Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula (Page 27) (Top voted first)

is Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.

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Thats no fun at all Jay! Yep i can attest to the same... I hadn't even had a filling before getting sick & having to go onto the oxycontin, now I'm battling to keep my teeth...besides the dry mouth, these types of medications can prevent your body from absorbing calcium properly, so its a really good idea to also take vitamin c & calcium tablets.. Vit C aids in calcium absorption. I take a whole laundry list of vitamins to try & keep my body strong as i can as i dont eat as well as i should at times. When my pain levels are high the last thing i want to do is eat, so can go for days without eating... I throw up, so its not through lack of trying... It just doesn't stay down. Mind you, it doesn't help me stay skinny... Unbelievable.... That would be a nice side effect at least... Lol... I used to eat anything i wanted & not put on a kilo......but i did ride 8-10 horses a day track work & then go to full time job so burnt it off i guess. Jay I hope your mouth feels better, it really sucks watching your teeth falling apart when its not your fault... People do make sure you floss, use mouth wash & brush at least twice a day, it really is important as you can see Jay is going through hell. I was brushing my teeth a couple of nights ago & one of my teeth broke... They just crumble like chalk.. Let us know how your going with it all Jay.. Take care.

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Has or does anyone suffer from sleep problems. Like broken sleep, snoring or not breathing properly from using OxyContin ?
Hope everyone is pain free.

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Hi, yes I have 'non-restorative' sleep and have taken 10 or 15 mg of Stilnox (Ambien) for twelve years now, cannot sleep at all without it but I don't mind. I don't know if it's related to the Oxycontin as I have been on it longer than the Stilnox, my sleep problems are 'supposed' to be due to fibromyalgia however I never had sleep issues prior to being on pain medication, that is when my sleep problems started many years ago now.
I used to get seven hours years ago (on Stilnox) but now I get five then end up sleeping in my recliner for an hour in the morning, after I take my pain medication, then I wake up properly and start my day. Sleep is a big issue for me. I have gained a lot of weight since I stopped sleeping properly and I believe it is related. You might find that taking Lyrica helps you to sleep as it calms the brain down, I tried it but I was too drowsy in the morning but my husband swears by it, saying he sleeps better and is more awake in the morning! The opposite of me.
If you can get into a good sleep routine that might help you settle so make sure the room is totally dark and quiet, that you are not too hot or cold. I changed from a quilt to cotton blankets and from cotton sheets to flannelette sheets, much more absorbent as I can sweat at night. I have found it easier to control my body temperature with this change of bedding this also helps me sleep better.
Also, when do you take your medication? That might make a difference to your sleeping also. Are you on the generic or the reformulation and are you on long acting or short acting? The short acting will keep you awake.
Hope this helps, what does everyone else think?
Cheers

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Yep me too, although for me the sleep issues are a direct relation to my pain level mainly. My pain treated properly with generic oxycontin sits at a 6-7 generally...this is pretty good for me as it gets up to a 9-10 pretty quickly when on the reformulation. Im never on the lower end of the scale anymore, only in the early years could i get down to a 4-5 & i just cant remember being in such little pain now. I sleep on & off all night.... couple hours sleep, couple hours awake sort of thing...i do get a couple of decent hours if i take my medication in morning at 4/5am as it settles the pain best at that point. I take temazapam 10mg at night & have been for most of the time ive been sick.... Started when going in & out of hospital for long periods for operations & complications & doc decided to leave me with them to try & get a little sleep. I agree Jay sleep deprivation does cause weight gain, its actually been proven...along with pain that prevents or stops the amount of physical activity you do, & the medication also causes weight gain & fluid build up in some people...& in those lucky ones weight loss can happen! ?? unfortunately im the former & as i was extremely fit & did a ton of exercise before falling ill that muscle & my body not able to burn calories the same has seen me put on 10kg i just cant shift. I get edema in my legs really badly. Its horrible & embarrassing but i cant get rid of it completely no matter how hard i work at it. Lyrica didnt help me, but i know it works for some esp people with back & nerve pain. Another is Gabapenton...Neurontin is brand name....an anti seizure medication given to people with pain sometimes...ive tried pretty much everything with my pain specialist, unfortunately nothing much helps bar the oxycontin which at least gives a little relief. The other way to try & help sleep is to do relaxation techniques such as Yoga, meditation, aromatherapy & theres a lot of natural sleep meds you could try...this is where i focus much of my energy... I love Yoga it really does a lot for your body & mind, if interested theres plenty of basic Yoga videos on youtube that can get you started... Hope that helps, best wishes everyone.

