Will Oxycontin Be Changed Back To Original Formula (Page 17)

is Oxycontin going back to their old formula? OC instead of OP.

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Thank you Michelle I will take your advice. I read in some of the posts you had put up & my heart truly goes out to you girl - being able to remain strong & positive is a true virtue & I wish you nothing but the best. My circumstance is a lot different as 6 years I was assaulted & held hostage in a car by an addict at the time I was 27 & studying diploma course for it. One morning at about 7.30 some guy came up on me from behind & used blunt force to my head, he had shattered my skull & as a result I had a blood clot to the brain unfortunately it didn't end there. I was unconscious for the entire day as he had managed to carry me to his car that was nearby (luckily this was all caught on surveillance). I remember waking up only 3 times in total, having no idea where I was or who the guy was that was sitting besides me in the car but I didn't have the time to think or process anything as within a few short seconds I'd drift back into unconsciousness again. The third time when I did manage to wake up I realised it was night as it was dark. When I came to this d***head had actually taken me home as he had gotten the address from cards that were in my purse & he had told my mother that he had found me like this in a paddock & my mum she knew right away that it was absolute bull he even tried coming into the house. I just don't understand what goes on in the mind of an addict. My mum tried calling the ambulance 3 times & because she can't speak English that very well as her background is Hungarian they didn't want to take her seriously so on the final call she told the operator that if I died then she would hold them responsible (mum had relayed this all to me afterwards as I had knocked out again this time on the living room floor & I had no clue what was happening or that something was even wrong) I had blood coming out of my nose as well as mouth. Finally about 5 mins later police & the ambulance arrived. Once in the hospital they rushed me in to have emergency surgery to have the clots removed & instead of just drilling holes they had to take out a section if skull. Now it still didn't end there the guy had my phone, school bag books & purse & had not wanted to give it back. When I came to just before the surgery guess who I see at the foot of my bed - yep, it's that guy I screamed & told security that it was the guy who attacked me. Thankfully they grabbed him & put him in a locked room to wait until the police arrived. This room where they put him one of the nurses a few days later after surgery told me was where the lockers are for patients personal belonging & that he had managed to open 5 in total lockers taking money out from purses as well as valuables & once again it was all caught on camera. The police ended up taking him away & his car remained downstairs in the street somewhere & when the police found it a few days later they found all my belongings as well as my blood in the car. They had to do a rape test kit but once again thanks to God nothing in that manner had occurred ( a silver lining). It took almost 2 & a half years before it went to court & being on the witness stand they make the victim feel like the criminal. It turns out that the guy had done this to a few other women & was already on a suspended sentence because I said to the juriours in the court that he had done this before to other woman & had been to jail cuz of it his lawyers had to get a whole new jury in. The courts are absolute f***ing bulls***! The perpetrator of the crime gets portrayed as an angel while the victim of the crime gets persecuted. He did get 7 Years but it isn't long enough. His own mother used to drive him around in the middle of the night & she would buy him what he was looking for! What is so wrong with this world? I just don't understand! He comes out next year - a free person while I had to stop my studying & my entire life. All I have is the scars, the immense & intense head pain & the panic attacks. I'm sorry for rambling on but it's the first time since court that I've gone through it all over in my head again. The new tablets I noticed something about them, something was making me I'll & when I had informed my local chemist of this they said that I was most likely imagining it (just not on those words) I thank you for getting back to me & I will be making some more call tomorrow. Thank you Michelle you are definitely one strong woman!

