Suboxone Abuse (Page 3)

My son has been on suboxone for over 1 year now. He was a herion addict for over 12 years. Been clean off and on during that time. I have seen a personality change in him which is almost intolerable. It is like he is fine one minute and then goes off the wall the next. Has anyone who has been on suboxon or knows someone who has been seen a personality change.

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Thank you for your encouragement. I always thought the ideal use of suboxone would be to give to the client who has decided to go away to Teen Challenge or another faith based program and often has a few days 'in the street' before they can get the bed in the destination program where they are headed. Cleaning up & clearing out....

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This is directed to everyone who is still bound by the chains of suboxone addiction. This is my story and I hope it can serve as an inspiration to at least one fellow addict. I am like most who got on suboxone, I was tired of chasing the high with oxycontin, oxycodone, you name it! I went through two years of highs and lows. One day I might have snorted 6 or more roxycodone 30's and then the next morning have nothing and struggle just to get up for work and go through the typical opiod withdrawals for a couple of days until I can somehow manage to get my fix. We addicts are a lot more clever than people give us credit for. Anyways, after two years of this addiction I finally made the decision to quit. Of course I wouldn't do it cold turkey. I was more scared of that than death. So I did what I though was the right thing and that was suboxone. I spent the next few months thinking I beat it, I was telling people that I was sober and the whole time I was becoming more and more addicted to subs. I didn't think it was a problem until the first time I ate all my subs and had to go 3 days without it. By the third day I literally wanted to die. The second half of my 1 year suboxone addiction involved lots of highs and lows. I knew it was becoming a problem and so did my wife. So we tried the taper. Of course it didn't work! I'm an addict! Well, a month ago I told myself that if I don't quit cold turkey I will never break this addiction that was ruining my life. Hardest 3 weeks of my life people. Pure agony, insomnia, sweating, chills, no appetite. And plenty and plenty of crying. Not to mention I nearly lost my job because I missed so many days and when I did go I was an a** hole. Nothing helped me. The first week I tried drinking and weed. I was on the verge of going to the hospital during the second week because I just couldn't sleep. My aunt gave me 2 ambion and said only take 1. I took two! Desperate for rest and looking for an escape from the agony I was going through. I slept all of 3 hours. Two ambion! 3 hours of sleep in a week. By the second week I was getting 8 hours of sleep spread out over 3 or 4 days. After 2 weeks of pure hell, the withdrawals were coming and going, still not sleeping but I could feel a hint of progress. It took 3 weeks but I got through it. I have never felt so proud of myself. I encourage everyone who is sick and tired of being sick and tired to quit cold turkey. It brings you to a state of mind that is unexplainable. I feel like a whole new man. This story is not intended to brag or boast, I am just a recovering opiod addict. Personally, reading blogs and seeing that people have done it is what got me through the last month. Prayer too of course. Remember people, exercise releases endorphins and endorphins will make you forget about the withdrawals. Even if it's for 10 minutes. Good luck to everyone and God bless. There is a naturally confident and happy person in all of us without pills.

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Good Luck James.... How sad you'll be when you get high again and realize all your suffering was for nothing and you'll have to do it again to quit. "I am an addict". I'm an addict too. 40 years. Heroin. Cold turkey withdrawal from Heroin is not too bad. Only lasts 24 hours or so and calm sets in. Only problem is you can't get enough energy to get out of bed for a month. Suboxone is a miracle drug. A single 2mg a day will give you energy to function normally. Depends how much money you want to spend. If you want to get seriously addicted to bandaids (Sub films), you can use 24mg a day too. My first suboxone clinic charged $21 for a 8/2 pill or film. I could get by on 2mg. Now, my shrink gives me a script for 35 8/2s every 2 weeks and they cost about $4 each at the pharmacy. When I'm not in the donut hole they're about $1.50 each.
I went online searching for a way to abuse suboxone. I was hoping to find something akin to mixing the bandaids with alcohol in a test tube and putting it into a centrifuge separating the bupe and the naloxone. So far only found na crap talk. Suboxone is wonderful. It allows you to go off and on Heroin without getting sick, but 2 of my 3 dealers are out of the picture and I can't get Heroin (100 year old brand name for a pain reliever marketed by Bayer) right now. Wish I could get high from oranges. Anybody???

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Hey search google with iv subs if you want. You'll find a what you're looking for, but just to let you know it's not even close to a dope high no matter what you do. I'm prescribed 2 8/2 sub films a day and alprazolam, but it still doesn't come close to a shot of dope. Subs have yet to prove that it's a "miracle drug". More like miracle money for drug companies.

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His just using you and the programs he is in to stay high. taking any benzodiazepine with soboxone has the same effect as doing herion and addicts know this. Soboxone is sold by drug dealers and its not to get clean with.

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I do see how that Debbie character feels about how Subs are jst another high or addiction for people but this girl with the sis who are on Subs hit the nail on the head!!!Girl u couldnt hve said it better. YES I am on Subs and YES they are just another drug to struggle to get off of. I think people defend it so much because they WANT 2 be on them as well. Dont get me wrong, my life has changed considerably 4 the good but since Ive been on Subs, but lets keep it real here people!U all knw good and well that when we attempt 2 get completley off this medicine, its gonna b just like kicking the pill or heroin addiction we're trying to beat from the start with.How do I know?Because my black ass has already tried it after being on it for far 2 long.

