M Amphet Salts 20 Mg Vs Adderall Xr 20 Mg
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Adderall xr 20 mg and M. Amphet Salts 20 mg. Are these the exact same medications? Are they both manufactured my Shire? Does Shire provide Teva/Barr with the generic version of Adderall xr under the name M. Amphet Salts 20mg? Thank you....

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I just started the add salt combo and it don't feel right.almost like senthetic meth( flakka)

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I am so glad I came across this site. I need a dr so badly for my add and anxiety. I'm very lucky to read all this info before I get screwed and it's so my body to get those bad side effects.

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I just read your post. I was for many years taking and sometimes abusing my adderall ir so after being hospitalized to get off of 6mgs of ativan a day which oi have successfully but painfully done. I for the first time been given the orange 20mg xr M imprint and i have been in bed with blackout curtains from insane headaches, stiff neck, dizzy, nausea. I feel like total s***. The only relief i get is the 20 mg booster ir in the afternoon. I am also used to not sleeping a lot and since on this generic xr i am sleeping more than i have in my life, i am 51 years old...i am also angry and having crazy thoughts i have NEVER had in my life. I have not drank alcohol in years and since starting this i have been craving alcohol and having drinking dreams. I am beyond frustrated.

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The only institution the Insurance Co's are going to listen to are NIH and NIMH. Full Stop!!! I copy/pasted 11 studies done by the government that prove without a shadow of a doubt that generics are fundamentally different and how they are different. You can beat your head against the wall talking to your doctor or calling your Insurance. Go to nih.gov or nimh.gov. I only copy/pasted for my fight. I didn't keep the links. You have to play around a little bit with what you write in the search bar but when you get it right study after study will be there. A side note. If you're so inclined, and I was, England has much stricter laws than we do. I also printed out studies they did on generics that had put in applications to sell their product in England and they were turned down. Teva is one.

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Henry H. posted here stating those who posted here are the most ignorant... YOU'RE THE IMBECILE.

Generics are not always identical. Personally i say none are, but i haven't looked into nor used all drugs now... does it make any sense for any company to make the same identical drug and compete with themselves selling it cheaper and calling it generic??? Fk No. That's why i personally don't believe in the BS.

Generics can legally have 20% less of the main ingredients (the ones that matter for the treatment). Then, the delivery system can be different.

Adderall brand. They own the best delivery system ER patent(s). They put pure ingredients in it and therefore they set the bar! They also make generics too! They may or may not use there identical delivery system in generics. Their secret. But you can be dam sure they most likely put less or less pure main ingredients into the generic.

Now for my experiences. Brand name 20mg x2 a day first month. Awesome!!! Generic switch to TEVA for 2nd 30 days. The duration changed from 8 or 9 hrs to 6 hrs, 2nd dose taken after 1st declining. Had some muscle aching and weakness, some headaches and nausea. Never put the symptoms together till i read them on forums from others saying same thing upon a switcheroo. My doctor wrote my 3rd month for brand only before upping dosage and to 3x a day as we both want to make sure its not a tolerance change and or generic to blame. Funny thing is, meijer pharmacy still gave me TEVA generic and charged insurance for brand!!! Thankfully i noticed it withing 8 hrs of getting script. Called meijer and got some we sorry story, bring it back for brand... honest mistake or a switcheroo??? Garbage! Will call insurance co and meijer heads to complain. Upon searching google for this switcheroo, seems to happen but not as much as people getting someone else's scripts. Scary.

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I could not believe my eyes when I read your post , I had the same experience
I used to take Adderral XR brand and it worked fine , then the medication got changed to generic and I had horrible side effects. I was able to switch back to brand and after taking it for a few days once I got the same side effects . I checked the medications and found out that half of them are generic in the bottle with brand name and yes it was from Walgreen

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I had to laugh reading this your complaining about a luxury medicine that they were switching manufacturing companys and rather hike the price up they gave u different imprint... At the end of the day the only way you win is stop taking em

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I took phentermine 37.5 and had the same sense of productivity, energy and focus. I lost 30 pounds. 145 was my best weight. And had an AWESOME personality. Since stopping it's been tuff. I was prescribed Zoloft then Welbutrrin xl 150. Taken off Zoloft then upped to 300 on Wellbutrin and phentermine. Then decided that adderall may cure all. Add has been quite crippling and was dx very late in life. Initially took generic teva/Barr and felt like I took sleeping pills instead of adderal. Then went to cvs and had adderall filled by activis. Activis XR is the best generic that worked for me

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Some people are highly sensitive to the so called inactive ingredients. It's called DRUG SENSITIVITY. To call people ignorant truly shows you're own ignorance on the subject. Please refrain from putting people down when this is a very real problem many deal with & have a hard enough time as it is.

