Percocet/oxycodone M523 10/325 (Top voted first)
UpdatedHello all,
First off I'm new to posting here and I must admit this is probably a topic that is quite frequent and I have done days searching but can't seem to really find any info on my specific situation. I apologize in advance for the long post but I will introduce myself and situation.
I've been on oxycodone 10/325 for a little over a year now from a botched foot surgery and diabetic neuropathy in this same foot. It helps tremendously and seems to be the only relief I can get is from taking these. Whether its first thing in the morning to be able to stand up and get moving or whether it's to let me settle down and drift off to sleep which is something fairly hard to do. I also was recently diagnosed with PTSD from my job and I am currently out of work for this. It is not fun. The oxycodone also seems to just ease my mind as well as my pain and its honestly the only thing I've taken that helps with both.
I am under the care of a pain management doctor which I've been seeing since August 2015. My script is 90 for 30 days (3 a day). I try my best to stick to this as it is the dosage I'm required to abide by.. But at times I find myself taking 1-2 more a day than the normal 3 a day I'm supposed to take. Thus, resulting in my script "running out" early. So I turn to other means and each time it's usually something different. Nothing other than oxy but just different milligrams (sometimes 5s) and most of the time it's different manufacturers (sometimes it's pink only oxy no acetaminophen, sometimes yellow Vs and sometimes white IPs).
This last time I was given white ones with m523 on one side and 10/325 on the other. I became suspicious right away. After further examining them they also look rather "beat up" almost as if they were in someone's pocket for 2-3 days or drug across the ground. All the writing on them is lined up properly on each one and well centered. They seem very light weight. Almost like a hollow capsule would feel. Very chalky looking although there is a slight glaze on them in the light but nothing like the glaze that mine from the pharmacy have on them. And also you can very easily "chip" the pill with your fingernail and easily rub off the writing with your fingernail as well. And they dissolve into a chalky paste very quickly almost instantly as soon as they hit your tongue.
Which leads me to the next point.. Yes, I did take one. I noticed nothing different than normal for the first 20-30 minutes which is usually when the rush hits me. It felt like oxy. It was very short lived. All feeling was gone well within the hour and I was left extremely thirsty with an odd dry taste in my mouth and a dull but worsening pressure headache in the back of my head. Felt kind of odd. Not as I usually feel anyway. Kind of dizzy and couldn't really focus or bring myself to do anything. Was very sleepy actually and I felt as if I may throw up.
Anyways, this was my experience in a nutshell. I know a press for this particular pill can be purchased on on the internet for 150 bucks. I'm really on the edge about these. I feel like it could go either way I guess but I'm still suspicious. Like I said, I definitely got the "oxy Rush" that I'm so used to.. But is this something that can also be achieved with someone cutting these pills with fentanyl or xanxax or something else?? Im not taking anymore. I know the above aforementioned can easily kill and that's not something I'm going to play around with. Well I guess I covered everything that I wanted to cover.. And I do have pictures of these if you can even post them here and if I can figure out how.
Yes my brother was dispensed these pills he was suspicious as well. Although I broke the pill in half and it compared it to a different brand..they both had little crystals in them which made it seemed real BUT take a look at the the 10/325 side is it a "1" or a "l"??
Exactly the post I was expecting and why I did not want to post here to begin with. But I did anyway and am now being scorned. Have nothing better to do? Don't you think if there were "20 threads here" asking the same question then perhaps I would not have posted asking mine? Do you scorn the other 20 posters as well? I mean come on now. What's the point in even posting something like that? Are you supposed to be my new doctor now? New therapist? Am I supposed to bow down to you because you know all the answers? Did you even read the thread? I said I could not find an answer to my specific question.. Otherwise I would not have posted. It's not rocket science. I come here asking a question and I guess I found it. Really who knows right? In my original post which was apparently edited out I stated that my doctor is not ready to "up my script" after immense discussion with them. But I guess you can up it now being my new doctor, right? I also clearly stated that i will NOT take any more of these. And who are you to judge whether or whether not I have "true" chronic pain? Don't hide behind that bs. Do you even know what chronic pain is?