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Hey Christine you've really had a bad time of it, im so sorry you went through all of that. I also have some insight first hand of what you went through, not exactly the same but similiar. I was abducted when i was 14 by an absolute nut case- also an addict (find it hard to be sympathetic to them) & he kept me terrified & compliant for over 2 years. My parents looked for me & had police involved, so he made me tell them i had run away & didnt want to go home etc. this guy threatened to kill my family & i believed every word, i saw what he could do to people & he beat me senseless & raped me a lot. One day he invited my parents to see me, we sat in one room & he was in the next room holding a gun pointed at my mum the whole time. I had to be convincing or he would have killed them. I ended up pregnant & had a beautiful little girl, she was 2 months prem & i was really sick- i weighed about 45kg but my daughter although tiny was healthy. She was my champion, she gave me the courage & to get away. One night after a particularly bad beating (broken nose, torn kidney, broken ribs etc.) he was passed out drunk, i grabbed my baby & i ran out the door, & never looked back. My family were like a wall between him & me, he wasn't going to get through & when he came kicking in doors etc, they stood their ground & with the police helping me, i was able to have him sent to jail for a long time. He was let out after 15 years on parole, but 2 days after his release he did an armed robbery & was sent back, he will be a very old man if hes ever released.. my gp has had a thought that all of the abuse might have contributed to the disease i have, but its only a therory. I know what you mean about the court experience, they do make you feel like your in the wrong, when the defendant is painted as being a good person & that i chose to run away etc blah blah. Its wrong!!! You are very strong also chick, i really hope life gets better for you & the doctors can do more to help you. You are the winner with whst happened to you, your the tough one who lived, even though you could have died or had really devastating brain injury, you beat him! That takes guts & strength, that those types of men ( i use that term loosely, these are no real men) are bullies, useless scumbags & they are week as piss-excuse language, we & other women like us are survivors & we fight to live, because we love life, we love our family & friends. I wish you the very best Christine, & hang in there. If you still cant find a pharmacist to stock them, maybe go to your GP or Pain Specialist & ask them to help you find a chemist to dispense the generic. With a doctors backing you up & explaining why you need them, it should fix the problem. Good luck with it Christine, stay strong & enjoy the beautiful things in your life.

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Well I have to say onto week two of the generics. I finally get 12 hours back out of my dose. I actually have been able to reduce the amount I was taking due to the efficiency of the new Sandoz oxycodone. My previous pharmacy that I was dealing with had a week of my old medication left, so I went in there. (A pharmacy that pretends they don't exist and if you want them you are IV'ing them). The Pharmacy tried to make out I had no more there and I was delusional. After my doctor phoned them I finally got my remaining amount. Than the pharmacist tried to make fun of how much I would be paying due to them not being on the PBS.

Thank you Sandoz
Thank you Federal health minister
Thank you Therapeutic goods registry

I have always said, I wouldn't wish my ailments for requiring Oxycodone on anyone. However there are certain closed minded people that I wouldn't mind having their mind opened a little.

How are others finding the new product?

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HI if you guys need any Questions answered or any info into what chemist will have the New SANDOZ GENERIC OXYCODONE then i can help ??? Im a Pharmacist here in NSW i work at a small family owned Pharmacy in Newcastle (for legal reasons i can't name my workplace or name names or i will loose my job and liscence) My father has refused to stock the new generic oxycodone by sandoz or any other generics that do not have new tamper resistant formulas and so have many other pharmacys. its up to the leading pharmacist wheather or not they will stock them ...WELL THATS THE DOWNSIDE ... THE UPSIDE IS for a fact i know that every CHEMIST WAREHOUSE will/ have already stocked the generic brand and if you do not have one close to you, then go on the internet with your script or get somebody to help if your not good with computers and you can order your oxycontin online it will only take 2 days to get to you , there will also be about 4 other generics out in stock by the end of the year also will be an oxycodone patch out very soon if anyone says other they are lying or do not know what they are talking about they will be out for a long time so do not worry they are hear to stay , ALSO the GENERIC sandoz is made based on the original formula of the OC oxycontin and in my personal opinion they are just as good if not better if you need help with YOUR current OP oxycontin i can give you a method that us pharmacists know that can take the bad stuff out and leave you pure oxycodone powder which you put in empty capsule ect....... 80mg over 12 hours would be 1x 20mg capsule every 3 hours this would be the same as taking 1 x80mg CR for 12 hours pain relief only difference is you take less more i swear on my 6 years of university and 3 in a lab. i also have a friend hes a GP he has a local practice and specializes in Pain Management and doesn't judge people on there past history or if they are a drug user he will not look at you funny when you ask for morphine or an increase in dose hes a great dr so if anyone needs to be reffd? or any advice or help getting a new dr that understands pain just get back to me

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thanx Luka, thats really gr will help those without a eat information, hopefully it will help the people that are unable to find a pharmacy thats understanding. I dont think anyone needs to tamper with the op, if your a genuine patient its not a road you want to go down. i see my doctor tom for new scripts & am looking forward to having decent pain relief again, & with luck the stomach issues & headaches ive had since starting the op formula with subside. Feeling very lucky to live in a country where patient needs are more important than money & drug addicts. Australia -the best country in the world. See ya peoples, no longer need to use this forum, unless someone needs information i can help them with, take care guys.