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What I don't understand is why none of my doctors, spinal specialist, PCP, Psychiatrist, none of them, told me about "dry mouth." I have been on some of these meds for years. In fact, I have been taking something for high blood pressure since 1982. I coveted my teeth. I think the local chapter of the AMA should have a fund whereby you can apply to get veneers if you start having issues with your teeth due to dry mouth that is a direct result of medication.

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These are old posts but Oxycontin is in the news because Purdue lost their patent three months ago. Supposedly, the generic is like the old OC. I'm wondering if it really is like the old formula, without all of the jelly type binding materials.
I always worried about what that was doing to my stomach.

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I'm in Fort Worth, Texas and I just filled my 80mg Oxycontin prescription with the Sandoz 80mg generic at my pharmacy on Saturday 08/08/2015. All I can say is, WOW! Having a solid ER oxycodone product again made me get teary eyed! I almost forgot what it was like to have decent long acting pain reduction that doesn't tear up my GI system. Their still extremely expensive and only $75 less than what I paid for the brand name and only come in 80mg as of now. I guess Perdue Pharma lost their strangle hold on their Oxy Poison (OP) formulation in court. Hopefully Sandoz will be able to make all the different mg strengths that Oxycontin comes in for all of you out there looking for a quality ER oxycodone product. I'm sure Purdue Pharma will do everything in their power to keep it from happening and keep an extremely inferior product on the market making people suffer needlessly so they can get richer! God bless the judge whoever he or she is that allowed Sandoz to sell their 80mg Oxycontin. I'm guessing no one will be buying the brand name 80mg OP Oxycontin ever again. If Perdue Pharma doesn't fix their inferior OP formulation they can kiss their Oxycontin cash cow goodbye forever!

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Mark, thats great news.....its so unfair that Purdue where able to get the ban of original Oxycontin through the FDA.....as always its about $$$$ not real peoples health. My pharmacist recently had a letter, from the health department (Australias governing body for medications etc.) asking why I can't take the new OP formula....she explained it made me extremely ill, vomiting, stomach pains & the pain relief was nowhere near as good or consistent as original tablet. I wonder if they are doing a survey to see what issues Australians are having. I hope the rest of the US get the same relief your now having Mark....,good luck all!

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Jay & regulars will be interested in this!!! Ive been in hospitsl having surgery to fix a 20 x15cm hernia...thanx to previous abdo surgery!! But thats not what im talking about, sorry sodetracked.. while there the hospital was giving me my regular meds.... of course i get a dose when i was with it enough to know i need to swallow.... Look at it & see the familiar 80 on one side, about to have a melt down & see other side of tablet has OC!!!! Soooo my friends....either they were old stock, (i did get OP given as well though) or Mundipharma realise the games up & if they want their money back they need to produce the original!!!! Interested to hear if anyone else has seen original OC around?

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Hi Mark from Fort Worth, Texas. So sorry to hear all this, how very upsetting. Here in Australia, the new Oxycontin made by Sandoz, IS made by Sandoz and not by Purdue (was called Mundipharma here in Oz). I have read that you can tell if it is the new one or not by the fact that the reformulation will not crumple and will turn into jelly if exposed to water. They say the new Sandoz oxycontin will crumple and will not turn to jelly if exposed to water. Of course if it's tampered with then the 'time release' action would be lost. I am only suggesting this as a way you can tell for sure, which medication you have being given. Also, just download the ingredients from each medication and you will be able to see the difference in the formulation.

We all know about the awful GI effects, it is caused by the Polyethylene Oxide coating that is is used to make glue! We were all so sick when it changed but are now better on the new Sandoz here in Oz. Our hearts go out to all of you in the USA because 'choice' has been denied you. Being in pain is no joke. I think everyone is lumped together, and your 'war on drugs' in the USA has created an unfair situation for people that use the meds only for pain relief. I can only suggest that you form a group as there is 'power in numbers' and try to get a petition together so you can approach the 'powers that be' in your country to try and bring about change. There is a website called change.org here in Oz where anyone can create a petition and people have successfully changed government decisions by getting thousands of signatures so they had to listen to the people. Is there anything like this in the USA? Maybe have a search and find out what you can do. I wish you all the best and I HOPE things change for you all, and soon. Cheers!