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hello! thanks so much for talking about this medication! I have to start this medicine for the first time in my life as I have been diagnosed with ADHD at 34! I am desperate for help but not desperate enough to suffer worse symptoms for it. I am extremely afraid of taking this medication xr as I have been researching it and found so many side effects including sudden death. Though I am in a very sensitive state regarding where I stand at my job and the way people tend to treat me as if i was a total stupid i**** that cannot do her job, I am not willing to die to correct my ADHD issues. Because of this post I did contact Walgreens and was told I was prescribed the generic manufactured by (bar). I am not sure if that is how you spell the name as I was told over the phone. I explained to the pharmacy the issues I have read about generics and asked if I could get the brand name medication. They told me I would have to call the doctor to find out. I then called my doctor and now I am waiting on a call back.

is barr generic brand good?

UPDATE: Thanks so much for sharing this information!!!! I will call my doctor and ask them to provide me with a new script for the brand name but am afraid of whether or not my insurance will cover it because it is more expensive?

I just read your post after I posted this last message and sure enough they are trying to sell me the generic BARR manufactured stuff. You just answered my question!

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Hi I'm new here and was put on 20xr by Barr for the past 30 days. Went to my Dr for check and to see how I tolerated 20xr and I told her they worked okay, but by 3pm I was ready for a nap! So we discussed it and she wrote a new script increasing my dose to 30xr by te a (Orange/brown football). After ready so may posts on Brand Name(Shire) vs Generic, I called my insurance company bcbs (fed blue) and was told that I could get mail order brad name 90 day supply of 30xr (shire)for 105.00 (vs the generic 30xr for 30 day supply for 28.00) but my question is this.... Is there a major difference that anyone can speak about (with experiance) between Shires brand name 30xr vs Teva generic 30xr??
I've read a ton of forums and I know everyone is different but I also have read Teva uses a lot of unwanted filler, etc..so I am really confused. The primary issue is that come 3 pm I'm like dead in the water and am totally drained (I take my med at 9am and it wears off by 2pm). Also I really do have to say this, two years ago I was put on Phentermine 37.5 for obesity (endrocronoligst put me on it for 6 months) and I have to say that while I was taking Phentermine I was never more alert, calm, functioning and felt normal!! It was a god send for my ADHD. Was the best thing I ever had (clarity and focus wise)! But, Phentermine is not approved for Adhd and my Dr will not write for off lable prescriptions. So I'm left w/trying to come up with best suitable substitute and have yet to find ANYTHING that compares to Phentermine. So, I was thinking is it better to go the route of name brand (shire) for efficiency or is Teva genetic similar with same efficiecy?

Hoping someone out there had tried both and can speak to this from experiance.

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You're the ignorant one. Obviously you don't take any of the medications discussed in this thread. I've been taking adderall xr since 2006 and it's changed A LOT since then. There are also markedly noticeable changes with the various generics.

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I paid brand price copay for 60 of the 25 mg Global generic but overall, this reminds me of the regular Adderall XR more than anything. I was lucky this time I guess because I have heard reviews of the Actavis generic which both have had some claim it is better and others worse than the others and brand. I checked out the prescribing info and they are the same as Adderall XR. Personally, I don't mind as long as they work but I am under the impression that shire makes this and gives it to the companies (Teva/Barr as well) and they are working great so far. I take 2 with a 30 mg IR tablet (7.5 mg bid as needed and 15 mg in the PM every day) and I am not complaining yet.

I have to say these remind me of the old Adderall XR that I used to get. It is my first dose from 30 mg IR 3 times a day and I am doing okay on it. I am on this really because my doctor is into the XR thing and it calms her paranoia. She said she has 300 lb patients on less than half of what I take but I am her only childhood case also so she doesn't underdose but it still makes me feel bad because she always has some remark about the dose I am on.

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Thanks! What I'm pissed about is that I paid the co-pay for the brand name and what I got is not the brand name. It is generic Shire.

I have had nothing but problems with the pharmacy in my doctor's building -- everyone raves about but all 3 times I've been there I've had nothing but problems.

This generic Shire version is working for me, but on principle I don't want to be ripped off. I mean, who does?

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Well im so glad u found ur post. I take adderall xr20 mg 2 times daily. n last june my insurance changed rx coverage n I have to take name brand due to insurance not covering it any other way written so at first I thought my meds were not working n frustrated n not happy that I have to take medication now to make me funcion normal I didn't notify my dr n kept taking it thinking it would work I was imagining that my meds weren't working n no change a month later only. severe headaches n numbness in arms legs n fingers daily. My headaches were now daily n felt that im not imagining it my meds arnt working and didn't wsnt to go back tomy dr n feel like a drugie n tell her to up my mg..I was going nuts not being able to be as I call it normal as I had been for 2yrs on what I thougjt was the same meds..well when my insurance rx plan changed now all of a sudden issues started..not only that I use to pay 50 for my perscription n now its only 30.00 well that's because shire did the same to me ..changed what there despencing but. labeled it same drug..wallgreens is where I fill my meds n csnt believe I have went. through feeling like a drugie n headaches daily so bad I have called off work n I never call off sick..the numbness n tingling in my extremidies n scared to notify dr. about side effects im now having yet I been taking the same medication for 2yrs...shame on my insurance united healthcare n damn Shire for ruining my life. by swindeling us americans with a knock off rx they claim is one thing but in reality something else..damn wallgreens for allowing drug makers to screw us and. for walgreens for being as bad as Shire is by knowing this n never informing us as they should on our explanation sheet attached to our medication bag. Isn't it funny how they ask u if need anything explained on ur meds or have any questions..well after 2yrs on the same meds u say no cause u think its remained the same..well surprise..its not at sll the same n they damn well know it..im filing a. report to FDA n calling Shire along with writting a letter to the attorney general snd. our local I Team Investigates channel 9 news on whats going on with Shire and our pharmacies. we deserve to be normal functioning human beings with out dealing with side effects due to BIG RX COMPANIES CHEATING US BY LYING N SAYING OUR MEDICATION IS ADDERALL BUT INFACT AMPHEDIMINE SALTS...