And believe me.. You're not lecturing me. So please don't flatter yourself with that. You say if I'm honest with my doctor about my habit?? So forget about the medical problems, right? Then you say that it's tough to get already due to it being so regulated because of abusers. Perhaps this is why I do what I have to do sometimes. You contradict yourself there. If only you knew. You have no idea what I have wrong with me medically and what I go through. And how many doctors I have seen and still see on a monthly basis for my conditions which I cannot help and are unwanted but unfortunately I have them. I'm not "doctor shopping for pills" either. I have many accompanying conditions. What boggles me is the ignorance you have. I appreciate your judgemental reply though.
Put the pill in your mouth if it straight desolvses into a chalk like substance its fake. If you bight it in three little pieces and let it sit in your mouth for five six seconds and if all the pieces are still solid " keep in mind that there going to be a little smaller pieces because your spit is starting to desolve them" but they don't besolve all the way in yupr mouth , thats when you know there real. If they desolve as sson as soon bite into it and spit hits it . Its fake , if they stay solid they're real just looking out
Hey I have no hard feelings. It is what it is. The way I come off defensive is due to me having the ability to utilize this website and simply ask a question or share related or unrelated experiences and then get basically thrown into the seeker/addict/fake pain category. But I guess that's the vibe that can be taken from the thread.. That is why I started MY thread with MY experience. Was it stupid and down right dangerous to take it.. Yes. Is it stupid to obtain them other than the pharmacy.. You could definitely say yes. I agree. It just sucks living with what all of this combined has turned me into. I have CRPS in my foot from a surgery that should have never even been done on my foot to begin with.. But was told I should do/need it and I did it. It sucks.. When I say I take the oxycodone to be able to get moving i mean it literally. I take it to be able to have any moviability or at least to dull the pain so I can walk. I can't even put a sock on due to constant swelling and burning. The oxycodone definitely helps. I mean it's nothing other than the truth. 3 a day just was not cutting it for me especially when I was working. My doctor is so damn busy he schedules me for every other month and rushes me in and out as quickly as his staff can. Just wish he'd up the dosage or either give me a extended release medication then that way I wouldn't have to take so many instant release medication. And I think we can all agree that anyone who takes this for any extended amount of time for a chronic injury/illness that you are going to get addicted to the medication whether it's intentional or not. It's just how you deal with it I suppose. But I just wanted to ask that question about the pill that I had.. And I do value your viewpoint. I have no other reason to be sitting here typing all of this. Thank you.
Thanks for the replies to everyone who has responded!
Since I posted the original post, I have gained some more knowledge on these particular oxycodone pills. I have conferred with several other people in my own town about these pills and it has led me to find out the following:
These are actual generic oxycodone pills that are actually currently being dispensed by a 'big name store/pharmacy' in my area. (This was the main thing I was on the fence about because I had just never seen these before and it caught me off guard that the actual miligram was listed on the pill itself "10/325".)
A few people I talked to told me they actually get prescribed these and prefer these over any other generic oxycodone. And they also agree that this pill is very "chalky" in texture and mouthfeel.
Several people have mentioned the "imprint of the 1" on this pill and if the 1 has the "hook" at the top or is it just a straight line. Everyone of these pills that I have personally seen do in fact have that "hook" on the 1.
Mallinckrodt pharmaceuticals makes these particular pills.
In conclusion, this has all been everything I have been able to find out about these pills. I believe I have mentioned it all.
Thank you for leaving such a personable/detailed response. And please do forgive me if I had come off with the wrong approach. It's quite an easy thing to do when you're not actually face to face with someone. I feel for so many patients who are stuck in these binding situations with their doctors who are reluctant to even lend one helping hand, especially when they can see that several lines of support may be needed. I understand that in this context patients in pain need to do whatever they must to function and it puts honest people like yourself in between a rock and a hard place when it comes to filling the gap from less than adequate treatment. I just hope someday you'll be able to find a safer and effective means to relief when the doctor falls short.
