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I HAVE BEEN ON OXYCODONE FOR OVER 2 YEARS AND MY DRUG STORE RAN OUT AND GAVE ME ENDOCET? SAID IT WAS THE SAME THING BUT MY BODY TELLS ME THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME. HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS CHANGE?

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I agree

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I was prescribed the usual percocet for a fractured rib. A few months ago, I had a broken wrist and am familiar to pain meds.... This time I received endo gen brand. I took it 3 nights in a row,and all 3, I was paralyzed awake in pain for hours! I've taken percocet before, but this was horrible!! Pharmacy said I was crazy so Im left in pain with bad meds.....

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I dont care about the science, I KNOW MY BODY. Speaking from experience, ENDOCET IS WORTHLESS. It does not help my pain at all. Watson oxycodone is the only med that has ever helped my pain. My pharmacy gave me endocet this time and I am in agony. Feels like I took a sugar pill. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. EVERY HUMAN BODY WILL REACT DIFFERENTLY. SOME WILL RESPOND MORE TO ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT FOR ME ENDOCET IS WORTHLESS.

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@ Genie
I beg your pardon ! Yes, some of the people are abusers and some are not. You have no idea what kind of pain that Fibro can cause. It is just as bad as cancer pain my dear. The pain is so bad that you can't sleep, can't walk, can't open a door and hardly pull your clothes off. I was misdiagnosed for the past 10 years and guess what, the steroids that were given to me all that time has completely depleted my immune system. I have no spleen now - and just had to go on disability for the fact that this pain is so bad it is horrible. Taking more pain meds are a choice for someone. Not all people do that. I have been on pain meds for years and can put them down tomorrow if i wanted to or needed to. Sometimes I bare the pain so that I will not take the pill. I hate taking pills. But for you to say that all of this basically is nonsense and your going to close them down, pooy on you.....know who your talking to and what their problems are. Pain clinics do put people on a lot of different things, if you some went there, then he knew what he was putting in his mouth.

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Just had artificial disc replacement surgery 3 weeks ago (L4-5) - was originally prescribed Endocet when sent home from the hospital. When I picked up my new script today for what I thought to be the same thing, they'd refilled it with Oxycodone. I've taken both, so I don't really have an issue with it. I think right after surgery, the Endocet was the better RX to use. And now the Oxycodone will be perfectly fine with me being able to return to light activities around the house & begin hydro physical therapy. And yes, you take your meds as prescribed, as needed, and then be done with them!!

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I had a concern with my meds also, I was taking oxycodone and today I was prescribed endocet for rotator cuff surgery, I wanted to know what the differance was, I must say that there are some extreamly informed people on this site. Jojo may be rude or whatever be he is on top of his facts. I just took my first dose of endocet at 2:30 and it is now 2:58 and I am already getting relief from my pain. I think with any meds that alter the way a person feels they can be abused, long story short, use them to get you through the pain and use them right and be done with them!

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OMG YES! I thought it was just me but this endocet is AWFUL. I have been taking percocet for years and also switched and I'm dizzy all the time, sick to my stomach..does not touch the pain. It's terrible.

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Call me crazy, but, am I the only person who PREFERS Endocet? I've never smoked nor tried a single illegal drug...I do drink socially, however. I've suffered chronic neck injuries the past several years, and didn't like any of the meds my doc gave, so, I just stopped taking them. Last year, I was attacked by a madman with a knife and the doctor prescribed perks. The pharmacy gave me Endocet, and magically, it not only cleared my sinus almost immediately upon each use, but, rather than putting me out and distracting me from the pain, it literally made me feel as though the pain is simply gone temporarily. When I ran out, I used some Oxycodones my sister was prescribed after I was in extremely deserpate need of pain relief. I've used maybe four or five, and I must say, I'm not at all pleased with Oxycodones. It doesn't have the sinus-clearing effect at all, and although it minimizes my pain, it makes me feel extremely drowsy and weak for days. I'm going to ask my doc to put me on the Endocets. Maybe I'm different because I'm not much of a pill popper, but, I much prefer the Endocets!

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Charles, the 325 is acetaminophen (active ingredient in Tylenol)

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From what I have read from some
of you. Most of you's got it made.
What I mean is that everytime I ask
my Doctor for the Endocet 7/325
she tries to redirect me to an Orthopedic whereas I know that even a regular Doctor can give you
a prescription. I have no problem paying for this GENERIC brand of
Endocet. When I was getting this
medication from my wife Surgeon,
I only had to pay $2.40 regarless of the amount. I have 3 herniated disks and you can believe it's no laughing matter. Any activities that I do in the household I definite need me a tablet or two in the aftermath. Anyway Endocet work fine for me. Try 7.5/325 or 10/325.
The 325 is only aspirin which does
nothing. So ask your Doctor for a
higher MG and less aspirin.

