Clonazepam Ingredients Solco Brand Vs Actavis
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I have been taking TEVA clonazepam .5 for years and it was very effective! Now I hear that TEVA does not make it anymore. I was prescribed it via ACCORD mfg with very poor results... headaches, nervous, and more. I hear that the are also SOLCO and AVTIVIS mfg. I need some input re which one would be better... or any others. I heard that the inactive ingredients have a lot to do with it. I also know ACCORD is made in China and have heard some horror stories about their clonozepam. ANY INPUT GREATLY APPRECIATED!!
Re: Eric (# 10)
Yo estoy pasando por lo mismo llevaba 30 años usando CLONOCEPAN ÁCCORD HEA y me las cambiaron por TEVA y SOLCO y no soy el mismo ya no quiero trabajar no puedo dormir mi vida a cambiado ya ME SIENTO MAL NO ME AYUDAN ESTA BASURAS QUE ME ESTAN DANDO CADA VEZ 3ESTOY PEOR SIN ANIMO MI MENTE BLOQUEADA Y NO SE QUE HACER ??
Re: suzysurf (# 20)
I don't believe there is any active ingredient in the solco brand either. I only took this new manufacturer pill for one night but I felt extremely drugged-up very different from how I feel when I'm on the Accord manufacturer Klonopin. Solco is based in China and I just don't trust that the s*** is real
Re: Melissa (# 8)
I completing agree with you. solco took me by surprise how strong it was compared to all others!
I don't understand what everyone is talking about. I've been in clonazepam for well over a decade. yes even when the Norman teva were out back in the day they weren't the best, qualitest was. I couldn't find qualitest anymore one month and found they were remaking the old teva. I took it for several months and it was meh... ok. this month however I went to get my tevas and opened my bottle to find blue pills that looked like the qualitest. I called and found out that solco bought out qualitest and kept their logo but not the formula. I found it was solco, one I never heard of. I gotta tell you guys, it blew me away! comparable to Roche if you ask me. especially sublingual it's amazing. so don't just let other people's comments effect how your pills are going to treat you. these comments can have a placebo line effect. the solco are way better than actavis-teva, mylan, accord, and any others out there. I will get solco over actavis-teva again.
Re: Connie (# 4)
I also was prescribed brand solco at 0.5 and they do not work at all. Recently took xanax for 38 years now new doctor didn't want to prescribe. This has been a awful mess. Panic attacks anxiety and I can't sleep. I hope to find a doctor soon.
Re: ArlisT (# 37)
Thanks. And how are the new/old Tevas? Can you feel the difference? Curious. I am hoping it is the original formula.
I’m going to drive around on Sunday to go to different pharmacies to find out who is carrying what brands. They will not tell you over the phone in NYS which is the big difficulty. They have to know that you have an active script. So it’s illegal to tell you over phone if you don’t use that pharmacy. Even still I’ve had better luck with any yellow ones vs. blue generics. So I will drive around and see who is carrying Teva and I will also call my pharmacy and ask them if they can order the Teva because the Par ODTs make me feel just as lousy.
I think my doctor will be OK and understanding about it. The problem is there are only so many times he can run continue to write me the script if I am testing negative for the medication. But I’m going to double up right before the test because the ODTs make me feel badly. That’s the only thing I can think to do. I see him on Wednesday. So I’m gonna drive to the different pharmacies tomorrow and today and ask what they carry. And see what they say. But thanks for the heads up on that. My sister told me the same thing, that she heard TEVA had come back out with clons again. That’s good news. And thank goodness you have a doctor that listens as well..??
So my doctor kind of half believes me and half doesn’t. But he’s always wanting to give me the benefit of the doubt. I take another medication that I have to test for as well. And it is also a controlled substance. And I have never failed that one. So I know that deep down he believes me. But unfortunately their office has policies.
Let me know how you’re doing on the Teva brand. Very interested. Thanks, suzysurf
Re: suzysurf (# 36)
Did you know that the regular TEVA Clonazepam 1 mg tablets are back on the market? On another forum I belong to, several people have stated they have been able to get them since late September. I still have almost a full prescription of the ODTs, but before they run out I am going to see my Dr and ask to be put back on the regulars.
