In Bad Withdrawls But Just Felt Worse

I just recently went through the worst withdrawals from taking Subs too early. I only took a quarter of an 8mg sub after not snorting any H or OC for about 16 hours. I felt bad that's why I took the sub but it only made it 10 times worse. I had leg cramps, my mind was racing out of control, it was terrible. After abut 4 or 5 hours I took another quarter and it still just got worse with no relief. I felt relief only while it was under my tongue. It seemed like once it was all the way dissolved it kicked in the withdrawals worse. I ended up giving in and blowing some H. I'm trying to get on the subs so I'm going to give it a try again. I'm so worried about it being so bad again though. I don't know how much longer I have to wait and how much worse it has to be. I can't even explain how awful it was. I seriously thought I was going to die. I wondering if I just didn't take enough of the suboxone initially. Any suggestions?

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I was addicted to oc's for over two years. I heard a lot about suboxone from some friends who cleaned up. the first time I took one I was about 16 hours into deep withdrawls. I took 1 sub and I felt normal. Like I did before I had ever done any drugs. If you want to kick your habbit give suboxone a real shot. Take a half or a whole one, put it under your tong and let is fully dissolve and the keep it polled under your toung for in all about 30 minutes, and trust me it will work. I was doing up to 10 80's a day. Good Luck and God bless.

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Another issue that you are probably running into here is that along with the opiate, Buprenorphine, Suboxone also contains Naloxone. Naloxone is used to neutralize opiates, this helps prevent people from abusing Suboxone and abusing other drugs while they are under Suboxone treatment.

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WHAT WILL RELIEVE NEURONTIN WITHDRAWLS?

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Firstly, the original post said "subs" not "suboxone". Suboxone is prescribed as opioid replacement therapy for only those who ASK for it, wanting the misplaced belief in the helpfulness of naloxone as additional aid to ending opioid habits. One or two local health boards use it as first choice over the far more widely used Subutex. All naloxone does in its normal dose of 200mcg is stop the euphoric effect when other opioids apart from buprenorphine are used. Not entirely, petsonal experience says. Subutex, buprenorphine from 2mg to 8mg per tablet, between 10 & 40 times the normal dose for pain of 200mcg (Temgesicâ„¢), equivalent to around 7.5mg morphine sulphate, is less likely than other opioids esp of that strength to cause euphoria... I can attest that 4mg upwards does indeed produce a lot of euphoria, unhabituated individuals feel this at therapeutic doses of 200-400mcg. Naloxone doesn't block much of the bupe euphorics either, and it is, being prescribed in the prison system rather than Subutexâ„¢, very much a drug that gives the typical opioid experience when, as is the norm there, held back in a dried out upper gum under the lip, and snorted; in those prisons where heroin is difficult to obtain, it is currency, 1mg = around 0.5 - 1 oz (12.5 - 25g) tobacco.
The time given, 16hrs, should be plenty long enough for no heavy antagonist withdrawals to take place; your body chemistry is odd if it hasn't managed to process things to avoid such an occurrence. The product literature says SIX hours after last dose. I have never managed to go into WD when taking Subs even 5 hrs after last diamorphine use.
Much more likely is WD on doing exactly what you've done; smoke smack during period of action of previously taken buprenorphine! Not other way round, as intended! I am sorry for you, but will bet that having that burn made your WF a lot worse.
There is no real ANSWER here. It takes several doses, usually given once daily like methadone, or split into two equally divided 12 hour doses (give me the lot at once) & I'd merely consider yourself unlucky. If you struggle with cravings then Subs are NOT the ORT for you. Better use Janssen's 24hr hydromorphone capsule or 1mg/mL methadone mixture. NOT 'linctus' which is scripted purely as an antitussive, being only 1mg/5mL. You are obviously not a suitable patient for the buprenorphine option. Or find a doc licenced to prescribe dipipanone to addicts (or one who is prepared to swear it's being prescribed purely for pain!) since Diconal is easier than either to taper from and is much more enjoyable during the process. A habit of regular Afghan #3 of 1g or 1.875g daily, purity 20 - 35% (unlike the 57% common only 6 yrs ago, as tested when I got busted) should require 30 - 40mg Diconal qds. There are no clinics left in the UK where you can get twice daily Heroin Hydrochloride prescribed, but that is far and away the best, being the actual drug most opiate addicts use means a supervised taper is easy.
Remember also it isn't that big a deal. The fear is worse than the WD, no matter. Opioid withdrawal cold turkey lasts only a week. You can use tapering rapidly in around a month, maybe six weeks. And it's ten times easier and safer than alcohol withdrawals.
Use Subutexâ„¢, not the lemon tasting naloxone containing one, unless you are being forced to by a prison system. But the only advantage it has over methadone is WD can be done rapidly. The most imporyant factor is willpower. Which I do not have much of. And the knowledge about the alternatives.
By the way, good luck. I long since accepted that I am not a candidate for total abstinence. At 54, I don't give a toss if I take heroinâ„¢ or oxycodone every day for life. I can no longer be arsed with giving up. Opiates don't cause much bother anyway, it is not as if it's alcohol, amfetamine, tobacco, or cocaine (or even weed) which all cause physical problems & tissue damage or degeneration, which opiates/oids do NOT, being pretty benign drugs, contrary to propaganda.

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By the way, I would use instant release Oxynorm rather than Oxycontin any day. Easier to control and a much better hit. The powder in those capsules is just MADE for sticking up your nose. The tablets also contain many more ingredients like binders which are a pain, and not great things to be snorting. Cellulose, anyone?

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And Sherry, Neurontin... Pfizer's brand of gabapentin, is it not?
Well I was put on 600mg daily of the far stronger pregabalin, Pfizer brand Lyrica, and WD is no big deal at all. I was reduced over only 10 days and there were no bad effects AT ALL. Easy drug to stop. Cease worrying, that's the problem, not withdrawal itself. Unless you have been taking upwards of 2 or 3 grams a day, in which case take clonazepam 500mcg tds for a week to stop any likelihood of seizure, the only withdrawal problem, rare, but not unheard of. It really is a simple matter.

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