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Yes, the generics cost a bit more $39.95 for the 40's and $49.95 for the 80's. You can't ask for oxycontin, u have have to say Sandoz oxycodone. You will be given dirty looks by I can't even tell how many pharmacies, even the ones that u use on a regular basis. If u ask for generics then u r a junkie! But I have to say that they work great, no more asking yourself, 'is it working' or feeling sick because the OP is kicking around in your belly till u throw up, or having to just take more because the pain makes u limp and that just bring back the horrible memories of the accident that put in the state u are in.

Michelle, I shed a tear for u. The horrors you describe, I thought only happened in horror movies, a person could never be so mean or unbelievably cruel. But u r living proof of it. You are strong and brave!!! I wish I was as strong as u, but I am not.

When I close my eyes I relive the horrors of my accident, I was in a snowboarding accident in the US, I snapped both legs on impact and then landed in a yard sale, a km away from the initial point of impact. My feet were wound 360 degrees to my body and I grated bone on bone as I tried to unwind myself. At the hospital the legs of my bed didn't open up so I fell on the ground. That hurt! My surgeon introduced himself to me by throwing my x-rays at me and slicing my bottom lip, while I was trying to stop the bleeding, he says to me "well, u really f***ed yourself up! U r missing an inche of bone in each leg, u will never walk again". Then my fiancée starting cheating on me because he needed intercourse and I just couldn't do it. How do u have intercourse with someone with two shattered legs? I mean I am a sexaholic but even then, I had absolutely no libido. All I did was cry from the pain, I cried from am to pm and even cried in my sleep (so I have been told). Plus, even though I watched what I ate, I went from 57 to 87. So I became unattractive (so I was told), I just thought for once there was more of me to love, but he didn't think that! I spent 9 months in a hospital bed and even now if I see a wheelchair, my first response is to be sick.

I did lose the weight when I got back home to my parents, I would crawl to the swimming pool in the back yard and try my best to swim, then crawl back to the house, sometimes passing out on the lawn, on my back to the house because I left nothing in the tank for the crawl back to the house. I used to be able to go dancing all night long and chased the snow for two yrs. Now, I don't go out, and the only time I went dancing (if u call what I doing as dancing), I only managed 30 seconds and I was in a world of hurt afterwards.

Chemist Warehouse will order the pills for u but they will call your doctor to ask, he may be a bastard and say no to the generics and then tick the box that says no generics so be careful. I am in sydney and have a wonderful doctor now, that I paw every time I see him. I need to get a boyfriend, I think!

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Kashmir that's absolutely terrifying, what a horror of an accident no wonder your in terrible pain & i can relate to nightmares & crying in your sleep. My daughter wont sleep in the same room as me, when im having nightmares they are so bad. The odd time we've gone away & have the same room or something, she hates it. You must be an exceptionally strong person, to get through all that & my heart goes out to you. I used to train horses before i got to sick, & pain became to bad, i miss it more than anything else i lost through this, certainly way more than my ex husband-that was a blessing getting rid of him. I know how you feel putting on weight, i have the same problem, going from being a really active person, riding 3-4 horses trackwork in the morn, lugging hay & feed etc. keeps you fit, when all that stops suddenly your body just stops. I eat very little, one meal a day & only a small meal, its a struggle to keep weight off & the medication can cause weight gain too. As for intercourse, Im not able to have intercourse without crying because its so painfull. Everyone here who is dealing with pain bad enough to need these stupid meds, are survivors, are strong & are to be looked up too. The pain we all go through sux, & its impossible for our family & friends to understand, they really try to but they cant. Ive lost friends because of my illness, ive been accused of being lazy among other things, but im past caring what others think. Each day i wake up is an accomplishment, as is each day i het through & i know you get what i mean. Anyway, i picked up my generic oxycontin on saturday & my pain level is down to about a 7 for the first time in months, ive been a 9 & over the past 6 mths so its awesome. Im lucky i have doctors & pharmacist who would never give me a look or accuse me of seeking drugs to abuse, they see what i go through every day & are happy to be able to help. Good luck guys, i hope you find a chemist to help you.

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Just to let u all know, not all chemist warehouse's stock the generic oxycodone even if u ask and NO, they do not and will not order for u! Luka u r a big fat fibber! Your best bet is to order it online but then, u have to wait for a couple of days.

