Can Subutex Be A Small White Round Pill With 8 On One Side And An Arrow On The Other (Page 5) (Top voted first)

My friend takes 8mg subutex and when he picked up his script today, they weren't the usual white tablet. They were white and the size of a 2mg subutex with an 8 on one side and an arrow on the other. Could his pharmacist have made a big mistake or are these just a different brand??

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Just picked first Rx of the little ones can't tell a difference between these and the larger ones ...yet

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I've found its mostly psychological... Because you're taking a smaller pill, you're tricking yourself to think you need more. If you legitimately forget about the size of the pill, you're fine. There is the SAME amount of Buprenorphine in the small pills as the larger pills. It doesn't ware of faster, abd you don't need more for same affect. It really is just psychological. Remember, if you're taking these, you're either an addict in recovery, or you're an addict looking to feel high, either way, you're an addict... Therefore, you may still be thinking like an addict, and as a result, you will have that "it's less, so I need more" thought... It is the SAME amount of drug. This medication shouldn't be doubled up, because you FEEL like you need more. This is a STRONG synthetic opiate, the strongest from what I an told by doctors and research! DO NOT be fooled, you CAN overdose on this medication! There is NO blocker like in Suboxone! This medication is meant to keep pregnant woman from withdrawing during pregnancy, to keep their babies alive! If you are truly looking to get clean, and are not pregnant, you should be taking Suboxone! I know personal friends that have died from Suboxone/Subutex abuse! There are HUGE risks involved, so talk to your doctor! If you can't get off the feeling you need more, REQUEST THE REGULAR LARGER SIZES PILLS!!! You don't HAVE to take the small ones! If the pharmacy you're at doesn't have them, call a few days in advance and they WILL order them for you! If for some ridiculous train they won't (which they will), or you didn't call ahead, go to any other pharmacy, because they will likely have the larger ones; only a couple pharmacies regularly carry the small ones (Walgreen's & SOME Rite-Aids). Best of luck guys! Be safe! Check your local needle exchange as well for Naloxone programs! The one in Portland, Maine offers a Naloxone kit and training, incase of an overdose, you can now break out your Naloxone kit, and potentially save the life of an overdosing individual while EMTs arrive! Don't hesitate to call 911 when someone overdoses either! Most states now can NOT charge you for drug possession when EMTs arrive in scene, because too many used to not call, out of fear of arrest. Savings a life is more important than a lame drug charge, so immunity is generally given to save someone's life now, if drugs/ paraphernalia are on scene. Be safe and Happy Easter!

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I'm having the same problems, did great for five years on 16mgs a day, no failed drug panels, no wanting to take more, life was great, then a few months ago they went with the smaller pill with the arrow, now I have the first failed drug panel in five years. Didn't understand what was going on until I put 2 and 2 together. Now I understand, I now they are the same drug, but it's all in my head, somehow my brain is saying I'm not getting enough, it's all screwed up, and I know it's just me, but part of addiction is all in your head away, i'm praying my dr will understand and help me find my old 8mg pill, I so fear the train wreck of my old life coming back, it will be jail or death for sure, and I had five great years, old well, life not fair, can't live forever

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Actually the small subtext with the 8 on one side and the arrow ( which also serves as a line to break tablet in half ) on the other side , are made by Hitech, in the US. I get them in sealed bottles monthly and like the very much for their smaller size they desolve quicker than the larger subs. If my pharmacy only has the larger ones I will go elsewhere to get my script filled with the smaller hitechs. I don't like the volume and the length of time the larger ones require to desolve sublingualy.