Kind regards
I would like to thank koatom00723 for his post. It was very informational. I too have been in chronic pain for the past 5 + years. I have chronic pain in both my knees bone on bone. The clinic I go to is full of quacks. But I am forced to go there bcuz I have no money to go anywhere else. Its a long story. But it comes down to me having to buy pain pills through other means. I trust nobody so I look up all pain pills I get. I am anything but an addict. I cry all the time bcuz the pain is bad and in the cold months I'm pretty much bed ridden. And there is no financial way I can get my knees replaced. It would be nice if I could go back to enjoying my life. If I stand more than 5 minutes I'm in tears bcuz of the pain. I just pray some day that all who suffer with chronic pain can get a lasting relief. Thank you.
Hi all, first of all I hold a master's degree in nursing, and worked in the field 30 years. I am not a doctor, or a pharmacist. I went to a nursing school that demanded we always knew anything and everything about the meds that we have our patients take. There are times i have had to correct doctors and pharmacists about medication administration as they don't hand the pills with the direct intention of that person taking that pill right then, and there, and the one directly responsible for that person once they take it. When a doctor or pharmacist gives you pills, you are supposed to go home and read the literature about it. When a nurse hands you pills in the hospital she is responsible for letting you know what you need, or wish to know about it.
That being said; I am also a chronic pain sufferer, and have been for about 12 years now. The physical reasons have retired me from nursing, due to the pain, and the effects of the meds I take to deal with that pain. I have been seeing my current pain management doctor for 10 years, for prescriptions and 2 of them are opiates. It is just in the last few months that my doctor, of whom we have a wonderful doctor patient rapport, has increased dosages, frequencies, and medication types to some that I can function fairly well on. I'd say about 40% functional. 10 years. I was not in a big hurry to up anything, even though my previous prescriptions really were lacking greatly in helping my pain. They took the edge off if I was doing nothing more than lying in bed watching tv. I still can't walk more than for about ten minutes without being done, but I do have more desire to try and be more functional.
No one wakes up and says "gee I want to be an addict" if you have been on regular doses of narcotics for an amount of time, that differs from person to person, you will become dependent on that medication. It's a fact. I can bore you with what all goes on in your brain to cause this if you want, but most won't. Basically narcotics rewire your brain. I'm not saying that no one can quit cold turkey, or wean off. Some can, some can't. But chances are most people are dependent on those pills if they have taken them long enough for whatever time each person's body takes to become dependent.
A few visits ago, when my doctor made these miraculous changes in my meds I mentioned the word addiction. He said to me "you are not addicted" - I then told him the list of symptoms that occur if say I'm not hurting at bed time and maybe didn't take many meds the day before, and I wake up with symptoms of beginning withdrawal. He said to me first of all the fact that you have days that you don't take the maximum is a good indication. So basically after this long conversation what I gleaned was this. Yes, we do become physically, or mentally, or both, dependent on these meds but the term addiction is used more for behaviors, and lean toward abuse behavior. Constantly running out early, and yes I have taken an extra dose or two on some days. That just means I take less on others. Either because I'm not hurting as bad as usual, or well I took extra, and that leaves me with less because I don't wish to run out so I have to ration for a day or two lol.
For years I was on the three a day/90 A month train. If you have chronic bad pain 3 Norco 10/325 a day does not usually help. I suffered so much back then, but being a nurse I know what behaviors they use to red flag you as an abuser. That doesn't mean everyone that acts like that is abusing their meds, but unfortunately for all of us the ones that do have set the parameters for everyone. I live in a state that allowed the pill mills to go on, and on until a few years ago, and then they made the laws so ridiculous they hurt all of us, along with raising the medication costs so high even ppl like me with good insurance can barely afford them.
