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I refilled my monthly subutex Tuesday and received orange oblong tablets inscribed 153. My pharmacy has carried 54/111 over three years. Does anyone know if the orange ones are going to permanently replace all other generic Buprenorphine? Also, are any other patients experiencing loss in quality? Thank you

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Subgirl..Im fighting with my pharmacy too over the orange monsters .I took them for 1week and nearly died I kept telling them I felt like I wasn't taking anything I had a killer headache nausea my legs hurt and I stayed sleepy all day They acted like I was lying or something I kept on and told them to look them up on the internet and see all the complaints and they finally reordered my white 45/411 roxannes back for me.I have een on them for years and I think they are the best.

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yea Subgurl..for me, the Roxane 54 411's work the best, + they are bigger than the little arrows, so are easy to divide in two /or four pieces...but are not huge like the orange crescent moons ;)

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Thank you for letting me know! I have only been on high tech ones the arrow symbol b4, but u say the roxanne ones work better? Are they small too? Anything's g2b better than these big oval orange ones! They suck!

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hi subgirl...yea, walgreens said same thing to me. I called walmart pharmacy and thankfully they are still getting Roxanne. Those work great for me. Said that I could take the bottle, and they will have the script (refill) transferred. Won't make that mistake again. Hope you can manage to do the same.

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Me too! Ive been taking the Hi Tech ones w the arrow for several years -,2- 8mg subutex a day then all the sudden i get these orange huge oval pills at Walgreens. THEY SUCK! They not only taste terrible they don't work as well I feel like I don't even feel like I'm taking anything out for any of the effects from it except for it's giving me bad migraines & night sweats. I called the pharmacy immediately and asked if I could take them back and switch them out and they said no that they were unable to take that controlled substances. I asked if this is what they were going to be getting from now on this activists Elizabeth and they said yes I then called my doctors office and I basically was told o well nothing we can do about it right now. Next time I will search pharmacies until I reach the one with the correct manufacturer. Which ones do you guys think work the best for Subutex 8 mg?

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Yes that is a common complaint. The best thing to do is complain to your pharmacy, the owner of your pharmacy and the drug company itself.

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wow...good for you TJ...that is commendable. I've been happy with this for pain control ...so it is tough to consider stopping. I also imagine it can be tough... including depression, etc. please be careful...keep some around if you need it. I would enjoy a healthy libido again tho. cheers!

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Hi bc,
I get a bit mixed up too on who takes for what reason as well. I've been clean off pk's for month's now! I don't keep track..lol
But this medication saved my life as well and I'm so grateful! I pray I'm done with subutex after this last fill! Hope all goes well and I wake up with out taking anything! I'm simpley over all meds other then tylnol. Fingers crossed but I have faith.
Peace

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Sorry...mixed up on % abusers/ complainers.

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Hi TJ...yes...the very small white ones may also have the same fillers...I don't know...,but far far less obviously. They worked very well...so the extra stuff is clearly there so those who prefer to insulfate(that 1% you mention...maybe higher % than that), cannot. And actually... what I specifically dislike it is not the extra bad taste...but that there is so much product to try to keep under the toungue...the best way to assure it is absorbed. So...while I could keep it under my tounge for a long time before....it is now too much product in my mouth. This is my experience...a real patient 5 yrs off after 10+ on!...who could not be happier than having found subutex. I'm not knocking this version for others...it is what it is...just the lack of choice....and the extra $50/mo-if no insurance. Also, I am scripted more than 8...but I have to divide doses(yes I have permission) because I get headaches. We are lucky to get this miracle opiod (even with the side effects)...however...I prefer the smaller pills...for all these reasons. Good health y'all

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Wow..That's crazy! I was taking up to 15 painkillers a day, down to 10 a day when I started the new so called orange one's. They work for me from the get go! The main ingredient is the same as is in all..Its different fillers etc! I know this because i was a pharmacy technician for 9 years..I spoke to the Alan my old boss and questioned the difference. He said NO difference for main ingredient..the Burp! I don't know what to tell you really..I know its psychology more of a problem then many think. Our minds play alot in the withdraws we have..Yes, withdraws are real...but I would maybe recommend meditation. Good luck!

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@Frankie,
My comment was for those complaining of the taste or headaches associated with the new Actavis Orange Subutex, I would rather stick dirt under my tongue if it would work, because both colors taste disgusting and can cause headaches due to over consumption.
Don't quote me on this, but I believe the Orange Actavis Subutex are coming to America from Dublin Ireland, I might be incorrect. The batch you got could very well be placebo pills as far as I'm concerned if they are not closely watched when coming from another country. I would save your bottles and explain to your pharmacist and your doctor what is happening and they might get to the root of the problem. Maybe your doctor can check your nano- blood levels in a simple blood test to see if your properly getting the medicine and dosage sublingually. If it is Dublin Ireland, they could be tainted. Also the 1 or 2 ingredients they made slight changes with, may not work properly sublingually with certaiin individuals like yourself. Hope I could help sincerely because I know the importance of Subutex and how it can change and save lives. I am breathing, walking, proof.

