Xtampza Er Users Effectiveness (Page 2) (Top voted first)

I need ppl who have tried the new Xtampza er med to tell me if it works the same as oxycontin? I need to switch so I wanted to know the strength of the new med in comparison.

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Re: Db (# 8)

This is why I am trying to file a civil case against my Insurance Co. They are charging me $400 co pay for my OxyContin that I have been on for 10 years and are telling me to switch to Xtamza . This is unfair. I am going to fight this all the way.

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I am being taken off of my Oxymorphone ER 40 mg four times a day for Xtampza ER 36mg. Due to DEA pressure. Every time they have taken away one drug for another in this manner it has never worked as good as the one before it. So I expect insurance issues first, sickening withdrawals that make me want to die second, and to be left on a pill that won't give me enough pain relief to wash my ass on a daily basis. Has anyone else done this drug to drug transfer and how did it go for you please?

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I have read insurance companies and the gov are pushing this med over oxycontin. I don't know if the abuse-deterrent in it is so good or if oxycontin just has the bad name (pill mill beginnings) but this med is being promoted in all ways which maybe tells me I am correct that it simply is weaker than the original oxycontin. I have not been able to find relief with xtampza no matter how I take it, which leaves me bedbound mostly all days. Life is over as a human being, pain is a daily battle that I am not sure how long my mind and body will be able to take it. This to me is simply murder when it is obvious that my pain is destroying me. Is it the dr's fault or the gov taking over our health, since the drs cannot be expected to lose their livelihood by dea attacks which are completely wrong. We are being allowed to die without any concern, the weak and sick are disposable, we do not matter, america has forsaken us which to me is so beyond sad that our great country has come to this. Our voices are not heard, even as we try to scream our plight, we are nothing in this cruel place which is supposed to be the land of the free and brave. It has become the land of the greedy and cruel allowing citizens to be tortured and unheard. We are forgotten without one but of remorse.

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Ok, so today my Dr Gave me my usual OXYCODONE 30mg, 4 times a day, and I was taking MSCONTIN 60mg which I do not like at all! Made me very sleepy.. so he gave me a prescription for Xtampza ER 27mg. I will keep you posted on how it is tonight, but the cool part is that it saved me a lot of money, because the company offered a copay card and my first fill is nothing, zero! After that it will be $25.00. The cool part is I have a $250 deductible through my insurance, and even though it will start over in January, that card from the med company has $1,000 on it, which will pay for that deductible which is really cool! That will last until June 2017, after that it will be my copay of $40.00.. so ask you Dr about it. So here is what I know:
Xtampza ER - 9mg = 10mg Oxycodone HCL
Xstampza ER - 13.5mg = 15mg Oxycodone
Xtampza ER- 18mg = 20mg Oxycodone HCL
Xtampza ER - 27mg = 30mg Oxycodone HCL
Xtampza ER- 36mg = 40mg(which doesn't exist in Oxycodone HCL)
I haven't tried OxyContin, but I'm pretty sure it's about the same as Oxycodone IR HCL

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It's not the doctors or the insurance companies it's the DEA who dictates what we can take and can't take they have these ridiculous regulations that unfortunately affect all of us not just the Addicts I am starting to get involved and we'll call the DEA as a consumer to find out what I can do to protest this is a legal issue it would be helpful if the doctors explain why they don't prescribe the things they do but they have lost their compassion hi

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Agreed writing our reps & senators should help, which actually I have done with no effect or answer to my troubles. Seems this war is beyond the concerns of our reps-it is in more powerful hands that have control over everything & body.
I know the CDC guidelines had asked for responses to their proposed guidelines then after thousands responded unfavorably it was said that too few responses objected to the guidelines and more favored them-which we all know is not true. Propaganda to the public is what I call it, keeping the public in the dark about truth in this war. By spewing lies and scewing numbers they make it seem all pain relief medication is evil and resposible for crime and death.
There must be a way to stop this take over. Idk, hate feeling helpless from pain robbing me of life.

