Can Subutex Be A Small White Round Pill With 8 On One Side And An Arrow On The Other (Page 6) (Top voted first)

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My friend takes 8mg subutex and when he picked up his script today, they weren't the usual white tablet. They were white and the size of a 2mg subutex with an 8 on one side and an arrow on the other. Could his pharmacist have made a big mistake or are these just a different brand??

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Re: lee uk (# 6) Expand Referenced Message

I’ve been taking subutex for 10 years with Xanax and adderall. I love the combo. But subs are good when they are the big white Roxanne’s. If you get 60 you get 2 of the bottles that the pharmacy gets. I take subs sublingually. Lots of people abuse them.

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Re: bennett johnson (# 4) Expand Referenced Message

I agree.
I really like these and I'm surprised that so many people do not
Unless they misuse them or something.

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Re: nikki (# 20) Expand Referenced Message

Yes you are just less filler same med congrats on getting better

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I have found that subutex & prefibin all come in bigger tablets & taste horrid. Buprenophine & temgesic are smaller & taste better and dissolve faster. They are all the same medication but cost differs. They all do the same thing. If in doubt open the box in the pharmacy and ask!!!

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itremble, i just read your post...hopefully you visit often and will read my post...i've been taking suboxone (i'm embarassed to say and pissed that i am embarassed, i shouldn't give a f***, but anyway) for 2 years and 2 months...it's better than what i was doing before and i know everybody says that, too, but nonetheless, it's my truth...i am taking much less now than i did the first year and a half...i was curious about what u meant about the nalaxone in suboxone? i think i just butchered the spelling of nalax but o well...my concern is that i guess they've stopped making the subox tablets...i think the strips are AWFUL. they make me sick...i have some. i got them for free thru the pharma co that makes them...i got 20 of them on 12/12/11 and here it is 12/19/12 and i still have 9 left. they've come in handy for emergencies and i always keep 2 in my wallet...the last time i had one about 3 months ago, i felt stoned out of my mind and could barely speak...i've never had subutex and im not sure i feel too good about it after all that i have read about it...im stock piling suboxone and trying to have as much on hand as i can, because i dread the day i go to get my script filled and told they only have the film.

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hi geoffrey...i just read your 12/24 post and have more questions, lol...i'm actually kinda smart, but when it comes to this stuff i get confused quick...i'm not sure which post of mine it is, but if you read the last 1 or 2 from 'Danielle' you should get a general idea of where i'm at and where i was...i have never taken anything besides the 8 mg subox name brand tablet and the name brand film...i was very lucky to learn about the suboxone the way i did...it was late september 2010, one day after my 40th bday, and i was in a place so bad even now my stomach sinks to my feet when i think about that night, and i'm glad I remember it because it keeps me vigilante and filled with a healthy fear...i had almost 5 years clean on my own, never heard of suboxone, and this time around i called a friend I'd lost touch with a year or 2 ago and suspected he'd had a bad go with pain killers...long story short, he gave me a few along with the name # & address of his doc...since 9/30/10 i've been off the killers...i was never aware of subutex until i joined this forum a little over a year ago...i wonder why my doctor didn't tell me about subutex...i think it seems more people take this over suboxone? i know that nasty ingredient in the subox is the stuff that's supposed to make it abuse proof, correct?

do you think my doctor would have a problem with my asking to try this other sub? I know it's a matter of time before my 30 day script gets filled with film...maybe it would be a good thing...im up for approval again (every 6 months) with my insurance, AETNA, to continue to cover my prescription which they've done for over 2 years...suboxone is the name brand only as you know, and while i have a $10 copay, i know this med is insanely high-priced, and perhaps I'll get booted in february and then my only real option would be subutex since i gather they have a generic....but i believe you may have said it was lousy? I must do some research here....thanks for any info u can provide...thank u....

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u tell the Doctor the truth. u r addicted to the pain pills either oxycontin hydrocodone hydromorphone dilautid percodan percoset morphine sulfate possibly darvon darvocet least of all tramadol ultram. Most likely H brown tar west coast china white eastcoast. the problem is once a person experiences the nirvana euphoria u dont realize its the drug. and when u do realize that ur addicted u can't go back. well u can try but u will be miserable like sleeping on the floor next to a feather bed

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Is buprenorphine 8mg evenly distributed its a little white pill with 8 on one side and a arrow on the other I want to only take 4mg and its a 8mg pill but I don't know if its evenly distributed

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To those completely ruling out varying generics not making a person feel as well, here is fact, science based evidence that you are mistaken: This is straight from the Suboxone Web site (information given to prescribers) and proves that bioavailabity (the amount of drug your body absorbes) can even vary among name-brand medications, in addition to generics:

12.3 Pharmacokinetics Absorption: In pharmacokinetic studies, the 2 mg/0.5 mg and 4 mg/1 mg doses administered as SUBOXONE sublingual films showed comparable relative bioavailability to the same total dose of SUBOXONE (buprenorphine and naloxone) sublingual tablets, whereas the 8 mg/2 mg and 12 mg/3 mg doses administered as SUBOXONE sublingual films showed higher relative bioavailability for both buprenorphine and naloxone compared to the same total dose of SUBOXONE (buprenorphine and naloxone) sublingual tablets. A combination of one 8 mg/2 mg and two 2 mg/0.5 mg SUBOXONE sublingual films (total dose of 12 mg/ 3 mg) showed comparable relative bioavailability to the same total dose of SUBOXONE (buprenorphine and naloxone) sublingual tablets [see Dosage and Administration (2.6 and 2.7)].

Bioavailabity is a big deal, and this is why medications like Zubsolv have come onto the market and are marketed in a way that emphasizes the drugs' comparative bioavailabities to the original Suboxone tablets. Zubsolv, for example, is scientifically proven to have a higher BA than the Suboxone films. A 6mg/2mg Zubsolv is therefore equal in strength to a 8mg/2mg Suboxone film, while their 4mg/2mg formulation is equal to a 2mg/2mg Suboxone filmstrip.

This proves there are perceptible differences in bioavailabity across the generics, as well, which would account for the same amount of drug not having the same effectiveness for a patient versus another generic medication.

It's also the same reason companies advertise their formulations of Aspirin as being more effective than competitors. The vehicle for which the drug is delivered to the individual is streamlined at a biochemical level to ensure greater bioavailabity and thus resulting in more of the available medication being absorbed into the blood stream and crossing the blood-brain barrier.

It is science folks. It's fact-based, peer reviewed double blind placebo science, and it is a good thing for the consumer.

With all that said, people on very high doses of buprenorphine (24 mg and above) will likely not notice a difference in the medications while those on lower doses (8mg and below) would probably notice a difference. However, your body should adjust to those differences after about 3 days, but again this is where the mind comes into play. It's better to not rock the boat and express concerns to your physician and your pharmacist. They should be receptive to anything that has this big of an effect on your mind, as I stated before the mind of the addict is where this type of problem truly lies.

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I think I know who this is, & no you can't you have to have a prescription. Give me a call ok...

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How do I get my doctor to hook me up with subutex? I need it bad. I am an IV heroin and opiate user. Please help me!

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It's all in ur head dude if an FDA approve medication says 8mg burprenorphine that's exactly what it is they are tested very thoroughly to be even aloud to hit the market

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The smaller Subutex suck. I hardly feel them and they do not remain in my system as long. I would take the old big Subutex over them any day. I can take 1/4 of a big one and it works better than the small ones any time.

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suboxzone are the strongest ive had evry kind there is on the market and believe me suboxone are the best!!

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