Emmy Says:
Availability Of Bellamine-s
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Linda Says:
Are Bellamine-S and similar drugs still available? My pharmacy can't find them, so if you know how and where you can get them, please let me know. Thank you.
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Re: Verwon (# 7) 
I just had Walgreens fill my ergotamine/caffeine pills. They were $75, and they would have been $420 without my insurance. I also use a compounding pharmacy that will take insurance when they can file it.
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MindMolekewl Says:
Re: over 55 (# 19)
I’m a man, but I’m also a psychopharmacologist. It’s important that you and your doctors understand that it’s not necessary to compound these ingredients. Bellamine-S is just Ergotamine, Phenobarbital, and various Belladonna (Deadly Nightshade) alkaloids. I’m fairly certain Belladonna/deadly nightshade supplements are sold at vitamin shops, but you can also get Rx’d scopolamine and atropine at the correct dosages for blood pressure. Ergotamine is also Rx’d for migraines. And phenobarbital is prescribed for severe anxiety, seizures, and alcohol withdrawal.
Phenobarbital is a C-IV scheduled substance similar to Valium (diazepam), but prescribed less often. If your doctor has any issue with Rx’ing a barbiturate like phenobarbital, discuss the possibility of a low dose of benzodiazepine like Valium or Librium. That’s what you need for the sleep. It’s also more likely your doctor, insurance, or pharmacy will question your barbiturate prescription—which is more dangerous than a benzodiazepine.
[warning]: Please discuss this with your doctor! For any of you that take Bellamine or other phenobarbital-containing products, it’s SO important to understand that long term phenobarbital use leads to tolerance, dependence, and addiction. So stopping Bellamine or phenobarbital overnight may have extremely unpleasant or even life-threatening side effects depending on your dosage. So it may behoove you to switch to phenobarbital or an equivalent dose of a long-acting benzodiazepine like Valium (2-5mg)/day.
Finally, because drugs like phenobarbital and all benzodiazepines can lead to serious dependency over time, please try to limit your dose and stop taking it once your menopausal symptoms subside. These drugs should be taken on as ‘as needed’ basis only to avoid chemical dependency. If you suddenly stop Bellamine or your doctor switches you to a drug without phenobarbital and you experience severe anxiety, insomnia, confusion, shakiness, or other withdrawal symptoms related to barbiturates...tell your doctor immediately and ask to taper down your dose slowly using phenobarbital or Valium. Doctors do not know enough about barbiturate or benzodiazepine-related “protracted withdrawal syndrome” and will often deny that you have it. Older women also comprise the highest percentage of patients dependent on sedatives like benzodiazepines or barbiturates because of doctors like that. So be your own advocate and find a doctor who takes you seriously. Good luck.
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nnspatz Says:
Re: Janice (# 2)
What CVS, or really, where was this CVS for bellamine?
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Suzanna Says:
Where did you get your meds at? What pharmacy? What state? Because I been looking for this meds and I can't find it any where.
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Betty Says:
How can I get this drug? I can't find it anymore in the US
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Jon Thailand Says:
I have the product inThailand which has the same formulation as Bellamine-S. For menopausal women, please contact me.
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david Says:
have you had any chance of finding Bellamine-s??
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Lady G Says:
I would like to know where I can locate this medication asap i have sever menapause, hot flashes, mood swings, irritiable etc. I have checked with cvs pharmacy and they do not carry it anymore this is the only drug that helps me
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Andrea Says:
I found several pharmacies that would compound this medication for me. I chose a particular one due to recommendations from my doctor's office. Do an internet search for compounding pharmacies near (your zip code). When I searched for just compounding pharmacies I found several hundred all over the country. The compounding pharmacies are typically private non-chain pharmacies as they employ actual pharmacologists (pharmacists with an MD) who are allowed to make medication. I took this medication for more than 10 years before it was discontinued. My doctor and I spent 2 years trying other medications to no avail. I did some internet searching, and found a pharmacy that would make the medication for me. My insurance will not pay for it, but the price (~$80 every 3 months) is well worth it. This medication works wonders for my migraines with absolutely no side effects! Good luck finding local or semi local pharamacies to fill your scripts. If the pharmacy isn't local, look into having it made and shipped to you. The extra money for shipping would be worth it.
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Shae Says:
I live in Canada and my doctor recently prescribed Bellergal Spacetabs to treat my hot flashes which cause me to sleep very poorly, so I can tell you that they are available here in British Columbia.
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Dr Joey Says:
Just one more comment about compounding — as far as I know, only Florida permits the filling of scripts written by physicians licensed in other states. I'm licensed in New York and Florida, There seems to be a loophole (or a gentlemen's agreement) that permits NJ pharmacists in the NYC metropolitan area to fill our scripts. Phenobarbital per se is a Schedule IV Controlled Substance, so I have a feeling professional courtesy stops when a pharmacy has to place an unusual order for phenobarbital powder for compounding. Experienced compounding pharmacists are invaluable in helping us write these scripts. I remember they had a recipe all ready for topical Cleocin years before Cleocin-T and Cleocin Gel hit the market. My nieces and nephews thought I was SO cool to write for meds their friends' dermatologists told them were not yet available.
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Dr Joey Says:
Regarding compounding: we have to write new scripts and they look almost like cake recipes! I have several patients that I concluded would be helped greatly by Dexamyl (Dexedrine and Amytal), which was pulled from the market by the FDA in 1975. (I've been doing this a long time - almost 35 years). Compounding is expensive, but I cut my fee by the amount they had to pay and found a neighborhood pharmacist who was willing and sufficiently skilled to do the job.
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Dr Joey Says:
I am a psychiatrist who has found this drug to be helpful in selected patients over the years. Phenobarbital and ergotamine are too old to have been approved by the FDA; approval wasn't required when they were introduced. However, many drugs with phenobarbital and (at least the generic for) Cafergot, used to treat migraine, is still on the market. I suspect the drug simply wasn't selling enough! My nephew is a perfect candidate for Bellergal-S. Donnatal doesn't have enough belladone alkoloids to be effective and cintaines no ergotamine at all.
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Forthright One Says:
I've been taking Bellamine-S since it was called Bellergal in 1972. I have post-traumatic autonomic dysfunction, called RSD and various other things. I am also on Clonidine patches, but for major flare-ups Bellamine is the only thing that works.
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Sue Says:
Please try Medicap Pharmacy...When CVS stopped carrying it I had a nurse at my doctor's office recommend trying them and they came thru. And...my insurance covers it.
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Joan Says:
I have not found anything on the canadian or us pharmacies that have Bellamine S. If anyone has found it on the internet or anywhere it's available please let us all know with an address or the info.
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rudie Says:
what is the compound for Bellamine-S. I am so exhausted from lack of sleep and hot flashes. Bellamine-S gave me my life back. What drug store makes it up? Please help!!!
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Kathy Says:
This is the best medicine I've ever uesd. Helps me sleep, but doesn't make me a zombie. Helps my stomach too. I didn't realize it might be a problem getting it, I just now left a message asking my gynocologist if he would prescribe it for me again. I really, really need it. I haven't slept in weeks.
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jan Says:
Good news! I got the Bellamine-S compounded at a local pharmacy and my insurance did pay for it. It was considered a 3rd teir drug, so the cost was $48.00, but I am sleeping much better! Definitely pursue the compounding route until the drug becomes available again!
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jan Says:
If you have your original RX compounded, can they do that from the original refill, or do they need a whole new RX? Just curious how that works. I have never had anything formulated before!
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