I, too, find the ODTs seem not to be as effective. I mean, they are in the short run, it's just the effect is not as long-lasting. Dr wrote me for an extra on in the middle of the day. I hope you can work it out. It's not easy to get these things in the right balance, and a cooperative Dr helps. It sounds like yours is giving you difficulty, and asking him to switch you again so soon might be hard, but you should try. Tell him (or her) that you appreciate him working with you on this and explain how the regular TEVA used to work fine for you, and these ODTs wear off too quickly. He should want to help you. If not, you may need to find a Dr who understands how debilitating anxiety can be. Maybe a psychiatrist. First, find out if your pharmacy can get regular TEVA clonazepam 1 mg tablets. Apparently, they aren't available everywhere yet.
Re: ArlisT (# 31)
It’s gotten ridiculous. And it’s not just with this medication. Clonazepam seems to be the worst. But diazepam and also has a problem. That’s the actual medication I’m supposed to be on. But they can never get the dosage right with the generics. Anyway, what I just heard on the news the other day was drugs have to be within 20% of not the original drug formula but other generics. So that means you could keep on taking the Generic with the lowest active ingredient and go 19% below that. Then the next person can go 19% below that till eventually you’re getting a freaking sugar pill. I still don’t feel great Arlis. The ODT, does not seem to last as long in my system. I went to a red cross blood donation today. And they said that my pulse rate was really high. They asked if I was really anxious or having heart difficulties. And I just said it was white coat syndrome or whatever, I said I was afraid of needles.
But the fact is, I have a feeling that once again there’s very little medication in my system for my pulse to be that high. My blood pressure was low, my pulse was not. So basically the 1 mg ODT doesn’t really work. I don’t know what to do. I’m going to go to Walmart this weekend and see if they carry the yellow pills and try Price chopper which also has a pharmacy and see if they carry the yellow brand. Because the yellow ones always seem to work just a little bit better than the blue ones. At least for me they do.
Hi, I had a similar problem. I take Clonazepam for epilepsy, Meniere's disease and Anticipatory and generalized anxiety disorders. I have labs drawn every two months. They do a cheek swab, a urinalysis and back up bloodwork. For the past three test the blue pills which are all made by Soclo and Accord, have not shown up in my labs. It showing up that I am not taking them. I take them three times a day. The last test was weird it showed that there was an enough to test level. But the previous two showed that I had none in my system at all. Which is impossible if I am taking it three times a day. I talk to every pharmacist and they said that generics are all the same and that the only reason that it would be coming up Negative was I wasn’t taking it and possibly selling it. Pharmacists can be very judgmental. I did speak with my own pharmacy, they are privately owned/family on Pharmacy. They said they were getting a new brand called accord. I checked it out And it showed it was the same manufacture. So I asked my doctor about it. He didn’t really believe it either but he said what he would do would switch me to the orally disintegrating tablets so now I am taking the 1 mg ODT. There was some change. I did start to feel better. But, they are still not as strong as the yellow ones and they wear off much quicker. And the reason I am on the clonazepam versus the Valium which is more indicated for Meniere’s disease Is there have been many problems getting the dosage right on the volume. The same problems exist with this medication too. They’re really bad generics out there so it’s almost impossible to get a similar dosage or an equivalent dosage to that of Clonazepam.
When I was first diagnosed with the vertigo disease, they tried switching me but it was unsuccessful. They kept having to up the dosage because it just wasn’t working. The only time the Valium ever worked for me was when I was giving it in the hospital.
My suggestion to you is to have your doctor write it for the orally disintegrating tablets. Or ODT. And your pharmacy should fill it and most insurances will pay for this.
Mine did and it has made a difference. But, still it’s not as good as the yellow ones that I used to be on. I don’t know which yellow generics I was on but they seem to work much much better. But at least the ODT is better than the blue ones. However they don’t seem to last as long in my system. But at least I don’t feel seizureish anymore. But the anxiety is still pretty bad. But it’s still better than the blue ones. I suggest you give it a try. I hope this is helpful.
When it doesn’t show up in your labs for six months, that’s a problem. That tells me that would’ve been taking is basically garbage. Anyway let me know how you make out. I would be interested to see What people think about the orally disintegrating and the efficacy. And also what pharmacies or what pharmacy chains do carry the yellow generic tablets. They have always seem to work better even if they are generic. Maybe it’s the blue dye that disagrees with me. I’m not sure. But I’d be interested to see how you make out. So please get back to me.
After Teva was discontinued i tried the Solco and did not like it. The Actavis is what i take now, it doesnt work as well as the Teva did, but it does work, just doesnt last as long. The good news is that Teva just brought back the 1 mg pills, so ask your pharmacy if they can order them.