Anyway, I somehow found myself on this forum today trying to show someone how to look up code numbers on pills, she lent her room mate some and when room mate paid her back they didn't look at all like what she took and with me not having passed pills in a while I wasn't sure either. My heart goes out to anyone with chronic pain. Please, let's not all use name calling, and accusing everyone of being an addict and such. Let's all just try and help each other staying informed, and safe in taking these medications. I am not here to judge who, or why anyone takes narcotics. As a nurse we are taught not to judge the pain of others. We are taught to assess a need when giving people pills but that is a whole different topic. In my 30 years I never denied anyone their pain medicine. The doctor ordered it, he's way more educated than I lol. For those that feel the need to purchase on the street I don't judge you either. Some people in a lot of pain do that for many viable reasons, no insurance, long wait lists to become a patient, etc. I have been fortunate enough, or too scared to do that myself but to each his own. Just please be careful. From reading some of these posts there are some dangerous fakes going around. I just wanted to write today because a particular post got my attention, and sympathy. We don't know what the others are going through so please let's try not to speak hurtfully, or in an accusatory manner to each other. There were some excellent educational, and precautionary posts on here, good work people! Blessings to every one.
I agree with you.I am very iffy about them but as well. People do anything for a dollar these days.they say look for the crystals inside of any perk or norco the shine and how the imprint is.
People that can afford to judge, always will. When someone unqualified, or has not had the same experience in any given subject ie, unyielding chronic pain it's easy to give popular "everyone's an addict" answer. Sorry to hear about your pain, & wish I had a answer for you. In had a sort of relatable question. I won't ask now because of a troll that obviously had some kind of a "druggies" question, or wouldn't have been directed here.
I had the same problem on my end! I have been on pain medication for 6 years for major back and leg issues. I got some of the M523 pills and besides looking legit they clearly were not! I felt awful after taking them(like u said more of a xanax feeling than a oxycodone feeling) I had 20 of them and threw them all out right away! Those fakes going around must have fentanyl and a whole bunch of other crap in it! Be careful!!! Super Dangerous!!!!
I think UR pills are real Cuz I have gotten those w the 10/325 on the one side ftom Walmart. They don't seem that great but even though they claim the diff pharmaceutical companies have to put the same amount of medication in the ones ftom this comp at seem weak.
Hello! I too suffer from chronic pain. I had my pain under control until July 2016. I was thrown down by my autistic son and had an AC separation grade 5 and was actually knocked out. I was actually on Suboxone 4mg a day for my pain. (No Suboxone hasn't been approved in the US for pain but, my prescriptions all said for pain.) The 2 years I was on Suboxone were actually the best years I've had since my pain began. I have multiple conditions and am a veteran. Most of my healthcare comes through the VA. The Suboxone did not. They require me to spend 30 days away from my family, that is impossible for myself and my family. (I have an autistic son, disabled son (brain injury at birth), a 12 year old daughter who is very busy with athletics and I'm the full time care provider for my 2 year old granddaughter) When I went to the orthopedic doctor, she wanted to put me on oxycodone the first day. I objected and didn't start them until 3 days before my first surgery, which was 3 weeks after my accident. After surgery, I was prescribed 420 5mg oxycodone (no Tylenol) and was prescribed that amount until my last surgery 5 weeks ago, she cut me back to 240 a month of the same thing. Of course my pain is extreme still and she refuses to give me more. She says she doesn't want me to get addicted. First off, I've been on opiates for years and it's the ONLY thing that relieves my pain. So, now I have to find relief my own way, friends of friends, or whatever way possible.
I can relate to the original poster, doctors don't want or care to help you. People who take narcotics just to feel high ruin it for the ones who have REAL MEDICAL problems! Yes, we are addicted but it's not the addiction that keeps me taking, it's the pain! I'd rather live my life without pills and no pain than a life of pain management. I, like the original poster, cannot even get out of the bed without the oxycodone. I'm in that much pain. And to be honest, 10mg of oxycodone does NOT mess with my mind or 'mess' me up after so many years of using it. What probably bothered me the most in this thread is for someone to say something about your liver. I assume the maximum amount of Tylenol and ibuprofen every day is better and still no relief! People who haven't been there or take for recreational use have no idea of what they are talking about. What landed me on this thread, I also got the same pills that the VA distributes, of course the cheapest medication. There are fakes out there though. Please be careful.