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Lamagonzo, I st your bubble but the RPh on your lable stands for the registered pharmacist who filled your RX. It is not a brand but where the pharmacist is suppose to put their initals for fill the that bottle.

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I began taking oxycodone 10/325 for extensive dental work. I had 3 scrips filled... First was the long white oxycodone, second was the round circle oxycodone, and third was the Endocet. The round oxycodone worked the best for me and had the fastest and most consistent results. The long white oxycodone hit me like a ton of bricks the very first time (not much of a pill taker), but never got that feeling again with them... maybe if I didn't eat... The Endocet takes over 2 hours to start working and makes me itch like crazy. I am now on percocet 10/325 due to extensive nerve and spine damage... I ONLY take one pill per night before bed to help function during the week, and nothing on the weekends. I intend to stay on this system for as long as possible (I went 11 months without any insurance and no help w/ pain and didn't realize how much pain I was in until the dentist prescribed them to me). Anyways, I rarely take medication, in no way abuse these pills and I notice a difference in them. The Endocets irritate me enough that I will be ensuring that I do not end up with them again, but the oxycodone... I will take the long ones one an empty stomach with a cup of milk... and the round ones are great, so either/or, I'll make it work.

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THIS IS FOR: JOJO

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ONE OF THE RUDEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WITH VERY LOW, LOW SELF ESTEEM. GO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND YOU'LL SEE WHO THE IDIOT IS.

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Was on Watson 10/325 oxy. Made the mistake of taking script to different pharmacy. They filled the script with endocet. I realize it's the same drug, but the generic Watson seemed to be much stronger. Just my opinion. Thanks for all you're interesting posts.

