Hydrocodone - Impossible To Get In The Uk...? (Page 4)

I am currently on an oxycodone m/r script, and find that it certainly does not last for the claimed twelve hours per tablet. No matter what, my doctor refuses to prescribe anything for this 'breakthrough' pain, not even a 20mg OxyNorm to carry me over. I have heard, however that a DIFFERENT analgesic is best in this situation. Since most drug information sites and forums are American, the drug which keeps cropping up and is most highly recommended to me is hydrocodone. This is NOT available in the UK, and despite many attempts, I can find no place to access it. The only other country which uses hydrocodone, in a much better pure form, is Germany, where it is available under the brand DICODID by Knoll, 10mg per tablet. Unfortunately I have had just as little success in tracing a source for this as for the US version, which is ALWAYS adulterated with paracetamol, usually 325mg/tab.

Does anyone have any idea where I could obtain a supply for these dreadful times when the OxyContin doesn't work? Dicodod would obviously be the preference but I HAVE tried the US hydro a few times and found that by far the best I have tried is Mallinckrodt's 'M367' 10mg/325mg tablet, in a dosage of 30-40mg.

This is a matter of access though, so if anybody can suggest any way that I can manage to get a stock of this most useful drug, then please post. There is a gap between dihydrocodeine and morphine in the UK which has nothing of in-between strength to fill it. In he US you have hydro and meperidine and hydromorphone in 4mg and 8mg strengths, instant release. All I want is relief from those bad times. Under-prescribing and refusal to prescribe for such occasions is becoming almost an obsession with me, and I really need something of this order to help.

Thanks for any replies.

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Eddy, Hi again, sorry taken so long to answer - have relocated (within the UK tho) and its been a difficult move - winter, raining, flu, moving, finances, etc. etc.
Anyway, nearly settled, besides all the PAPERWORK in the UK!!!
If you have a tried and tested trustworthy web-based pharmacy that I can just get hydrocodone from, and if lucky, some librax (because I'm not going to have the colon op - dont want to land up with a bag - no sir!!!) - I will really appreciate having the contact details. How do I get the details from you? Please let me know. And, thank you for taking the time for coming back to me.

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which pharmacy? can you just post the info? {edited for privacy}.

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InPain, I see what you mean about getting the right info without actually saying so. The pharmacy in question is definitely NOT black, and is not a dot com but a dot company in my country; that should be enough for you to work it out. And I do not think I have inadvertently broken the rules but if I have then the people who approve the posts will put this up in such a way that It passes muster. I hope that I have done OK and apologise in advance to the Medchat folks if I have done anything wrong. They are actually a registered place with government approval and a registration number for Internet business. What is in question is whether they will send internationally with a UK prescription.

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thanks for trying to help I figured it out what company you were talking about and they wont deliver to usa.

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Mino...ty now I'm going to try to ummm decode lol I'm a blonde so it may take me awhile lol
Thank you

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Although the active ingredient is said and supposed to be the same - the different generics can be differently effective than the actual Brand, with each individual patient. This is a fact. The GP's know this, the Pharmacy's know this, and all it takes is if you try a Brand in different Generic makes, and see for yourself. And again, this is knowing obviously, that the active ingredient is supposed to be the same - but it's the refined quality of the make. That is why, even on the Medical Pages, you will see that it clearly states 'some patients may need to be prescribed the actual Brand'. Why?????
Through MY own experience, I know which works and does not work so well for me and people I have spoken to, agree. Only people who do not know, or do not read up on medication, know any difference.
It's also a VERY good idea to broaden your knowledge on medication, because on three occassions, I have been given incorrect medication with my name on (something that could be construed as just another 'generic name') and I have ALSO been given medication with incorrect dosages and incorrect strengths!!!
To top and confirm what I am saying - I was in a hospital once (shared a room with someone else) - thankfully I ALWAYS read my charts and I know ALL my medicines past and present. I'm saying this, because I was given my room-patient's medication, and she was given mine. I saw that immediately - well obviously, the nurse was suspended and whatever else follows. So I KNOW my facts.

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Hi there - if you know someone - that'll be great.
I don't agree with what the 'pharmacies' say -
Tablets you got in Africa were not as 'refined' as in the UK and USA.
And the different 'generics' have different effects. It's not the actual 'active ingredient, it's the process. And I had a lot of Medical Practitioners who agreed on this arguement.
The codeine in the UK does nothing compared to what we got in Africa for instance.
And, we used to get Plain Codeine Tablets in Zim over the counter. Here, you have to be dying to get one.
I'm just 'talking' to you. Hope you don't mind.
If you have a good site, I'd appreciate it. I have found a site that only supplies 4 calming/sleeping tablets - no pain killers.
You have a great day :-)

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Well, my facts are also in line with Medical Personnel I have come across over the years. Active Ingredients are the same - but it's the refinement of them - that is why some have different reactions on patients. I know quite a bit about medication.
So please don't tell me to get my facts straight - that's just rude.