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Hi everyone.....
First thing I want to say is that I'm so sorry for all you Americans stuck in the awful situation you are in with the pain medication problems. I feel so greatful to be in Australia and for the Sandos company.
I recently moved up to Queenand and have had a bit of trouble finding a doctor that didn't want to change my medication around but after 5 months I've managed to find a lovely doc who believes that I should stick to what works..... thank god for that.
I also want to thank you Jay for your ideas on my sleeping problems. I did as you said and removed the Doona from our bed and replaced them with cotton blankets. I'm having a much better sleep now. So thank you Jay.
All the best everyone.

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Mark, you mentioned in post #508 you were able to get Sandoz 80mg Oxycontin at a pharmacy in Fort Worth, Texas. I thought Sandoz were only sold in Australia? So, just to clarify, is this the version that does not make your stomach feel awful? Thanks and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

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Mark, thank you very much for your quick and informative reply. Reading various message boards, I am getting conflicting information regarding what country to obtain the old oxys? Clearly they have not been prescribed in the USA for a few years, but if one was to fly to another country to get the old oxys, could you list a few countries as options please? Thanks in advance.

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When I was given the new OxyContin I became very sick with gluten symptoms but had no clue it was these tablets. I eventually discovered that they are made on the same equipment that has wheat put through it. As a coeliac this is cross contamination and as bad as eating gluten. Other coeliacs beware! I now take the sandoz brand which is gluten free and have had no problems with these.

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Hi Jeanie, I just read your post and I do sympathize with you, however you must get a new doctor. If you cannot do the 100 kl drive, catch a bus or maybe get a friend or relative to drive you. Find a private pain specialist in the closest major city to you and make an appointment. Drive, bus it, fly...truly, if I were in your position I would consider moving to a place you can have the care you need. There is absolutely no reason why anyone with chronic pain cannot be prescribed the Sandoz generic Oxycontin. You doctor is causing you more problems than helping you and it sounds as if he has a monopoly on health care in your home town and can use his position of 'power' to push his own agenda. If there is a group of you all in the same boat, you could form and group and contact the medical authorites for help and assistance. I know this takes energy but a group would also give you an outlet for your frustrations. Maybe consider forming a support group yourself? There really is power in numbers. It is hard alone but groups of motivated people can move mountains! Really give it some thought and come up with a way to find a new, caring doctor or pain specialist (I would advise you seek a pain specialist in a major city) and get the medication you need. This would completely change your life back to how it was before. You only get one life and it is too precious to waste so do everything you can do to take care of your own needs and get this sorted out. Get your life back and take action. Hope this caring message motivates you Jeanie.
Cheers!

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I feel for you Jeanie, its obviously not easy & with the problems caused by drug addicts its made it even harder by the sounds of it. I think you need to look at things in a different way though, i cant remember what you take the pain medication for sorry? If your life has changed so dramatically, & your feeling like you are just waiting to die... can you not move somewhere else? Do some research & find an area with good healthcare facilities & options. As i said i cant remember your medical history but there are other pain relief options to Oxycontin, you may find changing to another type of pain reliever helps you get control of your pain again. There are always options, esp if you dont have a terminal disease...you may just need to change a few things in your life to achieve good results. It also sounds like you could benefit from talking to a psychologist that understands chronic pain. There are many beneficial treatments they can also help with..it may sound stupid but meditation & relaxation techniques really help when combined with the right medication & also other treatments like acupuncture & physical therapy (with a therapist who understands your injury/disease). Again if they dont have these in your area, move somewhere that does or get a friend/relative to drive you. Sitting waiting to die is not an option, you have to help yourself.....im sorry if i sound mean, im not trying to be....i just want you to get the help you need.

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Well said Michelle.... Come on Jeanie, life is worth fighting for...fight for the change you deserve. I have a problem. I thought I found a great doctor that understands my pain and therefore understands why I take 3x80 mg OXYCONTIN, 2 x 75mg lyrica and panadol oestro on a daily basis. Well not so, he said to me on my last visit that because I am taking three different medications to combat my back pain that the governing bodies will not stand for that for to long therefore I will have to go on the methadone. Omg no no no. A doctor 10 years ago took me off methadone onto the OXYCONTIN because methadone wasn't helping. I was put on the methadone originally for pain and found myself among drug addicts trying to buy my take home doses, asking me if I use it intravenously etc etc. It was horrible, not to mention I couldn't stay awake....I'm worried I might have to find another doctor but concerned that changing doctor will look like I'm doctor shopping. Why can't I find a doctor that will just be happy to treat me normally and once a month write my scripts for the combination of drugs that work for me, that keep me functioning as a normal, pain controlled, member of the community?

