heroin addiction, methadone is the only thing that gives me a normal wonderful life. but I know many people who have gone down to 0mg, and if done slowly it isn't as horrible as some would have you think, My ex slowly detoxed (took him a year) and his clean date is Jan 1, 1997. He said he had a few weeks were he didn't sleep, and he caught a bad cold for the first time in years, but I saw him everyday, and he didn't suffer at all.....
Pat
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wool213 Says:
to pat. just out of curiosity do you take tablets or liquid? i went the liquid route (clear and you could hardly taste it with oj) and when i was being good and only taking mdone it worked wonders, but then i had to guest at another clinic while away from chi and they had the red methadone that had like some nasty cherry flavor in it. my god the taste made me sick all day. i never knew that mdone came in different flavors and the clear never bothered me, but this cherry crap made me puke my dose out a couple times yuk. it wasnt wd's or anything i mean the dose was the same it was just that awful taste. sorry i just thought it kinda funny and wanted to share.
and where did the phrase liquid handuffs come from, i think its kinda silly to say. it only takes a few clean drops to get a higher phase or level or takehome bottles whatever your clinic may call it ya know. people need to research more and judge less. you know i never had a cold while on methadone, i never thought about it till yer last post but yea i think it may be the cure for the common cold, lol sorry just being goofy, i like yer posts pat, congrats on being clean so long i hope i can get there too, is there any secret besides methadone that you know? im trying the na route and counseling along with the suboxone so hopefully i can stay clean this time, wish me luck...i mean strength......
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