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Liar? oh ok LOL if anyone wants help getting the GENERIC SANDOZ OXYCODONE i will help you get it, I am a Pharmacist here in newcastle NSW by law they have to dispence what you request unless on your script your DR has tick Brands not for subsitute box otherwise you can get it unless that chemist has refused to stock it the only reason they would say otherwise is maybe they think or know that you want it for other reasons then we can actully even go as far as refuse to dispence all together and tear up your script and you would have to go through so many hoops to get back on it even after waiting days in day even weeks without anything other than over the counter paracetamol/codeine then your DR would be very hesitant to ever prescribe you opiates again look i can phone your local pharmacy for you and request that they order it in for you you would have alot more chance of geting it if one pharmacist rings another one or i could contact a freind in the business and get that chemist to order it in for you and post it to your local post office you have to pick it up in person because of what it is the only thing is you need to get that script to them and they need to hold it for you i really can help ive help 30+ people already from QLD to WA reasons being is i see people all day with debilitating pain and there dr will give them nothing but tramadol or other week pain pills if there even lucky maybe endone 5mg twice a day (OMG a pill that has a half life of 3 hours at best twice a day what about the other 19 hours your in pain it dosnt make sence to me and then i see people underweight with track marks up and down there arms who are abuseing there pills insufflating them up there nose or IV'ing into there arms and they are prescribed 2x80mg oxycontin 3 times a day with fentanyl patches and dilaudid every day!!! reeking of Marijuana why do the bad guys always get the help that the GOOD PEOPLE NEED AND DESERVE we catch some of them 5 minutes after getting there meds there behind the shop big bin or in there car IV'ing it. I WILL DO WHAT EVER I CAN TO HELP PEOPLE WITH LEGIT PAIN

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I have a back injury I get 80mg oxycontin for and I have been on nexium for years aswell with bad stomach problems. At times I find it hard to swallow the reformulated oxy's. If my script is for oxycontin 80mg and 40 mg am I able to get the sandoz brand even tho my script says oxycontin and not sandoz oxycodone?

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I have a back injury I get 80mg oxycontin for and I have been on nexium for years aswell with bad stomach problems. At times I find it hard to swallow the reformulated oxy's. If my script is for oxycontin 80mg and 40 mg am I able to get the sandoz brand even tho my script says oxycontin and not sandoz oxycodone? Any help on this would be appreciated

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Pnpn you can get the Sandoz formula, as long as your doctor hasnt marked the box that say no brand substitutes. Luka I appreciate you outting yourself out to help others, Im sure the legitimate people having problems will take you up on your offer. I don't know why its so hard to get them though, if you ask your doctors to speak with the pharmacy, there should be no reason they wont order them for you. My pharmacy dispense the new formula to people, but order the Sandoz formula for me as they know ive been having problems with the new formula. Im three weeks into script & my pain levels have been consistently at around a 7 which is good for me, it helps me do the things important to me.

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i find it very hard to believe you are a pharmacist, its DISPENSE not dispence, not an easy error to make when this is in your job description. plus multiple spelling mistakes of simple words ie week instead of weak. plus I find it unbelievable that as a pharmacist you are suggesting delivery to a post office of a schedule 8 medication as if they were lollies. there is a huge problem concerning oxycontin and I applaud the drug companies for making it more inaccessible for the wrong patients. I find it unusual that so many patients are having problems with the new formula , it cannot be marketed or passed by TGA for approved use if it does not provide the benefits as formulated . its pharmacists like you, if you even are one, that make it so difficult for the rest of genuine pharmacists trying to deal with pressure from inappropriate requests for the abused form of oxycontin. I appreciate there may be a small number of patients who may not be able to tolerate the new formula, however im sure there is an appropriate substitution. and to suggest that you can show someone a way to extract the powder from the tablet, seriously , its fortunate for you that you do not list your actual name or I would be reporting you and your ridiculous doctor friend to the appropriate boards.