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I have been on the 8mg subutex for several years and always had the large teva pills. Then recently got the little 8mg, arrow brand and like them. I was worried at first that they would be weaker or my brain made me think that, but after a couple days was suprised how well and, quick they worked. So I agree the 8mgs with the arrow are quite nice indeed chaps

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To the person that said that all people do is abuse these, you are seriously over generalizing (also known as painting with a Wide brush). I am a 29 year old male who has taken suboxone (Buprenorphine and Naloxone combination) for more than 6 years now and have been in counseling the whole time. I have never abused painkillers since starting this regimen and I know a lot of other people in my group counseling sessions who haven't backslid either. The problem with the United States is that the general population and the medical community both fear what they do not know. I got addicted to painkillers thru a prescribed regimen for a back problem (bulging disc L3/L4 and spinal stenosis). I recognized a year in that I was having problems. No one forced me into recovery or to take Suboxone, but I researched and found that this was the best combination along with counseling for my addiction. I have never been arrested. I have never been late on a bill. I have a college degree and have worked in a professional setting in a social services office and before that as a journalist at a city rag. I have found that the people who bounce between Sub and their old drug of choice are people who have been under medicated and who failed to address their issues through counseling. They are not bad people, but their habit drives them to do bad things. The doctors out there who try to rush patients through their program are doing their patients a major disservice. For many, but not all, this should be a lifelong maintenance tool. Think of it like this: We wouldn't get a diabetic person healthy through medication and then jerk the rug out from under them once their blood sugar is under control. That would lead to relapse and high blood sugar and other complications. Diabetes, like drug addiction, is a lifelong, chronic illness with the potential for relapse in the patient. Many doctors don't understand that the goal of treatment should not just be to taper a person quickly as possible off this lifesaving medication hoping they can achieve total abstinence (which for most is impossible in the long run) , but is instead the elimination of relapse and it's negative consequences, which includes jails, institution and, sadly, death. It's so disheartening to see the folks who are left to fend for themselves after really working to turn their lives around get in trouble or die. It's absolutely wrong and the medical establishment and the public need to better informed about the true goal of addiction treatment. I say kudos to those who get off and stay off for life. More than that I look up to them and think they have done an awesome thing, but for most it just isn't reality to think once they've tapered and withdrawn their lives will be perfect again. I am lucky to be where I am and I thank my higher power (my family) everyday that I walk the earth for this opportunity I've been given to live my life as any other person does. My insurance pays for my visits to my doctor ($25 copay) and my medication only costs $35/copay with insurance for a 60 day supply (brand name strips). I know I am lucky, but this is another reason why finding the right prescriber and the right psychologist is the best thing you can do for yourself if you find yourself living the addict life. I hope this post will help open the eyes of many people out there to what this lifesaving medication is really about: Living a normal and healthy life, where you don't have to constantly fret over where your next pill is coming from just so you can be well and function normally. I will add that there is good, scientific based evidence that this drug works for pain and depression, as well. I still have chronic pain, but the medication helps with that as well. It has totally taken away the depression I felt when I was taking my old drug of choice.

As for the person on here who is attempting to source, shame on you, sir or madam, for attempting to pray on a medicine that saves lives. I hope you get help, the eight way, for whatever issue you are suffering from. You are obviously an addict yourself, more than likely, so I do not want to be too hard on you, but let me say that what you are attempting to do is wrong and extremely fraught with danger. There are so many legitimate means of getting this medicine for cheap if you will just take the time and do the appropriate research. Good luck to you on doing the right thing. I am planning to start an e-petition soon that will inform the public and misinformed medical establishment about the benefits of this drug and the correct way to deal with the patients who must utilize it or face dire consequences in their lives. Everyone please be on the lookout for it and sign it. I am also asking the federal government regulators and state regulators to take a hard look at the limitations they are placing on prescribers when it comes to this medication and also asking insurance companies to include this drug on their formularies with no time limits on treatment so that people can truly live their life as recovered addicts. Thank you for your time if you have read this far. I hope you find yourself better informed because of it.