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Are you still stuck? If so let me know and also what part of uk are you?

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Concerned Pharmacy Personnel, maybe YOU need to get YOUR facts straight! Ever heard of the Hatch-Waxman act of 1984 that allows generics to differ by a plus or minus 20% of the active ingredient that name brand medications have? Look it up, because you seriously need to know THE REAL FACTS and stop your condescending attitude toward all of us suffering in pain!!

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I'm on oxycodone in the UK it's generic name is longtec, I'm on 40mg twice a day for ostio arthritis sorry can't spell it, after reading everything here i would have to agree it does not last 12hrs but it's so much better than the 50mg tramadol i was on, what worried me is in America all i her on the program COPS Is people abusing oxicodone,i only got it's not as dangerous as they say

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Sorry, this is an old post but I had to correct the 20% error. This isn't and never has been a legal allowance in the US for generic drugs. They must be EQUIVALENT in strength and active ingredients, no exceptions. A 20% difference could kill somone with certain drugs with narrow therapeutic and toxicity ranges. 20% is a HUGE difference...for 10 mg it changes the strength to 8 mg. If you need further info on this, check it out: fda.gov/downloads/AboutFDA/Transparency/Basics/UCM226568.pdf

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J, YES, I am still stuck. I received Greenstone alprazolam 2mg bars, 10mg brand ADDERALL, 10mg Mallinckrodt DEXTROSTAT, 15mg DEXEDRINE SPANSULES, & (NEW) VICODIN 10/300mg [15] but no PURE hydrocodone, ZOHYDRO 50mg capsules... As it was, I found that 40mg Vicodin HP (NEW) was only about the potency of 3 x 40mg DF118 and not enough for the more euphoric/anxiolytic effect of hydrocodone to break through.

P.S. My doctor still refuses to change me onto the 120mg OC tablets or to prescribe any rescue meds, which I get on a UK Private Rx (dipipanone) and NL Rx (PALFIUM dextromoramide tartrate - IMO the best IR analgesics available to me.) I would love also to have a prescription of Endo OPANA 10mg - which I am reliably told is the only oxymorphone brand, except ER 40mg by GLOBAL PHARMA, orange 'G74's, apart from maybe Mallinckrodt's '1001' pink 10mg. I have been warned against Roxane's version with code beginning '54', and that Teva's are utter garbage. So yes, I know it's a year since I got a notification about this thread, but there is your post and it would be churlish to ignore it! Apparently of all hydro/apap combos, the New Vicodin HP (10/300mg) is head and shoulders above the rest, though a friend, sadly now deceased, loved Mallinckrodt M367, containing 325mg apap.

I hear also that FIORICET with or without codeine, and the IDENTICAL Watson generic, made on the same production line, unknown here, is the best headache tablet one can possibly be prescribed - something to do with the effect of butalbital on brain blood vessels... dihydrocodeine or combo thereof are virtually as useless as acetaminophen.

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I don't know where you live but in Florida all pain mgmt doctors prescribe breakthrough pain meds. Are You seeing a pain specialist or just the family doctor? There is a big difference between the two especially in the limits they can prescribe.

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Re: myra brackins (# 1)

Hello
I just read your post. I am an American citizen who lives in the UK. It is 2017 and the problem with pain meds are still the same in the UK. It's horrible. The pain meds make me so ILL and there is nothing for this breakthrough pain. I had good medicine for pain in America but have no choice but to stay in bed due to my back condition. There is some nearve damage now. The NHS is installing a chair lift but will not prescribe proper pain meds. Does anyone know of a way to get proper pain medication in the UK?

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myra brackins (# 1) --
Hello
I just read your post. I am an American citizen who lives in the UK. It is 2017 and the problem with pain meds are still the same in the UK. It's horrible. The pain meds make me so ILL and there is nothing for this breakthrough pain. I had good medicine for pain in America but have no choice but to stay in bed due to my back condition. There is some nerve damage now. The NHS is installing a chair lift but will not prescribe proper pain meds. Does anyone know of a way to get proper pain medication in the UK?

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I am looking for either Vermor 60mg or Sevredol and wonder if you know of any pharmacies? In exchange I will track down suppliers of Dicodid. The problem nowadays is if they aren't blister packaged, what is in them?

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