I was having the same problem. They take the medication for epilepsy and anxiety and Meniere’s disease. It was not showing up in my lab work, neither the swab, U/A, and back up blood work. My past three tests all came up negative. Why as for where as my other medications show the proper levels. And it was ever since they switched me to the blue pills which are both made by Soclo and Accord. Apparently accord is the same as the Soclo. I had my doctor switched me to the 1 mg 0DT or orally disintegrating tablets. And I now feel much better. We will see what my next lab shows. And hopefully it will show that I am taking the medication and that it is showing up on my labs. I couldn’t figure out why I wasn’t feeling right. Why I always felt pre seizurish. And the anxiety was just through the roof. I’ve been on the ODT for a week now and I’m starting to feel much much better. It doesn’t last quite as long in your system. But clonazepam has a very long half life so it should be fine with a direct switch. Talk to your doctor about it. Also it does get into your system faster because it dissolves under the tongue. Just give it a try. And many people had this problem where it doesn’t turn up in their labs if they’re taking the blue made pills. B****, I’ll really come under the same maker. There’s also a link someplace in here that shows you each medication and an exactly what the fillers are. Also with the ODT there are only a couple of companies that make this version of clonazepam so the chances of you getting something that’s basically placebo or 20% active ingredient are slim to none. Just give it a try. My thoughts are with you. Just because I went through the same exact thing. Let me know how it goes.
Re: ArlisT (# 31)
Exactly. They do not have to order it. But because I have use this pharmacy for 15 years. They will even deliver to your house. And when I used to get seizures all the time and couldn’t drive, they would deliver my medications. But they are really good about knowing what I need and what brands I need. There’s another medication that I take where there are two generics. One is really tiny and one is much larger. And I found a larger one to be much more effective plus it takes longer to dissolve as well. And it just works better. So they always make sure they have it for me... And it’s one of those companies that keeps changing names. They used to be Westwood. Or I think they were something else before Westwood. But so far so good with the Par ODT. I’ll be having labs done to see if they show up or not. I guess that will be the real truth. The other medication that I mentioned that dissolves, the one brand shows up at a high level in my system where as the other brand does not. It shows up but not at the same level.
But, pharmacists can be real jerks sometimes. They don’t have to tell you anything over the phone, they don’t have to tell you even if they have a medication in stock or they carry it. Unless they have your prescription on file. I literally had to drive around to different pharmacies to ask what brand they carried and they would only tell me after I showed them my prescription bottle. And then they told me that that was a big mess and that all generics were exactly alike. I said well then why isn’t it showing up in my blood work and labs. I said they’ve done all sorts of laboratory work.
Urine, swab and blood. It showed up and none of them. I said how was that possible. They said well you’re not taking them. I said I do to take them because if I didn’t take them I’d be on the floor. And they said well we can’t help you. So yeah they can be real jerks. My doctor really didn’t believe me at first. But he was OK with switching medications to the ODT. He just assumed I wasn’t taking it. I said listen dude I said I can’t not take it. But I’ll let you know how the labs come out.
Thank you Arlis.
Re: Suzysurf (# 30)
I never heard of Par before either. I hope it works for you and they keep you on it. That switching between brands every few months is murder. I have Medicaid, which every state runs differently. Most times you can't get a name brand from them unless there is no generic alternative, or you have a doctor who will advocate for you to get the name brand. As far as specific generic brands, that just depends on the pharmacy. If your doctor writes for it and your pharmacy will order it for you, that's great. I've lived in several different states and I have learned they are under no obligation to do so.
Re: suzysurf (# 28)
Arlie, he switched me to the 1 mg ODT. The weird thing is I had a horrible ocular migraine on Friday night. And then picked up my script the next day. Then had a horrible headache for two days. I think the migraine those started because I wasn’t on really any medication. The doctor really didn’t believe me that there’s differences in generics. He said it’s possible. My pharmacy ( I use an Independent family own pharmacy) They believe me. However my insurance will not pay for a dispense as written brand name. Because they said there’s no real proof that there’s differences between generic and brand-name. But usually with epilepsy they will make that exception. That way you’re not switching between different generics. So they really do know deep down but they just don’t want to tell people.
But so far, so good, I’m starting to feel better. The ODT I am on is made by Par pharmaceutical. It’s still not as good as the yellow tablets that I used to take. But it’s much better than the blue ones. Both the Soclo, And my only other option was Accord.