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Catherine, yes it is completley normal to be depressed when you're not usin suboxone...

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Yes all suboxone is for Is for addicts who are either trying to please someone else or wanting to get a legal form of there drug of choice! If they really wanted to be clean they would detox in an in-house rehab treatment center.... Addicts manipulate there way out of every situation that Involves them being without there drugs! It is sickening that our own children's teachers are on this crap and methadone and are allowed to keep there jobs! Unbelievable.........

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Julie,
no its not how you act on subs. In fact the subs take away every single symptom that you're describing she has

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THERESA!
now why in the hell wud u wanna know that?!?dam!what are u tryin to do,kill urself?Go ahead and try it and then you'll know for sure....

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JOHNNY,
that was a helluva thing to say to someone who has at the very least attempted to, and succeeded @ quitting his habit cold turkey.I dont give a d*mn if he quit for just one day!The fact of the matter is that he quit so who are you to hate on that man and tell him that he's going to b wantin it again in a month & that what he did was in vain. Dont even try to give me that BS that I don't know what im talking abt bc i havnt gone thru addiction. Ive been addicted to opiates for 12 long years and am now on subs(2 8/2 a day,sometimes 1) & im soo lookin for a way to get off or taper or something.if that man did his cold turkey, then thats him and i commend him for it. You need to be worried abt how you're gonna kick this sub habit when its time for ur ass to wein off just like ive gotta do. But whatever you do, don't sit up here and knock that man for doing his the TRUE way just bc your *ss cant handle doing it that way..DONT HATE...THAT SH*T IS FOR THE BIRDS!!

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My daughter has just started this suboxone, she is under the care of a doctor. BUT, I have seen the personality changes and they are horrible. I don't think this is any better than being on any opiate, except it is supervised by a physician.

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They do use suboxone to treat chronic pain now days. They use methadone also. It does have opiate in it, but also naloxone that blocks regular opiates.

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Suboxone is NOT a scam. I have used it to get off opiates. It is NOT intended to replace another drug but only to lesson the severity of withdrawals. THEN it is to be tapered off and stopped. IT WORKS. I know. If one follows the prodical properly then it works. Anyone can abuse practically anything, but if one follows directions and uses it only as a life boat to get across that terrible, raging river called withdrawals THEN one can taper off and stop. EVERYTHING. THEN...one must make the choice to stay clean. No medicine or program can replace one's choices. There's no majic bullets. It's ALL about the choices we make. Does one choose to use it correctly? Or incorrectly?
Dave

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Can Suboxone be used for alcohol abuse? I have been a drinker for several years and have relapsed time to time. I have three small children and relay would like to sober up. It’s hard to be committed to AA meetings 100% with a full time job & kids to take care of. Your advice would be helpful.

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Rachel Z:
Am I naive and/or is my case unique? I've been on a suboxone program in Wisconsin and it's been a life saver. I've not abused it and have reduced my dosage to where I'm only taking .5mg a day, have avoided relapse and feel as healthy as I've ever felt.

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Was drinking your problem?

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No,
Serious abuse of Vicodin. The one and only drug of choice. Had knee surgery, used it initially for pain and then wound up taking 20-25 pills a day.

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I became addicted to oxycodone after 6 surgeries on my knees and shoulder (all sports related injuries) over 5 years. Once the scripts from the doctor stopped, the pills didn't. I was paying from $17-$25 per 30mg oxycodone pill. Insanity, but at the time I somehow justified it becaue I was so far from reality and basically got to a point where I need about 300mg a day to function. Withdrawals were nightmares, but unfortunately I had no problem getting my pills each week because they were very easily accessible from the dealers I knew. I hit rock bottom financially, almost lost my wife who I had kept in the dark about my buying pills. I went to a psychiatric doctor who works with suboxone last summer, and that day marked the beginning of a simply AMAZING transformation for good in my life. I still today take exactly as prescribed: 8mg in the morning at 7am and a half pill 4mg at night before bed about 9pm. Since last summer, I've gotten promoted at work, paid off all my debts I had created wasting money (about $30k worth) have all my monthly bills up to date, and even have a savings account of $10k (haven't had a savings since 2006!).
On suboxone, I don't feel high at all and I'm functioning at a higher mental level than ever. I will eventually be taken off the suboxone but only when I'm ready! The point I'm trying to make here is this: you have to WANT to be clean... Set goals for yourself, personally and financially, and make that your new addiction! An addict will always be an addict. Just point it in the right direction and you will be the BEST at whatever you point it towards. And for suboxone??? If you take it exactly as your doctor prescribes it, and you don't lie to your doctor or lie to yourself about how you're really taking it... Then you will never have a bad experience with it. Fact, not opinion! :). Be strong everyone and God bless.

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i go to sea-hab nothing like a three or four month brutal grind in the bering sea to clean the ol' system am i just dead beat tired throughly ass kicked from work or dope sick ? beats me lol

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