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Denise & Dmoon- idk if you are same person but both are being charged_400 copay after it being$25 for years. I would like to know what insurance company is doing that since I will be going on Oxycontin soon, will not be able to afford the copay if that much. I have never heard of any copay that high for anything.
Oxycontin is the ONLY med that ever has
Worked for me so am gonna avoid you all
Insurance if possible.
This Xtampza ER simply has not the umph
To bring my pain levels down to a functioning
Level no matter how I take it. It feels like watered down version of oxycontin, like about
A quarter of it at best.

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Re: Lynx (# 75)

I so much agree. I've been forced to take Xtampza it is no where near what I need and I am also now once again in bed. Crying. The med works a it for a few hours maybe 4-5 I need breakthrough meds and I'm sure they won't give them to me. Yes The government is taking over our pain care. I wish all of them had to spend a week in our bodies before coming up with these new laws

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Re: A Fan (# 15)

Hi, I too was forced to switch to the Xtampza and I'm scared to death! I have read NOTHING good about this drug. This whole thing makes me sick! Due to all the negative press about opioids in general I personally feel like I'm doing something wrong every time I get my script filled. I have been on Oxycontin for 8 years and every time a new "Tamper Resistant Break through" comes out my pain level goes UP. I feel for you all and only people with legitimate pain can understand this horrible struggle. I hope you all find pain free lives but it doesn't"t look promising.

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Re: Denise (# 86)

Hey Denise I am Mr.Ryan. At first when I was perscribed Xtampza I did not believe the rumors of havinf to eat a fatty food and then take your dose of xtampza. It is so true. Trust me thru trial and error I l learned the hard way. You have to eat with this med or it will not work correctly. Look back on my previouse posts. I think they will be very helpful. I transfered from 75mcg Fentanyl patch every 48 hours to 36mg xtampza twice a day. The xtampza will work if you eat with it. I also have 5mg Percocet twice a day for break thru. I have had several surgeries including lumbar facet fusion a bone graph from my hip etc. And this combo of medication keeps me functioning daily. I lead a full time job 50hrs a week and manage a full family with 2 children. If they took away my xtampza I would be bed bound and completely un able to function and maintain a somewhat regular life. I hope this helps and I truely hope you find what works for your bidy to manage your pain. This is coming from someone who can understand pain.
Thanks,

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Re: RJR (# 89)

A Fan (#15) - I had to switch from Oxycontin to Xtampza. I am taking one every 8 hours instead of every 12 and it is working perfect. Sometimes i take two a day sometimes 3, depends on the pain. Give them a little time and then talk to your doc about adjusting strength. I was pretty disappointed at first but once I got used to them I am satisfied. Good luck, I wouldn't take the fentanyl either.

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Re: BethB (# 105)

Hello again Beth. Something that I found that helps me is. Since its hard for you to eat what I will do sometimes is eat a piece of cheese then take my xtampza pill with a drink of milk. This combo seems to have enough "fat" in it to let the xtampza work well. Maybe see if this would help, I know sometimes I may not have an appetite and dred taking it without eating because I know in the back of my mind it won't last as long as it would if I ate that day when I took my medicine. I am not a fan of having to eat with it but something as small as a piece of cheese or even a bite of yogurt will go a long way with helping the medication work longer. I hope that you are feeling better and adjusting I personally know it can be a battle at first. I fought some pretty tough withdrawals myself when I first switched. Hang in there it will get better. I look forward to hearing from you again. Take care.

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Please post any noted changes please for the rest of us. Thanks.

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Ciaobella,
Have you ever considered switching to a longer transdermal delivery type opioid type medication rather then relying on orally based formulations??your pain management specialist has a host of modern pharmaceutical
agents Available in the treatment of severe intractable pain patients.You deserve to have your pain adequately treated.Best of luck in your journey.