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1) I've been on both ends: as a registered nurse and also a 'chronic' pain patient. Meaning my pain is not daily but recurring monthly for up to 10 - 12 days per month. I've never had a drug addiction problem but my body does respond to this 'back & forth-ness.' I write everything down for my own recording - because if I'm not careful I will sometimes experience physical symptoms of withdrawal for up to 4 days. Even if I taper down correctly......2) Verwon is right: Inactive ingredients will not always but **can** affect how a patient experiences medication. Factors vary but they can indeed get in the way of effectiveness. And generics are **not** all equal. Trust me when I say Big Pharma, the FDA, pharmacists, nurses & doctors are not all on the same page. They're not gods, only human and this means not perfect. Some pharmacists (our best resource for drug information actually - they know more about what should be happening, the ideal and also detailed drug information more than MD's) -- but some do know about this difference. Others are in denial or just brainwashed in a way, for lack of a better term. Just like other health professionals (including nurses)..... 3) I've experienced a few different brands of generic oxycodone/APAP & also brand name Percocet. Tolerance build ups notwithstanding, there is **definitely** a difference between brand & generic as well as generics themselves - re effectiveness and sometimes side effects. Again, factors vary. People who rarely take this kind of an Rx tend to be more sensitive and less likely to notice any such differences in terms of effectiveness. Percocet 2.5 can hit 'infrequent-flyers' like a big stone on the head. Vs. someone like me, 2.5 would not touch my pain at all (even my regular physician was horrified when I returned from a vacation once many years ago. Because I I'd had a very messy emergency and the clinician at the walk-in facility prescribed 2.5's after treating me. My doctor back home was actually very upset, almost called her. And I digress).....Anyway, this is based on my experience with med-surg in-patients reporting to me as well as my own personal feedback.....4) Since my Rx schedule is fairly regular and again, I'm aware of the tolerance factor, I believe I can tell the difference (subjective, of course) between the generics.....Last time I went to the pharmacy I was given Mallinckrodt oxy/apap 5/325 (4.48 mg oxycodone hydrochloride/325 mg Acetaminophen) and a few other times, too. I always go to the same pharmacy for this when in my current home city and they will also use other generic brands. Long way around to saying that in my experience Mallinckrodt is not as effective as others..... 5) There is no way any of us can know what goes on during manufacturing outside of inspection times. I still believe most people are good but all pharmaceutical companies are businesses and they want to make money, profits (we're talking billion$$ in the double digits + for them), same as most of us need to. Only they are not always 100% honest about what goes into pills & capsules, side effects, true effectiveness, etc. Google it, there have been lawsuits.....6) Re what Woodstock 2009 Says and only to clarify: Hydrocodone combination products are not as strong as oxycodone. Typically it is that 15 mg of hydrocodone mixed product (example: as in when blended with acetaminophen) is about the same as 10 mg of oxycodone. Less oxycodone blended product (per mg) is needed to get the same relief **if** they both would work at some dosage for a person's pain. Last I checked oxycodone + it's blended products are Schedule 2, 'plain' hydrocodone is also schedule 2. Hydrocodone blended products are Schedule 3. And if anyone is wondering, something like heroin is considered a Schedule 1 drug......7) Best to have your MD write a prescription so that you have a free & clear choice between brand name or generic.....8) It's kind of crazy sometimes from my perspective - because I'm trained to recognize drug seeking behavior so I'm always of 2 minds. To be honest (& so very human!) it's hard not to get a smidgen paranoid when I have to advocate for myself. When I once needed to ask a pharmacist about something related I could see the red flags in his eyes. He was polite but I could see & feel what he was thinking. Then twice in the last 3 years I had to go to the ER at a local hospital at night. I told the hospital physicians about my regular Rx (which I was in between) and comfortably it seemed, both times, they went on and prescribed pain meds. This was appropriate. But when I next saw my doc & told him it was very stressful. He was not thrilled but was really okay about it in the end.....At another much later time, after seriously delaying the reporting of feeling under-medicated: suffering motivated me to finally get honest and advocate for myself. We had a long discussion about the tolerance - dependency- potential addiction aspects and he said was not worried. But, naturally, he was now aware of this change Which is what should happen if a doctor is diligent & true. He did increase the number of tablets of my prescription. But I never want to experience that again.....10) In my 'world' there is a cure for all adverse medical conditions. They just have to be uncovered. This is my sincere belief. I've also been trained in the use of a short list of holistic treatments and make use of those for myself as well. combining methods can sometimes help. My doctors never mind this as long as I am not being harmed. I consider an integrated, holisistic approach to my health care since there is no legitimate need for modalities to be at war. Any MD or NP who is trained and experienced in additional therapies knows this.....I intend to be well - so to not need narcotic medication for the rest of my life. Incidentally, I do think that these kinds of strong, narcotic Rx's will be a thing of the past sometime within the next 100 to 150 years. That new discoveries & understandings will naturally allow for this. Until that time (and after, too): making use of our resources (including experienced, smartly educated professionals) & **self-education**, self-advocacy -- and no one being alone in this -- these things are key. The medical model will be very different in the next century and that will be a blessing for everyone.

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I read these comments and I sit here and cry, It is so sad that our Physicians are legal drug dealers, give you a med works a while and then you need more, Sad thing is they give it to you. A little more each time till you are so addicted that NOTHING works but DEATH. and that is exactly where it ends. My son died from legal drug pushers. Pain Clinic's What a laugh. God help me I am still grieving my loss. He took it the way it was prescribed, Then Fentanyl was ordered. upping the dosage each month.from 25mcg to 100mcg in 4 months. I am very bitter and I feel for family's who are going to experience the HELL of losing a child. I am on a mission to get these clinics closed. If you need meds that are strong enough for cancer pts. and dying pt's then go in a hosp. Or a rehab center, That is where you are headed. You have a choice. Rehab or Death.

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I hads been taking Mallie Oxy 5/325 for about 6 months and noticed after the seventh fill that the strength had decreased roughly by HALF! I found a sympathetic pharmacist who carried two types of the Oxy: Mallie and a generic shorthand called RPh. These RPhs are approximately twice as strong as the Mallies. Does anybody know what RPh is? I'll never use MALLIE AGAIN EVER!

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the oxycodone shortage had the whole country looking for anything contain oxycodone, endocet, perocet, roxicodone, oxycontin, the year of 2008 has been the worse year for generic medications, they suppose to be the same active ingredeints but the inactive fillers can be a little different, the equilevencly of hydrocodone 10 is the same as oxycodone 15, meaning it takes that much more to receive the same releif, some people require less, this strictly my opinion

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My experience thus far, endocet feels no different then vicodin for pain relief- percocet has killed pain the other two have not. Why this is, I don't know except perhaps varying proportions of the opiate drug. I'm not entering an opinion, I'm simply conveying my personal experience.

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Rob, you are building up a tolerance to the meds this is why you do not get the same effects as before. This will continue to happen over the months and years until you cannot find a ned that helps, dont feel bad we are all in the same boat.

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