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I recently had to change health plans to a large HMO in California. During the transition, my old doctor wrote one month's worth of prescriptions to tide me over until I was able to be seen by the various specialists at the HMO. I had always received 20mg generic adderall and it was written as "Amphetamine Salts COMBO 20,g". When I asked him about the :COMBO" he explained that it was a combination of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine (the ingredients in Adderall). He said that if you have a prescription that says Amphetamine Salt 20 mg. or something similar, you are NOT getting the generic equivalent of Adderall and may experience side effects from fillers and the missing compound. Watch out for this as I JUST made this mistake with my new HMO and I've had side aches, headaches and vomiting.

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Mary if your script is for BRAND Adderall XR the pills should have Adderall XR stamped on the orange section and the 20mg stamped on the clear side. This is the ONLY way to tell BRAND Adderall XR mfg from Shire. If it's marked M. Amphet Salts on the orange side it is the GENERIC version. Now this is important,who does the label list as the mfg? If it says SHIRE then you should be OK but if it says TEVA then you'll probably have migraines,nausea and muscle aches.
I've had this issue for the first time in 6 years of taking this medication. I recently had my prescription filled for what I thought was Brand Adderall XR 30mg. I took it without looking and within hours had a migraine and horrible stomach cramps. I thought maybe I was having reactions since I hadn't taken it for 3 days due to an insurance screw up. So the next day I took it and it was even worse! Add on throwing up,hot skin with rash and muscle aches around my neck and shoulders like when you sleep wrong but 10 times more painful. When I looked at the bottle it said D-Amphetamine Salt Com XR and the capsule was marked M.Amphet Salts mfg TEVA. Well apparently my insurance only approved me for generic which I'm still fighting with them to approve BRAND by SHIRE. Well I've taken generic before when I lost my insurance but they were marked SHIRE on the pill and on the bottle. I called my cool,Duane Reade,pharmacist and he said he only got generics from Shire but recently Teva has been processing them. He said that there's got to be an added filler causing these reactions. I told him that it didn't work the same and I felt icky like I was on something. He replied that even though they may have the equivalent ingredients that the way they're processed and what is added to them can make them ineffective. He said I wasn't crazy and wasn't the first person to mention this. He said that when he gave me brand he only gave me ones marked Adderall XR on them and that's the only way way they should be marked.
So take them back and insist on ones marked Adderall XR if you're supposed to get Brand not M. Amphet Salts.
By the way my shrink is an NYU Dept of Psychiatry biggie and is looking into getting these lab tested to find out what's going on. Insurance companies and Pharma companies are partners in screwing over members with our money and our mental health well being. I'd like them to experience a day on meds that work and a day on meds that they say "are exactly the same". After they feel like crap I'd love for them to tell me I'm crazy!

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I found this conversation because I am seeking the same information. Last time I had my Adderall XR 20 filled about CVS, they gave me some blue capsules that did not work for me. So I told my doctor and went to the pharmacy in his building and specified that I wanted the ORANGE capsules. They told me the copy would be $35. So I checked out the capsules and they say M Amphet Salts 20 mg. They are organge, but the markings are different. The label on my bottle says 'Adderall XR 20 mg' and the mfr is Shire. It seems like the XR would have to be marked on the capsules as well. If it isn't the same thing, they are charging the brand name medication copay when you get this. What do you think? I've only taken one dose and they are better than the blue things, that's for sure. But if I'm paying for brand name, that is what I want.

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Express Scripts ALLEGEDLY purchased Medco. For cost savings after 6 years of bad...THEY ARE HORRIFIC, HAVE TRIPLED 90 DAY SCRIPTS...STILL CHEAPER WITH THEIR FEE FOR NOT DOING 90 DAYS ON EVERYTHING!!! I CONTACT V.I.P.P.S ALLEGED REGULATORS ALMOST EVERY SCRIPT! !!!

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I am so glad I came across ur post. I've suffered for over 30 yrs with ADD an finally at 50 I am starting adderall an I'm very nervous. I'm afraid I'm going to end up with generic an have a lot of issues..mine had to b precertification that's what theyr doin today..I wrote down your info u wrote about the shore pharm an fda. .thx for the advice. .

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