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Lisa, unfortunately there are several factors that are at fault and bear the irresponsible choices of which way the pendulum swings. The insurance industry has created an environment shedding a bad light on them as profit orientation and forcing western medical practice with their lobbyists and writing legislation, the doctor associations follow suite while writing scripts for the newest meds while receiving kickbacks, creating this realitivly new industry of "Pain Management" forcing the GP doctors out whom have the best interests of the patients and their reputations usually and not lobbying hard enough, the pharmaceutical industry is as bad as the insurance industry and then there is the D.E.A., F.D.A., C.D.C. only focused on bureaucracy of their interests and the unemotional laws passed while creating an place where the right hand hasn't a clue what the left hand or foot is doing and so on. This costly concept of the war on drugs has crept into all of the above and influenced the congress on down into society while purposely not identifying specific points of the problems, but lumping together as a category. My point being that this high profile epidemic is not sold as it is. The pharmaceutical industry is causing unintentional deaths (which is the only avenue for litigation), or the opiate O.D.s or any contributing factor, but lump them as one problem only and purposely designed to attack opiates as a whole. My argument is when you take someone legitimate that has a measured and known dose on a consistent basis then forcing them out making them just live with it since it is all in their mind anyways and they choose opiates over suicide for relief, they have no idea what is in it, how much of a dose to be safe and so on and all the while they have created a criminal which throws a whole different light on that individual who only wanted help and relief. So if suicide isn't an option we hand them over to the prison system which is increasing as a high profitability industry. Not a health problem. So back to who's at fault, we all are, pain is relative to each individual experience and it's so difficult to relay that to anyone else's perspective.

I have many spinal problems over nearly 25 years now with a cancerous tumor slipped in along with some other issues too. I've never had any O. D. problems over these years taking opiates off and on with both muscle relaxants and some anxiety meds too along with many, many others over the years. I have watched the changes in dismay and unbelief with some anger slipped in, these new pain relief meds and the poor quality of some of the old standbys (which I prefer mostly of the known effectiveness and side effects) are becoming a bigger problem than the issue they are attempting to solve. My best wishes to all and please keep smiling. Maybe some common sense will seep in before the end of our lifetime.

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Hi Ciao Bella,

I just read your post and had to reply. I too have been taking almost 300mg of oxycontin for the past few years after a couple of failed spinal fusions. I run a business, raise a family, show up for my life and get a little exercise in. I had some degree of quality of life. Now they have me on Xtampa and I am high, tired, b****y, stomach ache, in pain, can't go to the gym, my employees are complaining about me. Intercourse doesn't work with my wife!!!! I feel like I have to find a professional advocate who can fight my insurance company. Since i own my own business, i pay $5-6K a month in insurance for my employees. How can I pay that much, have the support of my doctors and STILL get shut down on the pre approval. Is there a group or an organization where people who are not abusing the medication, are successfully lobbying the insurance company? Sure would love to pool my efforts!!!

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Are you on the 27 myself I recently started these the first month it was awful I started at lowest dose it put me on the couch for a month

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Just checking in again, been on this med months now with so little relief I doubt I would even have withdrawals if I quit it!! Been in bed, lttle time up in my wheelchair-but no one cares my life (as poorly able that it was) is now totally gone. I have tried with food, fatty food, small amount of food and without food. I have taken 2 of the 27mg at a time, then tried 3 at a time still no relief like I used to get with the Oxycontin. It is like there is blank powder in these capsules-I wonder what really is in these things to make them so useless-my dr. says the abuse deterrent is a waxy substance-so am guessin that must make them also relief deterrent too!

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i appreciate what i just read. i am sorry about your pain, I understand. i am young-ish in my 30's. my dr. cut me off of 5 controlled rx. 9 years I went there as a patient. i found another a pain dr but getting proper meds to live a functional life is ridiculous. i had to leave my medical job bc I was unable to function not to mention the pain. this is like modern day genocide.
good luck to you my friend.

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I cut of a little top piece and empty on my tounge. Now you are correct about the instructions. I've tried it with the capsule but it takes a good hour or two longer then if I just swallow the micro beads. It was a little trial and error, but now that it's built up in my system for 7 days it's a NOTICABLE difference.

Oh and after researching the micro beads Xtampza ER studies have shown it works the best with HIGH FAT foods. A few examples...

Avocados. The avocado is different from most other fruits. ...
Cheese. Cheese is incredibly nutritious. ...
Dark Chocolate. ...
Whole Eggs. ...
Fatty Fish. ...
Nuts. ...
Chia Seeds. ...
Extra Virgin Olive Oil.

Hope this help :)

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