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I want to put my 2 cents worth in.im 53years old been on the white subutex 54/411 for years after my doctor got me hooked on pain pills which nearly killed me.And in no way am I abusing my subutex it saved my life .That being said...The new orange ones don't work i have been on then 5 days prescribed dose and I am sitting here now in withdrawals

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Right on Tj!!
I agree with everything you said!

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@BC1111,

I know you feel you weren't prescribed all of the corn starches and anhydrouses that are in a Subutex but Those two I mentioned and the magnesium are all to help you dissolve all 8 mg of the Bupe, if 8 is your dose, and they are also designed , or put in there to act as a buffer and help the half life of the drug remain the longest lasting possible. If you check the old white Roxonne laboratory website, they state that all of the additional drugs that you don't need or didn't get prescribed were also all incliuded in the old white ones. Or at least from the webpage I read the ingredient from.

I took opiates for five years, i have now been off for 4 years on August 3rd thanks to using subutex as prescribed. Always under my tongue and always 8 hours apart from one another. Every form of Buprenorphine I have tried tastes bad and if anyone in this forum thought the white ones tasted pleasant under your tongue then you need to go see a taste bud doctor cause yours are fried?? I found out that 99 percent of the complainers are the abusers who take more than prescribed, ect. The other 1 percent of the complainers are the price or lack of availability as bc1111 mentioned. I also only want to complain about the price and availability because In the Northern Kentucky, Greater Cincinatti area it is impossible to get Subutex filled anymore because the D E A and Kentuckys Senate have waged a personal war on the Subutex specifically made by Roxonne, Teva, And Ethypharm companies. All of us legitimate users who take as prescribed administered under the tongue have to suffer thanks to the abusers and people who sell theirs as well as run out early from over-use. "THANKS ABUSERS AND DRUG DEALERS"!!! You ruined a good thing for us 1 percent...

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Prices also went up significantly (walgreens) for this version from Actavis (Actavis is now Allergan). I must find another pharmacy with the smaller white pills again. These are full of "other" stuff* to make it hard for people to abuse it... by making it burn if you do.

For me...and i'm sure everyone else, it is:
1. terrible tasting
2. very hard to divide (I divide into 4 pieces...impossible to make equal doses)
3. headaches due to taking too much (and not enough water before)...because impossible to dose correctly.

(from website): pi.actavis.com/data_stream.asp?product_group=1967&p=medguide&language=E

citric acid anhydrous, crospovidone, FD & C yellow #6 HT aluminum lake, lactose monohydrate, magnesium stearate, mannitol, pregelatinized starch (maize), providone, sodium citrate dihydrate.

I was not prescribed all that stuff. sux...but...it is bupe.

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They suck as far as I am concerned I just got them filled and I hate them. They burn like suboxone but no orange taste.

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Jenpink..So sorry you don't like this brand! I had been addicted to pain meds for many many years and this new/or old brand works just fine. Again, if your taking for the right reasons you shouldn't have any problems at all! What about them do you not like? Just curious. I was taking 10 to 15 painkillers a day...I stoped with no problem using this brand. I've gone from 8mg twice a day to about 2mg once a day. I have energy, feel normal and living a good life. Like i said before, I may get a headach here and there but only because I've taken more then i should. If your only in it for the high...one day you may find you won't be able to get these anymore and the whole purpose has been defeted. The laws are going to get alot stricter here in the next few months when ot comes to this medication.

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I totally agree Mary. When I take more than I'm supposed to, that's when the headaches occur, which was the same scenario with the Roxoane 54/411 tabs. I like the new orange ones better as well. They take slightly longer to dissolve which to me, is a benifit by making sure all of the Buprenorphine is dissolved in my blood vessels under my tongue. The only reason I hear others truly complaining boils down to the fact that when they abuse them, they burn your nose unlike the white ones. I think anyone who misuses them are in fact abusing them because they are wanting a buzz to hit them hard and fast, yet resulting in a shorter half life which in my eyes, I call that abusing them which is exactly the opposite of what the drug is administered for. Some people will never change and it's sad, this epidemic of opioid dependence has his hand in the greater Cincinnati area which is where I'm from.

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I have had no issues with the new Subutex. I once in a while get a headach, ONLY because i may have taken more then I should have. It's a good warning to cut back. After almost 2 months on this brand the after taste has subsided a bit...I believe I like this brand better! I think if your taking right and not abusing them...good choice..but if your taking to get a buzz or pick me up...Whats the point of taking? And yes...I do get the energy from these just as i did the last brand.

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