White Buprenorphine Round 460 (Page 2) (Top voted first)

So I went to the pharmacy yesterday to get my script and they told me they were out but they would have more tomorrow. When I picked my script up it wasn't what I normally get. They told me it was a generic but I have never seen them before and I have been in treatment for years now. I have tried looking them up but can't find any reviews or anything really on them. Has anyone ever gotten these? And do they work as good as the 54 411? Also it is kind of minty which reminded me of suboxone and I'm not prescribed suboxone.

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I have been taking subutex for years and a few weeks ago i was switched to the white 460 pills. Since then i have failed twice for methamphetamines or d-methamphetamines and I have no idea why. I have been telling the nurse that this pill taste like it has chemicals in it and it's giving me headaches. Has anyone else had this problem I am just trying to do some research to see why a lab test is coming back positive for that.

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In response to Heather, and you guys, I know rumors and silly stories are always being made up about this kind of stuff, just look at the conflicting posts on this page alone lol, but I just heard something yesterday extremely similar to what Heather posted. An older woman that I know really well, told me when she went to her doctor's appt she was told that as per DEA's orders, all buprenorphine patients will be tapered down from their current dose; and switched to buprenorphine/naloxone unless the patient IS CURRENTLY PREGNANT. She gave most of the same details that Heather wrote in her post. The reason I believe this to be true, is because a clinic & pharmacy in my area just got shut down about 2 weeks ago by the DEA for physicians refusing to release patient's private information to them. I think they are reaching out to clinics demanding to see how many patients are on Subutex, & probably looking at drug panel results... Also with the way everyone has been having a hard time finding them. And all of a sudden we are being basically forced to take Sun Pharma's 460 imprinted tablets, that everyone absolutely hates due to experiencing nausea, headaches, upset stomach, depression, severe fatigue, & lack of efficacy etc etc etc... I was able to find my Roxane-WestWard brand this week, but who knows how long that will last. And no one mentioned anything to me at my appointment, but I am going to call and ask if they know anything about this. Those of you who do abuse this medication, don't ruin it for the rest of us!!!! I know most of us take it responsibly, and I for one pass every drug panel I'm given. I'm searched beforehand to ensure patients are using their own urine. I complete my counselling sessions every month. This isn't unfair to make abrupt changes in people's RECOVERY, something that is very fragile. Ever heard the saying IF IT'S NOT BROKE DON'T FIX IT?! Yes, I'm sure some would say I'm overreacting, and yes I will get used to it. I just don't like being forced into something, and suddenly at that. Not to mention, I am breastfeeding so I don't really get how they are not allowing those who have allergies to naloxone, breastfeeding mothers, or those with liver conditions to continue to take their current medication. If anyone else has any comments or knows anything about this, I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.

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Unless you have a allergy to nalaxone. I have a documented allergy. Doc says I'm good and won't be switched. But this came about a year ago, I had to have some test to prove the allergy and my reaction when taking subox was documented

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[response to Bobby] yeah i called my doctor's office to confirm that infomation, bc someone else told me the same thing as i stated previously. They told me that definitely was not at all true in any capacity. So idk about anyone else's doctor's offices or what states you all live in, but i know it is not true for Pennsylvania at least not for where i go. That made me really nervous, and stress is not your friend when you are in such a fragile state, aka recovery.

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I just got these new 460 subs. They work just as good as actavis or mylan. I notice absolutely no difference. I cannot take naloxone, it gives me terrible headaches plus the bottle says buprenorphine only so there is no naloxone in these.

There has to be another variant besides these- the sun pharma bupe works fine for my chronic pain/past addiction issues.

P.s. These are NOT the tiny 8mg ones, they are about the same size as the mylans

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There not kicking people off subutex... Maybe your doctor or area is but it's not a happening to everyone who is on subutex because they are allergic to naloxone. CVS did order me the west ward brand but I'll have to go in every month ahead of time and have her order it for me for now anyway. The sun brand is awful I'm sorry if your the 1% of people who say they like it but I've been on these meds for 12 years and sun was prob the worst brand close to hi tech. Teva used to make a really good Subutex generic that was close to as good as the name brand but it was low priority and was put on long term back order. I had terrible side effects when I was on Suboxone and I would rather go to a methadone clinic than feel sick every day on Suboxone.