I will let you know what happens when I have my next labs done on October 9. They usually take a couple days to come in but I will let you know if they show up on my loves or not. I’m assuming they will.
Re: Lori (# 25)
Hey Lori, I thought I would update you.
My doctor switched me to the 1 mg ODT. However it’s a brand I’ve never heard of so I have no idea if this is going to work or not. After being on practically nothing because it wasn’t showing up on my lab work, this feels kind of week but I’m still feeling some thing. So I’m not sure. The brand is Par pharmaceutical. The wafers are extremely tiny. There about half the size of a 1 mg tablets that I used to take. I mean the diameter is less than 1/4 of an inch. And I know they have to put fillers in the orally disintegrating so that way it works. I don’t know if you’ve had any experience with these. Let me know. And I will keep you posted as to if they work.
I was able to fall asleep last night for the first time in a long time. But they really don’t seem to be doing much else. But it could take me a couple days to get back to normal again. Who knows.
Re: ArlisT (# 24)
I will let u know what he says on Friday. I am going to ask for the 1 mg orally disintegrating tablets. Or ODT. However I don’t know if that will be equivalent and dosage to the 1 mg tablets I am supposed to be taking three times a day. I do know they are immediate release so I don’t know if they last as long in your system. Or if they will leave me covered. But I guess anything is better than what I am on since it’s not showing in my labs, it basically means I’m not covered at all. I had what they call missed eclampsia, when I had my second daughter. It was a full moon and 40 babies were born in a little city hospital that weekend. Lots of babies came a few weeks early. So Sophia was born a few weeks early but she was perfectly formed. But I could not keep down food because I had a hyper emesis which is where you vomit throughout the whole pregnancy. So she just wanted to come out and be fed I imagine. But she did come home with me. But my blood pressure at the hospital was 205/105 and I only weighed 108 pounds. They told me to lay on my left side and the next thing you know I’m being discharged. I went home and about 3 weeks after discharge I had my first tonic clonic seizure.
Then I had one once a year for the next few years always the same time and night.
And then I got the Meniere’s disease and vertigo out if the blue. But my father had it so that maybe why. But this is not the first time this is happened. About 6 to 8 years ago they took me off clonazepam because it wasn’t showing up on my blood work so my doctor thought I was selling it. Three months off of the closet pan and only on Vimpat, I had another seizure. So I always need that closet pan for a second seizure medication. My psychiatrist prescribes it. Because it can also be used for anticipatory anxiety and generalized anxiety. Which I have both of due to the medical issues. Now mind you I sound like I’m really sick, but I have a job and I teach school, I’ve raised two beautiful daughters. I have a wonderful husband. I’m not some so sick that I’m strung out on meds.
But I also have to take care of myself. And that means taking my medication as prescribed. And if I have one more seizure, I will lose my license for good. But I will let you know how it goes. Hopefully he will Write a script for the clonazepam ODT. I know my insurance will fill it. Because my daughter was on it. So I know they will fill it. The question is will he write it when he’s thinking I’m not taking it at all. That’s my big concern. But I’ll let you know how it goes thanks for write a script for the clonazepam ODT. I know my insurance will fill it. Because my daughter was on it. So I know they will fill it. The question is will he write it when he’s thinking I’m not taking it at all. That’s my big concern. But I’ll let you know how it goes amd thanks for all the support that I’ve been getting from the community forum. ??
Re: Lori (# 25)
Thanks for the support. I do use a private pharmacy. I need to speak to the head pharmacist then. They told me they got some new Brandon but I didn’t recognize the name and it sounds like it comes from a foreign country so it’s probably garbage. My appointment is this Friday where I have to try to explain to my doctor and hope that he understands why it’s not showing up on my blood work. There’s even some doctors that don’t believe this. Because it’s not showing up in my blood work and my cheek swab to make sure I’m not taking other medications like Xanax or anything like that. So it showing up in neither .
My other prescription meds are showing up. So he just thinks I’m not taking it. The only reason I went to Rite Aid was I was in the store so I brought my prescription up to the counter and asked the lady what brand they carried and told her my situation and she was terrible. She was so mean to me. Saying that all generics are exactly alike and that I just have to tough it out. And that they don’t special order for anything or anyone. I live in New York State, so it’s not like I can call around to Pharmacy‘s. They cannot give Information about controlled substances over the phone. They can tell you if you have an active prescription there at that particular pharmacy. But they can’t tell you if you don’t. So I can’t call every pharmacy in the area and ask them what brand of clonazepam they carry. But I’m a mess. I feel like garbage.