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The level of extreme inaccuracies in your post are incalculable. You really need to research and understand this medication better. Yes. A nontolerant person could indeed overdose on Suboxone or plain Buprenorphine. Anyone truly addicted and who had a tolerance could not overdose unless they combine it with medications from the benzodiazpene class of medications because of the ceiling effect. Anything beyond 32 mg at once will produce no more sedation, no matter how far over you go. This is due to buprenorphine's ceiling effect. The naloxone in Suboxone really does not become active because it does not absorb well orally nor sublingual. It's basically there to cut back on inj., but even via inj. it will not do much. Liver toxicity and blood illnesses are another story, though. It is not even naloxone which results in precipitated withdrawals when individuals addicted to opiates take bupe before being in withdrawal. It is the bupe itself which knocks the drug off the receptors due it's higher affinity for the receptors. Because it is only a partial agonist, though, it will result in withdrawals as the full agonist drug is replaced. Because bupe has a higher affinity than any other opiate for the opiate receptors, this is where the blocking comes from. Naloxone had nothing to do with blocking the high of other opiates unless administered alone without buprenorphine. Someone who is overdosing on Buprenorphine can be helped with Naloxone, albeit a much greater dose than other full agonist opiates. Overdose risk with bupe is astronomically lower and it is a very safe medication. Do you really think they'd be handing this out to addicts if it weren't? Please stop damaging the name of some great drugs that help people. And by the way, buprenorphine is just as safe for men or women as Suboxone combination drug. Women who take bupe or sub will still give birth to opiate addicted babies. Sub is just easier to manage in the pediatric population. Please study this drug more before posting so much misinformation.

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I know I'm needing to find out something. I found 1 in my sons room.8 with arrow on 1 side

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It is a problem drug. If you take it for longer than just for detox of of pills you will become addicted to this also. The w/d from the subs are so much worse.

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Will it be out of my body if i took a quarter on saturday morning and got a drug panel tomorrow (monday) at 1 pm?

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100 percent correct. Way more pure without all the junk. Just like a 80 mg oxycontin which is the same as 16 big fat 5mg perks

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I have a very small white pill. #8 on one side, no arrow-just a line from one side to the other. Like a cut line

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You are so right , I feel the same .
I feel th, or we will need to take them more often ey doing it perpusley , so we will need m

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Which brand is it that you are taking? I have been on Roxanna 8mg twice a day for almost 3 years and I am going to a new and cheaper pharmacy which only has the orange Actavis 8mg brand and in nervous to switch because I've heard so many people say that they don't work which I have a hard time believing. I want to try the Teva 8mg brand but don't know where to get them. Maybe CVS or Walgreen? I have no idea.

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You are exactly right and I am happy that you shared that. The small generic buprenorphine are not as effective which is exactly what I have been saying. It's good to know its not just in my mind.
Just like you said, after taking it it feels like you need more. It's like you have an urge for something and don't know what it is and are never satisfied. I can't get comfortable or concentrate. I have taken more and still feels the same way even when taking more than prescribed dose.
I say the formulation or active ingredient is definitely less than the larger tablets. I request only the large tablets now which are Roxanne manufacturer. Now in my city the Roxanne is on back order going on two months now.

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Dles number 2ml subuxone contain no blocker an 8ml subuxone contain blockers

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What small generic 8 bup.does Publix have access to.One that works that is.Went to Publix today to drop off prescr.they told me that there has been a recall on 8-2 Suboxone strips.I asked the person what they had for substitute and she showed me a huge white pill.I can not take the big pills,they take to long to dissolve.Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

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can anyone tell me the difference between the Subutex with a 8 and arrow on other side than the 54 411 do they work as well as the 54 411 or is one stronger than the other cam someome explain the difference to me I'm freaking out here it's the first time my pharmacy has given me the small 8 with arrow do they both have same strength or does one work better than the other

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Re: jayjay (# 16)

People will 100% abuse anything..people die from to much water consumption. Kratom was a miracle drug until a bunch of teenagers started bragging all over the internet how high they could get...believe me when I say start saving as many pills as you can because suboxen will be NEXT on the kill list!!!! Subutex is already BANNED.... Save -save-save

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Re: bennett johnson (# 4)

i felt like that when i got the 8 w/ the arrow....small pill..... so i boasted it and felt like i was nodding....won’t do that again

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