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Is the generic sandoz formula of OxyConin the same as the original OxyContin controlled release tablets before Purdue/mundipharma changed the formula to tamper resistant ones! I was on OxyContin for yrs then all of a sudden I went to get my script filled in my nsw pharmacy and when I got my mess I noticed the box and packaging were different and didn't think nothing of it until I starting taking the new ones I got terrible side effects off the OxyContin reformulation it felt like I ha hadn't taken my pain relief and they were barely doing anything for my pain and they dr kept increasing the dose I didn't want that so they swapped me to 100mg ms contin morphine 2x aday with oxynorm 20mg at 2 to 3 per day I get 56 MS Contin 100mg and 80 oxynorm 20 mg capsules instant release per month my dr said when the generics in original formulation come out I can swap back to the OxyContin for my parental around the clock pain med is it on PBS I'm on a pension

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Thankyou Michelle for such sweet words. You've been through so much also - what is this world coming to??? I apologise for not writing back sooner I only came out of hospital 2 days ago with a heart infection I'm lucky that I didn't need any operation. The right side of my heart valve is leaky & therefor I get now a hell of a lot of water retention all throughout my body. I see my doctor tomorrow I will ask him if he can help as the old formulation actually makes the retention worser. Hospital put me on frusemide which makes you feel like you have to constantly pee all the time!!!

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You won't believe what I had to go through to get my medication!!! I went to the chemist warehouse & asked for the sandoz brand & the pharmacist replied that they don't have it. So she filled out my scripts & then I asked when the other would be available she then tells me that they have to order it in & that it won't arrive until tomorrow afternoon. I got a little annoyed as I had asked her straight when I gave her the scripts so I gave her back the "bad" ones back & told her I'd be back tomorrow for the proper ones!!! Unbelievable. I agree that they should stop junkies from getting it but not the ones who are legit! Thankyou Michelle for your help & wise advice. Thankyou

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luka, sounds like a scammer. Like he's offering to call in your prescription somewhere, so that he can then pick it up. Something sounds a little off there dude. I mean IF u really were a pharmacist, u would NOT get on the internet offering to break or bend the law. Luka, if you ARE a pharmacist, what are you THINKING!!?!?

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I've had my first day back on the right medication & finally the pain is back to where it used to be. I can't believe that it's actually the same thing! The pharmacist was really nice & helpful & said that when I need my next script filled to just phone ahead the day before & he would order it & have it ready for me the next day to pick up.

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All you have to do is make sure your prescribing doctor does not tick the box on the script that says something like 'original brand only' leave the box empty and you will be able to get the generic brand. Order them in first with your chemist so they are waiting for you. To swallow the horrible Oxy, chew up some food and swallow with that, not with liquid. They turn into gel with liquid and some people have got them stuck in their throats so just with food, then have a drink when it's gone down properly. Good luck with the new one, I just ordered it. I can't wait. Thank God, what a nightmare this has been for us all, I get itching, headaches and stomach pain. So unfair for people with chronic pain. Cheers!

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I agree with Jane, Luka I dont know what your doing but you dont sound like a pharmacist-well not a legal one anyway. The reason myself & other legitiment patients is because of addicts abusing this drug, & theres you telling people how to. Leave this group & go back to your druggie mates, you writing this junk is like your kicking sand in my face, ive been suffering for months because of Purdues greed & junkies giving them an excuse to change the formula. As for offering to call in & pick up scripts for people- DONT ANYONE LET HIM DO THIS, I BELIEVE HE IS SCAMMING & IS AN ADDICT. Luka is trying to scare you with all that talk about chemists ripping your script up, they cant do that. If a chemist has a problem with gilling uour script they will call your doctor, not rip it up in fromt of you, ive spoken to my parmacist & doctor about that after seeing your comment. Im really glad i was able to help you Christine i hope your doing ok. I had to take part of my script in the new formular on Mon as my new ones weren't delivered in time, & taking them again i now know for certain they make me very sick with stomach pain, headaches, bloating & unsatisfactory pain relief. My order arrived today so my chemist exchanged the rest, thankfully. For those who dont know, Jay says about taking new formula with food, but your actually meant to take one tablet at a time with a full glass of water they need to turn to glug, thats how they realease the pain killer. Deviousdev yes the Oxycodone Sandoz is the original formula. I really dont get why its been so hard for people to get it, if your doctor is happy for you to have the Sandoz your pharmacy should be ok to order it for you. If not get your doctor to speak with your chemist & use that chemist all the time. Lol Christine they call Frusimide, piss pills, when i was training horses the jockeys were all taking them to keep their weight down, pretty stupid to do but people do stupid stuff. Wishing you all the best.

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