I can however drive all over the Tri-County area and bring my prescription in. But my husband thinks that’s foolish. He thinks it’s a waste of my time. And he thinks that I shouldn’t be on this medication anyway. He thinks I’m on too many medications. He does not believe in medicine. And he actually wrongly believed that it was probably medicine to begin with that caused my seizures. When it wasn’t, it was full-blown eclampsia. That’s when I started having them. And then about six years ago I started getting vertigo and that got worse and worse and worse. I’ve tried taking Valium for that. But they can never seem to get the dosage right where I get any actual relief. Either that or I’m getting Bunk medication. And I’m worried too that if my doctor writes for the orally dissolving or ODT, that they won’t be able to get the dosage right and he’ll insist that the 3 mg mdd ODT a day is the same as 3 mg mdd tablets a day.
Which because they’re so quickly acting I really doubt they are. I’m assuming they don’t last as long in your system. Let me know if you know anything about that, if you know anything about what the doctor should be doing if I’m on 3- 1mg. Tablets a day of clonazepam, would be just switch me to 3 -1 mg. ODT??
It’s just a scary thing. Anyway thank you for replying.
Re: suzysurf (# 23)
Pharmacists and many doctors will commonly say that all generics are exactly the same, but there are doctors and pharmacists that know this is just not so. My doctor when I lived in CA and my doctor here since I moved to Indiana told me that is a canned response, but all these generics are definitely NOT the same, and that the different brands definitely affect different people in different ways. Some doctors and pharmacists will admit it and work with you to find which is best for you, but if you are working with a pharmacy that doesn't acknowlege the differences, they may not be willing to get a specified brand for you, and will insist on giving you whichever brand they have in stock. You end up getting the brand changed from time to time, because when they order a new supply they typically get whatever brand is cheapest for them. This was my situation in CA, and I went through a lot of trouble taking my complaint further and further up the 'chain of command' at the pharmacy until I reached someone witht he compassion and authority to order my local branch to provide me the TEVA, and special order it for me so it was always on hand.
I was afraid when I moved to Indiana I would have to go through the same ordeal, but my local CVS apparently had a contract with TEVA, and they always gave me TEVA from the first time I filled my scrip there for almost three yearsall the way up to a few months ago, when TEVA stopped making it, and I got changed first to Accord brand (crap, IMHO), then to Activis (also crap). but when I found out about the Orally Dissolving Tablets, and had my doctor write them for me, the pharmacy happily got them for me. So I am lucky there.
If your pharmacist is telling you there is no such thing as TEVA ODT clonazepam, she is either ignorant, or straight-up lying to you. My doctor had never heard of them, but he quickly found them on line and wrote me the scrip.. The pharmacist had never heard of them, either, but having that prescription from my doctor, she had no choice but to look them up.
If you have a pharmacist who's peddling that 'all generics are identical' line, you'll have to find a more reasonable pharmacist, or if your pharmacy is part of a chain, go to their website, make your complaint to corporate, and try your luck with them.
Re: Anna (# 2)
Wow reading your story I was cringing inside recalling the same exact thing although mine was with Valium 10 msg.. Walgreens actually got into some sort of national dispute with the manufacturer and I had to transfer it to CVS! I take a great deal of medications chronic things and I’ve been a Walgreens customer for dozens of years and I truly dislike cvs but I had to transfer the Valium because I wasn’t gonna go thru all that again!! It was a nightmare.. I was on very very high dose at the time so I went into seizures requiring an ambulance and a lengthy hospital visit.. the doctors all agreed after running tests; blood work and compared with a very recent previous blood test and it clearly showed the difference in “Inactive Ingredients” of Valium 10mg tablets in my system and I have a myriad of chronic conditions so that’s how they easily figured it out with me but I doubt that the majority of people described these types of medications don’t just happen to have a handy a one week old comprehensive blood panel test results that they could to compare it to blood taken after switching the two manufacturers of the pill into my body like you guys experienced as well.. my sister takes Klonopin and she goes through or went through the same thing that you guys did but luckily she didn’t suffer any she was able to take both but she chose to go find the pharmacy that had the other ones the first ones but maybe that was just in part of her illness who knows right? She’s happy now and hopefully you’re happy now I’m happy now Wallgreens got it back by the way after six months so now I can get everything there again and I hope that everything goes well for you two!!
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