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I just tried these recently. I normally get the Roxanne 54-411 ones which I prefer above any others.. I just got the 460s temporarily and I do NOT like them At all!!!! Idk what it is but I don't like em... even gave them a fair shot and tried them over a few days and NOPPE

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Also just wanna say these stories ab them not making the 54-411 isn't true lol I get them every month no issue... asked my clinic and they said they've never heard such things. They ONLY give out the Roxanne brand at my clinic sooo

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I've been on Subtuex for over 2 years and have had every brand there is. Until I got the Sun 460's, the only brand that did not work well for me was the Hi-Tech tiny 8mg pills. These 460's seem to have a VERY short life span and I stay tired on them. I am prescribed only 8mg a day now, which I take 2mg at wake up, 2mg after breakfast, 2mg after lunch and 2mg after dinner. (I began splitting up my doses when I first got on Subutex because it seemed to work great in the morning but wear off in the afternoon)
Normally, I just take my meds on schedule, but with the 460's my body is actually craving another dose well before the last dose should have worn off.

Also on a side note, it seems no matter what brand I take, if I take a nap after dosing, I wake up feeling as if I've not had my dose that day. (Which is why I no longer nap lol)

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They ate terrible give me terrible headachs they should discontinue the 460s

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Re: SubSurfer (# 13)

Me too. Much better. They aren't burning anyone. There's a slightly hot sensation but it's not burning. I don't have to keep it under my tongue for 30 minutes and I feel great all day.

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The new Sun pharm is no good. if you get them just give them back and wait for something else to come in. I don’t know why they get rid of the good brands that actually work to trade it for this crap. I remember the 54 411 and even rhodes brand is getting hard to come by. Man I can function at work with the old brands, these new ones make my withdrawals even worse. Thinking about just going back to my old ways.

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Re: Chris (# 45)

Sun pharma are the worst they come from India and was shut down in 2015... for mold, water leaks, rodents where they make the medicine. I’ve switched to the generic films because every pharmacy was getting the sun pharma crap

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Re: PRawdog (# 37)

No 54411 is not suboxone , it is subutex made by the best manufacturer imo

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They suck not good didn’t work for me or anyone I know o don’t know why they make a goo medicine then Decide to take it off the market and replace it with this junk sun pharm I used to onl have to take one a day of the 54/411 know I catch myself taking 3 to 6 a day I hate sun pharm wish they bring back 54/411

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Re: CrazyDiamond (# 3)

Me to they feel like your not even talking anything but a vitamin

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Re: riggsk0915 (# 5)

My pharmacist says they have only three bottles in their warehouse in giant eagle North East Ohio. The day I go to fill I said simply if u only have some fill me a partial script because I'm in need of meds. Of course the tech got upset, "well if we do that it cancels your whole remaining script! I said please hold while YOU connect me to the pharmacist. Mags the pill dispenser says two today and the rest tomorrow, cool by me. Today I received our 460 weird looking round solid tabs. They taste like tex with a little sand dirt and earth mixed in and dissolve like a gobstopper. Pro side though, quite potent.

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I believe Westward bought into Roxanne pharmaceutical and most of their high demand products. The buprenorphine hcl 8 mg tablet described with numbers 460 are made by Sun pharmaceuticals, so they were most likely the cheapest at the time the pharmacy bought its bulk supply. They usually go with the cheapest if it is a big name pharmacy and the owners and financial advisers are the ones who make the decision of what to buy, which is good for business but not good for the consumer. Mom and pop pharmacies are scarce but seem to have better service and will keep the brand that the customer prefers, not the brand that puts more money into big pharma's pocket.

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You guys say they don't work as good and people in my area say they work better...i myself thought they worked much better than the 411...the nausea is proof that the same amount of this is stronger than the 411...i used to get nauseous on the 411s until they dropped me to a lower dose

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Babykates Yes this tiny ones are garbage. If a pharmacy tries to give you those, don't accept them.

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