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Hey Sandy, i agree with Jay....Lyrica can help with the pain, but leave you feeling very sleepy...if you need it maybe just take it at night, also have you read the side effects that can happen (wanting to kill yourself, is the one that got me....although it must be a rare effect) ive had all of those pregabilan, gabipentan etc. over the years....just stopped taking the Lyrica that i went back on after surgery recently. If you dont have a pain specialist, you need to get one....they are the doctors who truly understand not only pain but the medications & treatments available If you have a pain specialists authority, your GP really cant argue against it & when you do the permit yearly its better to have the input from a pain specialist. Also if you cant resolve issues with your doctor, the pain specialist can help explain this to not only a new GP but also governing bodies. So long as everything you do is above board & with plenty of paperwork to back you up, showing your transfer of care from one doctor to another it should be fine. I believe people doctor shopping are those going from one doctor to another at the same time asking for these medications? Ive been extremely fortunate to have the same GP who has known me all my life & the same pain specialist throughout my illness, & they both are caring & very respected in their fields. Jeanie i hope you have taken on board our thoughts & are able to find some strength to get the help needed to make you more comfortable & maybe help your injury/disease. Cheers everyone!

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Hi Kamir, it sounds to me as if your having spinal problems, the issues you mention, pins and needles and change in colour are both nerve and circulation problems. The pins and needles happen when a nerve is either irritated or trapped sending pain down the legs, especially the sciatic nerve. Have you injured your back? Had a fall or noticed back pain? Change in colour is very worrying, it means your legs are not getting adequate blood supply. Of course some of these issues can also happen in 'withdrawal' the feeling of crawling, or creeping feelings like 'restless leg syndrome' is common. Have you decreased your medication?
Also, having such a terrible trauma in your life will accentuate everything you feel, if you are angry (being actually very 'sad' in a man, being expressed as anger as it is more socially appropriate...) everything will feel worse. Can you see someone who can help you? I think a change of doctor is a good idea. I could tell you some good pain specialists in Queensland but not in Sydney, maybe someone else might know? I do wish you all the best. Try to distract yourself if you can and not spend to much time dwelling on the past, after all, we cannot change it, however, we can change our future. Take care of yourself. Cheers!

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For me methadone was THE best medication for chronic pain. Especially for nerve related pain. For me I have peripheral neuropathy. Or PN. So painful. Started in my feet then slowly spread to hands. Then feel and legs then hands and arms. With shooting almost electrical type pain. I had to quit taking it tho. They added something it to that gave me heart burn too. Funny. Used to be the second I put the methadone tablets in my mouth, they dissolved INSTANTLY. I has to have a glass of water right there ready. Or I could taste it. Then I started getting bad heart burn and the pain wasn't being addressed. Plus my heart started racing. Took me a few months to put it together. But one day I was taking it and thought huh, that's weird it doesn't dissolve instantly like I uses too. Some days it would some not. I remembered that when I got my last refill I dumped it in with the previous months bottle. Still had some left over. So then I got to looking at them. The ones that didn't dissolve were taller, thicker and whiter and tasted kind of bitter. So I separated all those from the ones that dissolved and looked and tasted like they should have. Turns out even tho the new refill was made by same company, they were the ones that were making me sick. Heart burn, a weird heart burn too, racing heart and not treating pain hardly at all. At some point they changed the methadone formula. It almost sound like they put the same stuff in the old methadone formula that they put in the new OxyContin formula, so it would not dissolve. I don't know. Just a guess. But ever since then I can't take it anymore. But PLEASE you might try methadone, it is long acting naturally. Not cuz they make it that way. Also people don't realize that methadone was created in World War One for pain control. The army medics ran out of morphing and created methadone!! It was not created to treat opiate addicts. I didn't know that either. But they were looking for something that was inexpensive to produce and had long term pain coverage. It was till the late 1960s when viet nam vets started coming home after being addicted to opiates that they took recreationally while fighting over there. 2 drs in New York got the great idea to try treating these vetrans with methadone to help get off the other opiates. It was experimental. But it worked to a degree. Methadone gets a bad name. I thought the same till I my dr had me try it. I was kind of afraid of it. He have me methadone and them 5 mg oxycodone for break they pain. Turns out I didn't even need the break through medicine because the methadone worked so well. It gave me back my life. Until they changed the formula. Most people don't seem to be affected by it like I am. But if your hurting is give it a try. Do some research on it. Anymore if you take ANY pain med your thought to be a junkie. Very very sad. Like people with chronic pain don't struggle enough. Take care.

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