I don't think that you should feel shamed or scorned. Pain management is tricky because some days you hurt more than others and you need to take more but your pain management plan you can't and your doctors don't want dependency issues ( which let's be honest if you're on them and have been for a year straight there are already dependency issues and there is a difference between drug dependent and drug addict a very distinct difference) or they don't want to have liability. I just got this medication from my Pharmacy with that manufacture with the numbers on the side so I looked it up to see because they are bigger than the usual ones that I get and I didn't know if that was because I was cash pay and not insurance this time, because I lost my insurance. I haven't noticed a real difference between my old ones and these ones. I do however when they're the round tablets that Walmart often carries, those ones don't work at all for me. And unfortunately people who have never suffered from chronic pain don't know what it's like to want to just not feel pain for an hour out of an entire day. Because out of 24 hours you hurt every hour you're awake, every minute you're awake, and sometimes when the pain is really bad nothing helps take it all away. The medications help take the edge off, but for me being a chronic back pain suffer, nothing ever really takes it all away and unfortunately for me it will only get worse as I age. And I've come to accept that this is what it is. Don't let anyone make you feel bad for looking outside of the pharmacist or your doctor to try to help with the medications and the pain just be careful what you take and be very careful. Sometimes we act out of desperation because we hurt so bad, but I would assume because this came from a CVS Pharmacy, that it is a legitimate pill and it's not a fake one especially if it has the 1 and not the I.
Exactly no one knows how it is with chronic pain or can even pretend to understand unless u have severe pain n chronic widspread then u will understand I pray for all of u to be pain free and myself. I JUDGE NOONE!!!!!!!!
Hi! I know this forum is older but in case anyone else has the same question about the 10/325 & M523 pills.... in a nut shell they are Percocet. Which is oxy & Acetaminophen. I have a prescription to these so i can confirm they are authentic as long as they are white, oval, and have 10/325 on one side and M523 on the other. Hope this helps.
Just wanted to say that I get mine from the neoro pain center..then straight from the pharmacy. They are exactly as you described them. I am thinking perhaps the anticipation of not knowing for sure what you took could have added to the...what I would guess was some sort of panic attack. You are aware that panic attacks can cause many physical symptoms..including the ones you described. But I am no doctor..just wanted to give you something to think about. Mine are real...straight from the pharmacy..and they are exactly like the ones you took.
I have been dealing with a lot of fake pills lately where I'm from. I have some of the m325s that I originally thought were fake due to their beat up like appearance. They are indeed real. If ever in doubt, there are a few tricks to tell if they are real.
1. I'll lick part of the pill and see if it has that bitter taste that pain pills have, then I'll drop it in a small glass of water and observe how it dissolves. If it dissolves slowly and evenly then that's a good sign. If it dissolves instantly then I'll throw it out. I had some Watson 853s recently that looked perfect. They even had the gloss coating on them. I licked it and didn't get any kind of taste. Then I dropped it in water and sure enough, it broke apart at the middle of the pill (not where the score is) and just sat there in the water. Parts of it didn't dissolve.
2. The second way to tell if they are legit is to break one in half and then grab a flashlight. Real Oxy and Hydrocodone will ALWAYS have tons of little crystals inside the pill that should be visible when you shine a light on them. I know this is an old thread but there are more and more fakes out there lately so I'm hoping this could help someone from taking a fake pill and potentially ending up in the hospital.
I appreciate you sharing however there are many of us with severe chronic pain and we're always gonna hear this feedback. also if you don't ask questions like some of us then how else will we get the answers that were seeking. a lot of doctor's know the real truth behind all medications due to them responding (Not that they are not gonna be honest with us however later, that's where the legal suits come along later down the line, so never apologize for asking questions cause you have the right for answer's; tho a lot of doctor's are keeping quiet they know this mess is mostly Tylenol or aspirin. Percs. 10/325 numbs the pain barely. It's all bull and we know it and the doctors know it.
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